# If the SDMB hates a movie, I love it **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 15, 2008, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-sdmb-hates-a-movie-i-love-it/449402 "2008-05-15T07:29:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2008, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-sdmb-hates-a-movie-i-love-it/449402/1 "2008-05-15T07:29:22Z")
I’ve been reading a lot of movie related threads lately and a lot of Dopers seem to really be ragging on some of my favorite movies. A lot. And it’s really come to my attention that I might have the anti-Dope taste in movies. One of my all-time favorites is **Independence Day**. I think it’s one of the greatest blockbusters ever. No fooling. I am also quite fond of **Starship Troopers** , **The Day After Tomorrow** and **Alien Versus Predator**. And I enjoyed **Signs** , but it’s nowhere as good as the four I just listed. If anyone’s interested, I can keep going. So does anyone else feel like their taste in movies runs counter to the rest of the board? ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2008, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-sdmb-hates-a-movie-i-love-it/449402/2 "2008-05-15T07:32:10Z")
Where do you stand on: -The Core -The Matrix Trilogy ? ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2008, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-sdmb-hates-a-movie-i-love-it/449402/3 "2008-05-15T07:37:57Z")
[QUOTE=Mangetout] Where do you stand on: -The Core -The Matrix Trilogy [/QUOTE] I haven’t seen **The Core** yet, but the complete hate it earns around these parts has intrigued me. As for The Matrix trilogy… The first was amazing. I don’t think I’ve ever exited a theater so jazzed about a movie that I really just saw on a whim. The trailer was pretty cool and one of my friends really wanted to see it, so we went. I was (and still am) enthralled. But I was sorely disappointed in both **Reloaded** and **Revolutions**. They had a few nifty fights. But the story was weak and I think the whole thing died when The Architect went on for what felt like forever at the end of 2. The third was just the death spasms of a once in a lifetime original. ---
**Author:** ![DMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DMark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMark)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2008, 8:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-sdmb-hates-a-movie-i-love-it/449402/4 "2008-05-15T08:56:17Z")
I get the fact that there is often a snob factor when films are mentioned on the SDMB, but for the most part, I find comments here pretty fair. Often I will say a film is a “popcorn film” and worth watching, even though it is hardly Oscar worthy. Iron Man was damned good - as a popcorn film - better than the average super-hero flick, but not exactly Gone With The Wind. Same with television shows - I Love Lucy, Seinfeld, Friends, Sex And The City are pretty much ragged on all the time. I think when people see a film title (or in my example, television title) they are often inclined to join in the thread to say how much they hate it. Nothing wrong with that - each to their own - but don’t take it as a consensus. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2008, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-sdmb-hates-a-movie-i-love-it/449402/5 "2008-05-15T12:39:24Z")
OK, how about the Star Wars prequels? Nothing gets the SDMB blood boiling more than a mention of those three movies. For me, I liked them. Not perfect, but not a waste of a couple hours either. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2008, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-sdmb-hates-a-movie-i-love-it/449402/6 "2008-05-15T12:41:31Z")
Does the OP love _Showgirls_? ---
**Author:** ![well\_he\_s\_back](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/3ab097/32.png) [@well\_he\_s\_back](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/well_he_s_back)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2008, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-sdmb-hates-a-movie-i-love-it/449402/7 "2008-05-15T14:01:51Z")
I think there is a wide variety of opinion here & the film discussions are interesting. To wit - I’ve read many posts both pro & con the Star Wars prequels; both for & against the LOTR movies. Some things seem to generate more heated posts (Showgirls) but I find that to be part of the fun. Some Dopers I tend to agree with, others not, obviously. Some posts can turn me off to a movie completely (the more I read about “There will be Blood” the more I was sure I didn’t want to see it.) Some posters do come on strong in their opinions, but I find it’s still an interesting discussion. Compare say to the “writers” on the IMDB for ex. (!) ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2008, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-sdmb-hates-a-movie-i-love-it/449402/8 "2008-05-15T14:09:33Z")
