# If the US were to wage war against Canada and Mexico, what would the world do? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [March 12, 2022, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-us-were-to-wage-war-against-canada-and-mexico-what-would-the-world-do/960933 "2022-03-12T05:20:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2022, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-us-were-to-wage-war-against-canada-and-mexico-what-would-the-world-do/960933/21 "2022-03-12T17:13:02Z")
Honestly, I wouldn’t venture into the Sierra Madre even with the US Army at my back. This is the scariest book I’ve read since Hunter Thompson’s _Hell’s Angels_… > **[Amazon.com: God's Middle Finger: Into the Lawless Heart of the Sierra Madre...](https://www.amazon.com/Gods-Middle-Finger-Lawless-Sierra-ebook/dp/B0016P7SH6)** > > Buy God's Middle Finger: Into the Lawless Heart of the Sierra Madre: Read Kindle Store Reviews - Amazon.com ---
**Author:** ![Asuka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@Asuka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asuka)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2022, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-us-were-to-wage-war-against-canada-and-mexico-what-would-the-world-do/960933/22 "2022-03-12T20:22:59Z")
I’ve literally found ANOTHER book recently where North Korea invades the US by sending 40,000 “tourists” into Canada with the justification “There’s no border security so we can all infiltrate en-masse and they won’t realize it until we attack” ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2022, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-us-were-to-wage-war-against-canada-and-mexico-what-would-the-world-do/960933/23 "2022-03-12T21:51:58Z")
> [@Asuka](#): > > …by sending 40,000 “tourists” into Canada with the justification “There’s no border security… TIL that _Canada_ has no border security, either. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2022, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-us-were-to-wage-war-against-canada-and-mexico-what-would-the-world-do/960933/24 "2022-03-13T16:07:07Z")
I have read invading armies can become bogged down due to mud and winter. Canada has those. Sure it is a nice country - _in the summertime_… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2022, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-us-were-to-wage-war-against-canada-and-mexico-what-would-the-world-do/960933/25 "2022-03-13T16:18:07Z")
> [@Dr\_Paprika](#): > > I have read invading armies can become bogged down due to mud and winter. Canada has those. Unfortunately, we also have decent quality major highways that literally link us directly to the major invasion routes the Americans will be using. We’ve got a few bridges we could bomb in Ontario, but the country west of us is wide open. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2022, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-us-were-to-wage-war-against-canada-and-mexico-what-would-the-world-do/960933/26 "2022-03-13T16:25:57Z")
Invading Canada just sounds like so much work. Can’t we just buy up all the Tim Hortons and shutter them for a week or two until the Canadians cry “oncle”? ---
**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2022, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-us-were-to-wage-war-against-canada-and-mexico-what-would-the-world-do/960933/27 "2022-03-13T16:32:05Z")
Or convert them all to Dunkin Donuts and make them submit! ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2022, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-us-were-to-wage-war-against-canada-and-mexico-what-would-the-world-do/960933/28 "2022-03-13T16:33:18Z")
Hey, hey, hey! I never said anything about war crimes. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2022, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-us-were-to-wage-war-against-canada-and-mexico-what-would-the-world-do/960933/29 "2022-03-13T16:38:20Z")
> [@Si\_Amigo](#): > > Or convert them all to Dunkin Donuts and make them submit! > [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > Hey, hey, hey! I never said anything about war crimes. Could be worse, DD is only cruel, Starbucks would be the War Crime. ---
**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2022, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-us-were-to-wage-war-against-canada-and-mexico-what-would-the-world-do/960933/30 "2022-03-13T16:43:54Z")
Desperate times call for desperate measures. Our troops will be up agaisnt a polite people who will fight back with kindness, Canadian beer, French Canadian girls and lumberjack hunks. We are doomed to fail under those types of conditions. We’d have better luck with fighting the Narcos holed up in the Sierra Madres. At least that is a type of war we know, Afganistan in the jungle. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2022, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-us-were-to-wage-war-against-canada-and-mexico-what-would-the-world-do/960933/31 "2022-03-13T16:45:21Z")
