# If there is something as a foreigner living in the US has thought me, is that... **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [February 23, 2018, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-there-is-something-as-a-foreigner-living-in-the-us-has-thought-me-is-that/809398 "2018-02-23T06:25:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Luciano700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Luciano700](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luciano700)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-there-is-something-as-a-foreigner-living-in-the-us-has-thought-me-is-that/809398/1 "2018-02-23T06:25:06Z")
Our worthiness comes based on who we are, not on how we act or contribute to society. I am sure the US isn’t the only culture with this standard, but especially here. Why is this? Why do our characteristics and qualities rather than our attitudes matter more? Why? Is it just that easy to judge people by their cover? ---
**Author:** ![Luciano700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Luciano700](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luciano700)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-there-is-something-as-a-foreigner-living-in-the-us-has-thought-me-is-that/809398/2 "2018-02-23T06:31:40Z")
And I can only see this not changing at all. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-there-is-something-as-a-foreigner-living-in-the-us-has-thought-me-is-that/809398/3 "2018-02-23T11:03:02Z")
But is the cover in tatters? Because if so, it’s the words _inside_ the book that matters and NOT the binding that holds the pages together. ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-there-is-something-as-a-foreigner-living-in-the-us-has-thought-me-is-that/809398/4 "2018-02-23T12:28:00Z")
Attitudes and intentions are invisible. I judge on speech and actions, which includes how you present yourself. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-there-is-something-as-a-foreigner-living-in-the-us-has-thought-me-is-that/809398/5 "2018-02-23T12:37:35Z")
[Deeds, not words.](http://www.azquotes.com/quotes/topics/deeds-not-words.html) ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-there-is-something-as-a-foreigner-living-in-the-us-has-thought-me-is-that/809398/6 "2018-02-23T12:45:10Z")
For most people the cover is better than the book. They don’t want to change the system. If anything, this is less of a thing in the US than elsewhere. ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-there-is-something-as-a-foreigner-living-in-the-us-has-thought-me-is-that/809398/7 "2018-02-23T15:58:40Z")
> [@Luciano700](#): > > Our worthiness comes based on who we are, not on how we act or contribute to society. Everyone, EVERYONE, has to overcome negative stereotypes applied to them. That’s just life, and it’s not exclusive to the US. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-there-is-something-as-a-foreigner-living-in-the-us-has-thought-me-is-that/809398/8 "2018-02-23T16:31:32Z")
> [@Luciano700](#): > > Our worthiness comes based on who we are, not on how we act or contribute to society. ORLY? What have you contributed to your community (SDMB, for example), lately? > [@Luciano700](#): > > I am sure the US isn’t the only culture with this standard, but especially here. Why is this? Why do our characteristics and qualities rather than our attitudes matter more? Why? Is it just that easy to judge people by their cover? Because your quality of character says more about who you are than your (masculine?) cover/attitude. Also, words/language has meaning. People are judged based on their ability to express ideas and values. Those who endeavor to improve their ability to communicate tend to be taken more seriously than those who do not. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-there-is-something-as-a-foreigner-living-in-the-us-has-thought-me-is-that/809398/9 "2018-02-23T19:07:48Z")
nm ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-there-is-something-as-a-foreigner-living-in-the-us-has-thought-me-is-that/809398/10 "2018-02-23T19:14:16Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > nm Me too, man, me too! nm! ---
**Author:** ![Delicious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@Delicious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Delicious)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-there-is-something-as-a-foreigner-living-in-the-us-has-thought-me-is-that/809398/11 "2018-02-23T21:47:44Z")
In my culture we judge people by their alignment, I like true neutrals best ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-there-is-something-as-a-foreigner-living-in-the-us-has-thought-me-is-that/809398/12 "2018-02-23T22:16:32Z")
Thought me? Weird. I wish we had TAUGHT you to spell. ---
**Author:** ![Luciano700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Luciano700](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luciano700)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-there-is-something-as-a-foreigner-living-in-the-us-has-thought-me-is-that/809398/13 "2018-02-23T22:27:38Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > Thought me? Weird. > I wish we had TAUGHT you to spell. I know is " taught", is just a habit of using the incorrect word. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-there-is-something-as-a-foreigner-living-in-the-us-has-thought-me-is-that/809398/14 "2018-02-23T22:36:26Z")
What is your policy on the capture of moose and/or squirrel? ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-there-is-something-as-a-foreigner-living-in-the-us-has-thought-me-is-that/809398/15 "2018-02-23T22:41:00Z")
> [@Luciano700](#): > > I know is " taught", is just a habit of using the incorrect word. Dude, Where are your ‘Its’? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-there-is-something-as-a-foreigner-living-in-the-us-has-thought-me-is-that/809398/16 "2018-02-23T22:45:27Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > Dude, Where are your ‘Its’? Right under his 'hirt. ---
**Author:** ![MikeG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikeg/32/4329_2.png) [@MikeG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeG)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-there-is-something-as-a-foreigner-living-in-the-us-has-thought-me-is-that/809398/17 "2018-02-23T22:49:07Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > Dude, Where are your ‘Its’? Tell you what, let’s see you respond in real time in his native tongue and see who is more intelligible. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-there-is-something-as-a-foreigner-living-in-the-us-has-thought-me-is-that/809398/18 "2018-02-23T22:56:42Z")
If there are no its, he must’a quit. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-there-is-something-as-a-foreigner-living-in-the-us-has-thought-me-is-that/809398/19 "2018-02-23T23:51:55Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > Dude, Where are your ‘Its’? Do you now understand why we were riding you when you joined? It’s like an itch. Thank you for adapting. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2018, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-there-is-something-as-a-foreigner-living-in-the-us-has-thought-me-is-that/809398/20 "2018-02-24T04:03:21Z")
Ain’t that the truth. Resistance is futile. MikeG. If I knew his native tongue I could have an opinion on that statement. Spanish? I might be able to hang. Russian? Nope. Have you looked at some of his other threads? It seems he is perfectly capable of spelling and making sentences that make sense. If (a big If) they are his words and sentences. I have no way of knowing this truth until he shows his true colors. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-there-is-something-as-a-foreigner-living-in-the-us-has-thought-me-is-that/809398.md?page=2)