[QUOTE=dalej42] OK, how about the Star Wars prequels? Nothing gets the SDMB blood boiling more than a mention of those three movies. [/QUOTE] **Episode I** was good, but clearly not up to snuff when compared to the original trilogy. **Episodes II and III** were both awesome. Not perfect, but still really freakin’ awesome. [QUOTE=Jackmannii] Does the OP love _Showgirls_? [/QUOTE] I’ve never actually watched **Showgirls** without employing liberal use of the Fast Forward button. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2008, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-sdmb-hates-a-movie-i-love-it/449402/9 "2008-05-15T14:20:13Z")
Basically it sounds like you want to be entertained and don’t get hung up on geeky details, which - for better and worse - is not the case for many people here. I didn’t like Independence Day, but it’s not THAT bad, and as a non-computer person I don’t care about the implausibility of the computer virus thing, for example. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2008, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-sdmb-hates-a-movie-i-love-it/449402/10 "2008-05-15T14:23:56Z")
[QUOTE=well he’s back] Some posters do come on strong in their opinions, but I find it’s still an interesting discussion. Compare say to the “writers” on the IMDB for ex. (!) [/QUOTE] Heh, yes. It’s amazing how many movies are ‘the worst movie ever made’. It’s even more amazing how some posters there seem to consider a whole string of movies each to be the ‘worst movie ever made’ - all at the same time. ---
**Author:** ![WarmNPrickly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d78d45/32.png) [@WarmNPrickly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WarmNPrickly)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2008, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-sdmb-hates-a-movie-i-love-it/449402/11 "2008-05-15T14:33:16Z")
I too loved **Starship Troopers**. Never read the book, don’t care. Also, I loved all of the **Star Wars** prequels. Sure there were things I didn’t like, but I don’t see the need for the pile on hatred. I thought the **Revenge of the Sith** was wonderful. It was especially good because my parents told me how Vader came to be 20 some years ago and they were right. Also **Lord of the Rings** movies were nearly as good as they could be, although they could’ve made six movies with all of that material. On the other hand. **The Matrix** was not a trilogy, there was only one movie and that’s where the story ends. Anyone who suggests there were other movies is a liar. **The Core** , **Independents Day** , and **The Day After Tomorrow** were awful. I generally like cheesy bad Sci Fi, but they weren’t even up to that level. A lot of people don’t realize this but **Armageddon** was a comedy. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2008, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-sdmb-hates-a-movie-i-love-it/449402/12 "2008-05-15T14:48:48Z")
[QUOTE=WarmNPrickly] It was especially good because my parents told me how Vader came to be 20 some years ago and they were right. [/QUOTE] They probably got it from one of the Star Wars books, which would explain it. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2008, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-sdmb-hates-a-movie-i-love-it/449402/13 "2008-05-15T15:16:22Z")
First the ones you mentioned **Justin\_Bailey**. **Independence Day**. I really enjoyed it, it was funny exciting and paid homage to many other classic Sci-Fi movies. **Starship Troopers** : I love the book, Heinlein is my second favorite author. The movie is little like the book and yet I enjoyed it despite all the bad acting. It was a campy piece of fun. **The Day After Tomorrow** , **Signs** and **Alien Versus Predator** : I did not see these. I noticed most SDMB posters liked **300** , I thought it was putrid crap and was surprised by how many liked it. \*\*Matrix \*\* was mentioned, crap, crap that my wife and I were laughing at it was so bad, but not in a fun campy way. **Star Wars** , I am not even a fan of the original three but I did enjoy **Empire Strikes Back**. The newer three were putrid and Natalie Portman is overrated as both an actress and as a beauty. She is pretty, but many of the fan-boys worship her as a goddess. I don’t really get it. I think Carrie Fisher was more attractive in her day, especially in **Blues Brothers**. \*\*Lord of the Rings \*\* movies are very odd for me; I recognize they are great movies, had some good acting in them and are the best fantasy films ever made. On the other side, I am such a complete Tolkien Geek that nearly every change drove be batshit insane. **Armageddon** , I enjoyed it despite some bad acting, a bad plot and much silliness. It also had Steve Buscemi who just seems to be good in everything he does. Speaking of which, he made **Con Air** enjoyable to watch. **Showgirls** was not that bad, a silly dumb movie, but Gina looked great at least. **I Love Lucy** : I still love it and I appreciate it was the one that inspired the rest. Way better than the Father Knows Best clones of the day. \*\* Seinfeld\*\* Your nuts, the SDMB loves this show, I liked it for about 4-5 seasons, but it wore out for me. It just won the sitcom competition in the Game Room. **Friends** Guilty as charged, this shows stinks. I never found it funny or cute or watchable. **Sex And The City** Not a show I really liked, but my wife loved it. Jim ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2008, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-sdmb-hates-a-movie-i-love-it/449402/14 "2008-05-15T16:11:33Z")