> [@Si\_Amigo](#): > > We’d have better luck with fighting the Narcos holed up in the Sierra Madres. Would we need badges for that? ---
**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2022, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-us-were-to-wage-war-against-canada-and-mexico-what-would-the-world-do/960933/32 "2022-03-13T16:48:19Z")
We neither want nor need no stinking badges! 😑😝 ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2022, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-us-were-to-wage-war-against-canada-and-mexico-what-would-the-world-do/960933/33 "2022-03-13T20:45:30Z")
An invasion might increase the American share of companies in Canada from the high current level to a slightly higher one. How long would it take to notice if someone installed a puppet government? And the invaders would slip up. They would suggest getting rid of interprovincial tariffs, an effective senate or having a powerful central government. And the provinces would not stand for this. Nor would Poilievre. Who would even be PM then? Will our military be stronger than now? > **[Why is Pierre Poilievre so angry? - Macleans.ca](https://www.macleans.ca/longforms/why-is-pierre-poilievre-so-angry/)** > > He’s smart, savvy and he’s steering a new brand of Canadian conservatism. How Pierre Poilievre became the champion of the anti-Trudeau mob. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2022, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-us-were-to-wage-war-against-canada-and-mexico-what-would-the-world-do/960933/34 "2022-03-13T20:57:59Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > This is just silly. The only reason the narcos keep their power is because law enforcement is corrupt. And fear. Cops are bought off, and good cops and civilians are afraid of having their heads on pikes. This hypothetical US invasion would wipe them out in a day. Yep. We could invade Mexico to destroy the cartels and stop the corruption and drug trafficking… and with that stated goal, maybe get away with it. Say a President of Mexico asks that we do it? That is a real maybe. Afterwards we keep Baja. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2022, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-us-were-to-wage-war-against-canada-and-mexico-what-would-the-world-do/960933/35 "2022-03-13T21:22:28Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Afterwards we keep Baja. Rocky Point. Spring break destination of choice for AZ. Nice town, too. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2022, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-us-were-to-wage-war-against-canada-and-mexico-what-would-the-world-do/960933/36 "2022-03-13T23:30:48Z")
> [@Si\_Amigo](#): > > Desperate times call for desperate measures. Our troops will be up agaisnt a polite people who will fight back with kindness, Canadian beer, French Canadian girls and lumberjack hunks. We are doomed to fail under those types of conditions. Also poutine. Our troops will be dropping like flies from clogged arteries. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2022, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-us-were-to-wage-war-against-canada-and-mexico-what-would-the-world-do/960933/37 "2022-03-14T04:04:37Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > Unfortunately, we also have decent quality major highways that literally link us directly to the major invasion routes the Americans will be using. > > We’ve got a few bridges we could bomb in Ontario, but the country west of us is wide open. Just conscript all your truckers into service. They’ll take care of securing the roads and bridges. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2022, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-us-were-to-wage-war-against-canada-and-mexico-what-would-the-world-do/960933/38 "2022-03-14T04:16:52Z")
> [@Pardel-Lux](#): > > . . . give Manhattan back to the Netherlands . . . Give Manhattan back to _WHO??_ ( **Cecil** (remember Cecil?) discusses, July 31, 1992:) > **[How much would the $24 paid for Manhattan be worth in today’s money?](https://www.straightdope.com/21341886/how-much-would-the-24-paid-for-manhattan-be-worth-in-today-s-money)** Note the claim that, not only did Peter Minuit buy Manhattan from the Canarsie tribe, seemingly for a pittance, but furthermore, the Canarsie didn’t actually live on that island, and perhaps had no ownership claim to it in the first place. It may not have been theirs to sell! ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2022, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-us-were-to-wage-war-against-canada-and-mexico-what-would-the-world-do/960933/39 "2022-03-14T10:48:11Z")
Funny **Cecil** would mention Donald Trump disparagingly in 1992. But you make a fair point. I forgot to mention the Russians liberating Alaska from oppression. I believe they will call it Eastern Ucrania. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-us-were-to-wage-war-against-canada-and-mexico-what-would-the-world-do/960933.md?page=1)