it would have fallen over, it would have started a world wide nuclear war. apes would take over the planet. ect ect ect
Yeah, but the movie ending wouldn’t be so dramatic …
Coming up on the remains of the Twin Towers wouldn’t have the same effect on Charlton Heston …
Tsubaki made a good observation. While it took a bit for realistic casualty figures to surface, Tony Blair nevertheless made the point shortly after the attack that, although it occurred on U.S. soil, the Brits’ casualty count was the highest for any single act of terrorism directed against them.
It was the World Trade Center, and the casualties, spanning the globe in origin, were not strictly American targets. They were the 7th century’s 21st century targets.
These guys are gonna lose. By the end of the century, for sure. I think we can smoke 'em in 10-20 years, probably. And then we get to watch what will be an amazing phenomenon as a society travels through 13 or 14 centuries of development in a very short time.
We’ve seen similar before - Commodore Perry arrived in the near-totally isolated and cryogenically preserved 14th or 15th century Japan in 1853 and a mere four decades later the Japanese landed a knock-out punch on one of the (admittedly, the least) majorily developed “Western” powers.
Well, to try and address the OP, I just don’t think taking down a purely American icon was ever the sole object of the (now) running dogs’ plans. They want to crap on time and never grow up. I can only hope that they don’t thoroughly defile Islam before their time runs out.
Re the Statue: I agree that it would have felt “stranger” somehow for the Statue of Liberty to be destroyed, perhaps because of its more purely symbolic nature, and more universal character (in contrast with the WTC which, untill 9/11, was to most Americans pretty closely identified with NYC). However, I also have little doubt that the Statue would have been rebuilt quickly and faithfully, probably using much of the original materials.
Regarding the attacks of 9/11 as attacks on symbols:
The Boston Univerity Center for Millennial Studies (website www.mille.org ) is a scholarly group which studies “apocalyptic” movements of all types, from the classically religious to modern “new age spiritual” and more-or-less secular politically and racially-focused ones.
“Islamism” (distinct from Islam as a religion) is very definitely a millennial movement. As such, symbols are its life blood. For all of the talk about the attack on the WTC as a strike against Western values/capitalism/the US economy, etc., I am convinced that all of those were secondary factors to the fanatic Islamists at the center of the event. This article: http://www.mille.org/scholarship/papers/ADAM.html delves into the symbols and folklore at the core of Islamist millennialism. Those of you who’ve encountered the Christian equivalent via Hal Lindsey books, or the “Left Behind” series, or Jack Chick tracts, or whatever, will find that the Islamists are no slackers when it comes to feverish apocalyptic myth. Of particular interest in the above article is the reference to “Iram of the Columns” (appropriated, amusingly enough, by H.P. Lovecraft as “Irem” for use in his History of the Necronomicon and other works), and its Babylon-like signficance to the True Believers.
I think that, at some level, 9/11 came down to a belief that New York is Iram/Babylon, and the WTC was “the Columns”.
I didn’t say it’d be good idea, nor that I wouldn’t feel really bad about after the hangover wore off.
Just the fact that I simply don’t feel any pity or sadness for what goes on outside the USA, now, I guess. Yawn another atrocity. Boo Hoo another million starving. I just don’t care much. Too much pain can do that.
Didn’t get it all out…
Some days I feel like waking up and find myself almost hoping India and Pakistan had blown each other away and maybe Iraq versus Isreal and even France (laughably) attacking Germany. AFter all, whats a little mroe red on the ground nowadays?
Too much pain??
Get a grip. You can sit there a say that the deaths of millions wouldn’t bother you one bit because of the pain you went through on Sept. 11th. Did somebody you love die in the WTC?
If not and you are serious you are either a drama queen, in need of help or a troll.
Uh, while smiling bandit may not be expressing himself well, what he described is a perfectly legitimate phenomenon referred to as “Compassion Fatigue.” It can be a serious problem among rescue and health care workers, or among caregivers for the sick and elderly. But everyday folks can suffer from it, too; it was touted quite a bit in the media around the time of the atrocities in Rwanda. I know exactly where he’s coming from.