How restricted would his communication with the outside world be?
Well, no Internet or cell phones. Limited in-person visits with his children. Dunno about collect phone calls though. Are those still a thing? Martha Stewart didn’t do any phone interviews IIRC, even though several media outlets would have paid handsomely for that.
That article cuts off several letters and/or short words on the right.
Now, while on the Civil Grand jury we inspected every jail in Santa Clara county. One of the facilities for non-violent minors was indeed- fairly nice- kind of like one of the schools parents would sent their “troubled” kids to. None of the other jails was a “garden spot” in any way shape or form. The food was okay, and they were all clean.
That’s exactly what G. Gordon Liddy did. Getting thrown in the slammer was all it took to make the law-and-order conservative (and ex-FBI agent) into a crybaby critic of prisons, guard, and wardens.
I’ll put it this way: the prison dispensary will not do anything like this.
How much leeway does the warden have in how prisoners are treated? If they happen to be a Trump supporter, what could Trump possibly get away with?
p.s. I’m very aware that JFK was a druggie in his own right, and probably wouldn’t have seen his 50th birthday for this and other reasons.
He pushed for legitimate prison reform that helped others. For example:
This is a reason why Trump, if convicted, should not be spared prison. Any special allowances a VIP prisoner is given will be a precedent that other inmates can seek. I’m generally skeptical of the value of punishment, and very much doubt Trump going to prison will deter. But the Watergate situations with Liddy and Chuck Colson becoming prison reformers showed a possible value.
(Sorry if above link above is behind the paywall — I am out of gift links.)
Get away with?
If not fairly described as a confused old man now, Donald Trump surely will be by the time he may actually see prison walls. Any opportunity prison management may have for better treatment should be taken. If the warden is accused of favoritism, that will help in granting other similarly situated elderly prisoners the same favors.
I think there are humane wardens operating in less than humane prison organizations. Letting Trump get away with something that doesn’t really harm the good order of the prison is good policy regardless of whether the warden is a trump supporter.
As an example, I’ve read that the federal prison email system cuts out every 30 minutes or so. Trump won’t like that. I don’t like the sound of it either. I hope the warden can do something about it, and if it Trump is first to benefit, so be it.
One point to consider: prisons are supposed to provide for inmates’ medical needs, including a health assessment when prisoners go through intake. It may be the first time in at least recent memory that Trump gets assessed objectively for both mental and physical condition. The results won’t be made public, but what’s found will likely affect the conditions of his imprisonment.
On reception all people entering prison (either on remand or after being sentenced) are assessed by healthcare professionals prior to being located within the prison. The health assessment undertaken in reception on entry into prison is for a health professional to explore the person’s health to ensure physical and mental health issues are identified, and to ensure continuity of care (for example, continuity of medication).
Undertaking an assessment at reception is important; this could be the only opportunity for a healthcare professional to engage with each person, as they may not wish to access healthcare during their stay in prison. The health assessment enables long-term conditions, sexual health, vaccinations, substance misuse, mental health and many more health needs to be identified. It also gives the opportunity for patients to be offered health promotion advice. Some people have never been in prison before and/or they may be detoxing from a substance, which could make them more vulnerable.
Bliss. It would be bliss.
Oh… You mean for him?
We wouldn’t have to see him on live TV all the time any more. That would be a good thing.
I’ve never set foot in a prison but I’ve done prison ministry for years and have heard/read that health concerns are blatantly disregarded, to the point where even cancer patients often just have to suck it up and die behind bars untreated. That being said, of course, a VIP inmate like a former POTUS would get the red-carpet medical care.
Prisoners get/have email?
Federal inmates can utilize the TRULINCS computers in their housing units to send and receive emails
If Trump is in prison, he will be spending a lot of time writing screeds to be put on Truth Social or similar. The authorities may reasonably prevent him from posting ugly false statements about prison management, but he still should have freedom to complain about how he is treated.
So that’s what it would be like if he goes to prison. Trump draws attention to himself by attacking Democrats. Just like now except he can’t hold a rally to do it.
Huh. Thanks. Rather ironic that the system is called TRULINCS.
I’d like to see him in a military prison, in a base located in an island nation. A nation hostile to the US and where MAGA people won’t be able to come to his rescue.
He doesn’t deserve house arrest, he deserves to be completely separated from the rest of the world forever. Give him solitary so he can’t spill what few secrets he may have learned from his skimming of classified documents. A plastic bed with a cheap mattress a metal toilet, and a fenced area where he can go outdoors to play like the dog he is.
With federal or New York State incarceration, I think you are correct. But if he’s first convicted in Georgia, maybe not:
Off topic, but our most notorious high securty prson has a public restaurant. You drive through multiple 10m high razor wired fences and obvious checks
and then… there is a restaurant. First time I went there, we got denied access.
There was a party the last night. Prisoners were sweeping up beer bottles and broken champage bottles and glasses. We were denied entry because of the mess.
The second time I went there it was anazing. Cheap, good quality. Nothing amazing, kind of a burger joint. But in a Maximum Security Prison.
But sure as shit, the fridges in the restaurant, though locked, were loaded with booze and there was going to be a party that night.
We were not allowed to tip the staff. Or order the booze.
Pretty unique situation, certainly. Is St. Helena still vacant?