Well, I’m kinda easy when it comes to SF, so I often disagree with the SDMB fanboy groupthink (don’t tell me there isn’t one, it’s frickin’ obvious there is). I liked the first three Star Wars movies. A LOT. I liked all three of the Matrix movies, though II and III were not nearly as good as I. I liked Independence Day and Alien vs. Predator. Hell, I like a lot of the SciFi Channel’s frickin’ Saturday Night original movies (though I often like them strictly as B movie, I have no illusions that they’re anything but ripe cheese … but I like ripe cheese!) ---
**Author:** ![Pollux\_Oil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/858c86/32.png) [@Pollux\_Oil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pollux_Oil)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2008, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-sdmb-hates-a-movie-i-love-it/449402/15 "2008-05-15T16:30:33Z")
I’m right with you on **Indepedence Day**. I love it, I think it’s one of my top 5 greatest movies ever. Of course, I’m also a big fan of the 90s action flicks such as **The Rock** , **Air Force One** , **Speed** , and lesser ones like **Face/Off** and **Hard Rain**. I’ve noticed that I have a wide range of liking movies. I tend to be easily entertained (which I don’t think is a bad thing at all) and only really, REALLY crappy movies turn me off. [QUOTE=Justin\_Bailey] I haven’t seen **The Core** yet, but the complete hate it earns around these parts has intrigued me. [/QUOTE] Speaking of really really crappy movies…from a guy who likes most all movies, don’t bother with this one. My friend spent 30 minutes giving me an entertaining summary of the movie one day during class. That summary was a better investment of my time than the actual hour-and-a-half movie, which I only watched because I was on a plane to England and there wasn’t anything else to do. ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2008, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-sdmb-hates-a-movie-i-love-it/449402/16 "2008-05-15T16:31:35Z")
I love, seriously love - as in, think it’s one of the top 25, maybe top 10, movies of all time - _A.I_. I really liked _The Village_. Those two together are enough to keep me out of the SDMB Movie Clubhouse. ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2008, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-sdmb-hates-a-movie-i-love-it/449402/17 "2008-05-15T17:11:51Z")
[QUOTE=Justin\_Bailey] I’ve been reading a lot of movie related threads lately and a lot of Dopers seem to really be ragging on some of my favorite movies. A lot. And it’s really come to my attention that I might have the anti-Dope taste in movies. So does anyone else feel like their taste in movies runs counter to the rest of the board? [/QUOTE] For the ones you mentioned, I absolutely love _Starship Troopers_. I like it better than the book, and I’m a Heinlein fan. _Independence Day_ - I liked when it came out, but I was only maybe 15 or 16. I kinda doubt I would like it today. _AvP_ I thought was ok. Hated _Signs_ and _The Day After Tomorrow_. As for me, the movie I adore - really hold near and dear to my heart - that is most maligned here, is **Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom**. I honestly grew up thinking it was the most beloved Indy movie until I mentioned it here once and got barbecued into next week. All that said, I’ve gained enough life experience by now to understand that the consensus at the SDMB is generally not the consensus in real life, so don’t feel bad about it, Justin\_Bailey. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2008, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-sdmb-hates-a-movie-i-love-it/449402/18 "2008-05-15T21:12:45Z")
[QUOTE=Cisco] As for me, the movie I adore - really hold near and dear to my heart - that is most maligned here, is **Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom**. I honestly grew up thinking it was the most beloved Indy movie until I mentioned it here once and got barbecued into next week. [/QUOTE] I’ll join you. I don’t think it’s better than _Raiders_ but it’s twice the movie that _Last Crusade_ is. ---
**Author:** ![bubastis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d07c76/32.png) [@bubastis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bubastis)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2008, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-sdmb-hates-a-movie-i-love-it/449402/19 "2008-05-15T21:56:18Z")
How do you feel about later seasons of the Simpsons? ---
**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2008, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-sdmb-hates-a-movie-i-love-it/449402/20 "2008-05-15T22:01:19Z")
I used to (and often still do) feel the same way about Roger Ebert’s reviews: if he loved a movie, I pretty much knew that I would hate it. It didn’t work the other way 'round, though, he could hate a movie and I could hate it. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-sdmb-hates-a-movie-i-love-it/449402.md?page=2)