# If Trump Really Is Hitler... **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [November 18, 2016, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-trump-really-is-hitler/772315 "2016-11-18T07:51:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-trump-really-is-hitler/772315/41 "2016-11-18T16:14:54Z")
Super Hitler Trump\* is already in the process of setting up internment camps. George Takei said so. \*I learned from this board that Bush was Hitler and since Trump is worse he must be Super Hitler. ---
**Author:** ![Omega\_Glory](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7c8e57/32.png) [@Omega\_Glory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omega_Glory)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-trump-really-is-hitler/772315/42 "2016-11-18T16:24:24Z")
> [@jtur88](#): > > Which doesn’t matter. All three were elected leaders of their governing bodies, for which there is no single collective term in English. And they are being compared and contrasted with each other in that respect. Now get on with the discussion. It does matter, since the point is that Hitler’s top adversaries didn’t come from Germany. If Trump is the new Hitler, and the pattern is going to repeat itself, it would be leaders outside the U.S. border who’d lead the charge against him. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-trump-really-is-hitler/772315/43 "2016-11-18T16:26:04Z")
What would FDR and Churchill and the rest have done if Hitler hadn’t invaded any other countries, but just rounded up people and et cetera _domestically?_ ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-trump-really-is-hitler/772315/44 "2016-11-18T16:30:58Z")
The OP dismisses opposition to Trump as a bunch of effeminate aesthetes, but weren’t you conservatives complaining just last month how Black Lives Matter had made cops too scared to do their jobs anymore? And those scary black people were just rioting and destroying things? What about those scary bad hombre Mexicans, sneaking over the border and raping and murdering white women? How are the cops supposed to do their jobs enforcing law and order when the scary minorities won’t let them? ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-trump-really-is-hitler/772315/45 "2016-11-18T16:31:06Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > What would FDR and Churchill and the rest have done if Hitler hadn’t invaded any other countries, but just rounded up people and et cetera _domestically?_ Next to nothing, probably. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-trump-really-is-hitler/772315/46 "2016-11-18T16:37:24Z")
> [@Evan\_Drake](#): > > **YOU** said FDR was head of state in another country to America. > > In your first post. God god, do you really believe he said that? He said FDR was head of state in another country to _Hitler_. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-trump-really-is-hitler/772315/47 "2016-11-18T16:45:05Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > Seriously. The thread is about Donald Trump, who is president-elect of the U.S., the same country Franklin Delano Roosevelt was president of from 1933-1945. > > :rolleyes: \<– All I can say to you in this forum without breaking the rules. Ok once more for the hard of understanding: The OP asks who will stand up to trump the way Churchill and FDR did to Hitler. **Larry Borgia** correctly points out that they were heads of state from other countries _than Hitler_. So by analogy it would be heads of state from other countries _than Trump_. ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-trump-really-is-hitler/772315/48 "2016-11-18T16:54:37Z")
> [@Maastricht](#): > > And you think Germany did NOT have a constitition as good as the American Constitution? Wiki has an article about the [Weimar Constitution](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weimar_Constitution). Look it up. It even guaranteed freedom of religion. But that did not do jack shit for the Jews, did it ? The Weimar Constitution had been in place for only 14 years when Hitler came to power and had been opposed by a vast array of political forces including the Nazis, reactionary monarchists, and Communists which served to severely undermine its legitimacy. By contrast the US Constitution has been in place for 229 years now and virtually all mainstream politicians (imperfectly and somewhat insincerely) praise and respect it. The situations are not even remotely comparable. ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-trump-really-is-hitler/772315/49 "2016-11-18T17:01:48Z")
During the Bush 2 years, Canadian blogger liked to ask liberals, “If Bush is Hitler, why aren’t you a lampshade yet?” In a few years, we may have to dust that line off and ask it about Trump. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-trump-really-is-hitler/772315/50 "2016-11-18T17:09:13Z")
