# If there really any point to mass shooting threads in MPSIMS anymore? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 10, 2023, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-there-really-any-point-to-mass-shooting-threads-in-mpsims-anymore/982460 "2023-04-10T15:46:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2023, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-there-really-any-point-to-mass-shooting-threads-in-mpsims-anymore/982460/41 "2023-05-09T12:27:47Z")
I don’t know. Shooting does seem the norm, if not the normal thing to do. Kids have got to.learn to exist in the world we have, not the one we wish we had. And shooting drills are not the only place where disgruntled youth learn about the option of gun violence. That lesson is being taught everywhere. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2023, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-there-really-any-point-to-mass-shooting-threads-in-mpsims-anymore/982460/42 "2023-05-09T12:43:05Z")
> [@Biotop](#): > > I guess I feel a sense of family and shared experience reading these threads, but the deep despair I feel that nothing will change is overwhelming. I I understand how you feel and what you’re saying, but we can’t surrender to apathy because that will only hasten the desensitization process that humans experience when they are exposed to something over and over again in spite of the fact that the “something” is truly horrible. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2023, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-there-really-any-point-to-mass-shooting-threads-in-mpsims-anymore/982460/43 "2023-05-09T16:33:12Z")
We can’t surrender to apathy, but we also can’t let external news events drive us as individuals into a pit of depression & despair. If a person (any person) finds themselves obsessing about other peoples’ misfortunes to the point that their own life is being ruined, well perhaps they should just ignore all those other people and problems while they work on fixing their own life so external events that are not really any of their business don’t overwhelm them so. They will be happier after making this change to themselves and the world will be largely unaffected by them tuning out meantime. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2023, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-there-really-any-point-to-mass-shooting-threads-in-mpsims-anymore/982460/44 "2023-05-09T16:49:32Z")
> [@Biotop](#): > > Shooting does seem the norm It is definitely not the norm. Nearly every school will never see a mass shooting there. I’m not defending our system, but terrorizing kids for this extremely remote possibility seems terrible. At one point, my local school was talking about putting in metal detectors and armed guards, and so on. I suggested teaching healthy eating and defensive driving and you’ll save many more lives. Or, add a class about depression and how to spot it and treat it – there’s a suicide every couple of years, but zero shootings. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2023, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-there-really-any-point-to-mass-shooting-threads-in-mpsims-anymore/982460/45 "2023-05-09T17:01:51Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > It is definitely not the norm. Nearly every school will never see a mass shooting there. I’m not defending our system, but terrorizing kids for this extremely remote possibility seems terrible. Nearly every school won’t see a fire or tornado, but we do drills for them. Of course, there’s a different level of terror involved when it is accident or nature vs a human who has made the deliberate decision to try to kill you. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2023, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-there-really-any-point-to-mass-shooting-threads-in-mpsims-anymore/982460/46 "2023-05-09T17:26:59Z")
> [@DWMarch](#): > > But just as they are about to head out to the mall/school/club/festival/etc they have a moment where they realize they are not doing so good mental health wise and they decide to proactively seek help. Then what? The problem with your scenario is that you’re applying the mental health care at just about the latest point in the process that is possible. Real “mental health care” would likely involve lesser interventions much earlier in the person’s life, so that they (hopefully) don’t get to the point where they’re seriously considering shooting up a public place. Like, have counselors in schools to spot kids with difficulties when they are still kids, and in workplaces, to help out employees who may be having problems. Also, make it much easier for individuals to ask for and receive treatment for things like depression and other problems. The way things are now, you pretty much _have_ to be in a crisis to get anyone to take your problems seriously. Change that, and you change everything. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2023, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-there-really-any-point-to-mass-shooting-threads-in-mpsims-anymore/982460/47 "2023-05-09T17:53:51Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > The way things are now, you pretty much _have_ to be in a crisis to get anyone to take your problems seriously. Change that, and you change everything. Unless you have money to spend $100’s an hour for sessions. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2023, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-there-really-any-point-to-mass-shooting-threads-in-mpsims-anymore/982460/48 "2023-05-09T18:32:18Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Naw, it will be more like France. I think it’s pretty clearly like the Soviet collapse, we’re in it now. ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2023, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-there-really-any-point-to-mass-shooting-threads-in-mpsims-anymore/982460/49 "2023-05-10T00:00:23Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > Its a country that is riddled with corruption at every level, from school boards to the Supreme Court. It’s a country that demands you “pull yourself up by the bootstraps” then wonders why there are so many living on the streets. Bootstrap shortages? > [@RitterSport](#): > > It is definitely not the norm. Nearly every school will never see a mass shooting there. I’m not defending our system, but terrorizing kids for this extremely remote possibility seems terrible. It’s not the norm that any _one_ school will suffer a mass shooting event every couple of weeks, but it IS the norm that in the US, _some_ school (or church or mall, etc.) will. ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2023, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-there-really-any-point-to-mass-shooting-threads-in-mpsims-anymore/982460/50 "2023-05-10T00:09:16Z")
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