> [@Mijin](#): > > Ok once more for the hard of understanding: > > The OP asks who will stand up to trump the way Churchill and FDR did to Hitler. > > **Larry Borgia** correctly points out that they were heads of state from other countries _than Hitler_. > > So by analogy it would be heads of state from other countries _than Trump_. I don’t think the failure in understanding is mine. Hitler was not head of state in the U.S. Trump will soon be. I’m not even taking this seriously. A more apt comparison to Trump would be Lex Luthor. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-trump-really-is-hitler/772315/51 "2016-11-18T17:17:37Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > I don’t think the failure in understanding is mine. Hitler was not head of state in the U.S. Trump will soon be. > > I’m not even taking this seriously. A more apt comparison to Trump would be Lex Luthor. **Mijin** is exactly right. In the analogy, Germany = the US. Hitler = Trump, so FDR’s equivalent should be from a country that is NOT the US. Churchill, of course, could have an equivalent in the UK (or elsewhere), since the UK was not part of the Hitler/Trump hypothetical. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-trump-really-is-hitler/772315/52 "2016-11-18T17:20:56Z")
> [@Sigene](#): > > There are mobs with small arms all around the world and through history who would like to have a disagreement with you about their effectiveness against modern military powers. The fate of most people who rebel against government is to die. There are actually few examples to the contrary. Successful rebellions are generally not by mobs against functioning governments. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-trump-really-is-hitler/772315/53 "2016-11-18T17:31:16Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > **Mijin** is exactly right. In the analogy, Germany = the US. Hitler = Trump, so FDR’s equivalent should be from a country that is NOT the US. Churchill, of course, could have an equivalent in the UK (or elsewhere), since the UK was not part of the Hitler/Trump hypothetical. As I said, I’m not even taking the comparison to Hitler seriously. ---
**Author:** ![DrCube](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a3d4f5/32.png) [@DrCube](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrCube)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-trump-really-is-hitler/772315/54 "2016-11-18T17:46:28Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > During the Bush 2 years, Canadian blogger liked to ask liberals, “If Bush is Hitler, why aren’t you a lampshade yet?” > > In a few years, we may have to dust that line off and ask it about Trump. Plenty of people _didn’t_ become lampshades in Nazi Germany. And the ones that did, well, they couldn’t very well answer that question, could they? ---
**Author:** ![Omega\_Glory](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7c8e57/32.png) [@Omega\_Glory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omega_Glory)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-trump-really-is-hitler/772315/55 "2016-11-18T18:01:31Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > As I said, I’m not even taking the comparison to Hitler seriously. You don’t have to take it seriously to understand that **Larry Borgia** wasn’t saying that FDR wasn’t the president of the United States. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-trump-really-is-hitler/772315/56 "2016-11-18T18:41:28Z")
> [@Mijin](#): > > Ok once more for the hard of understanding: > > The OP asks who will stand up to trump the way Churchill and FDR did to Hitler. > > **Larry Borgia** correctly points out that they were heads of state from other countries _than Hitler_. > > So by analogy it would be heads of state from other countries _than Trump_. Thank you. I did not think it would be that hard to figure out. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-trump-really-is-hitler/772315/57 "2016-11-18T18:57:50Z")
Trump is Lex Luthor! The signs are all there. Billionaire magnate. Doesn’t like aliens. Wake up, sheeple! ---
**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-trump-really-is-hitler/772315/58 "2016-11-18T19:58:17Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > What would FDR and Churchill and the rest have done if Hitler hadn’t invaded any other countries, but just rounded up people and et cetera _domestically?_ Eddie Izzard covered that in one of his history lessons: > [@](#): > > And he [Hitler] was a mass-murdering fuckhead, as many important historians have said. But there were other mass murderers that got away with it! Stalin killed many millions, died in his bed, well done there; Pol Pot killed 1.7 million Cambodians, died under house arrest at age 72, well done indeed! And the reason we let them get away with it is because they killed their own people, and we’re sort of fine with that. “Ah, help yourself,” you know? “We’ve been trying to kill you for ages!” So kill your own people, right on there. Seems to be… Hitler killed people next door… “Oh… stupid man!” After a couple of years, we won’t stand for that, will we? ---
**Author:** ![usedtobe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ec9cab/32.png) [@usedtobe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/usedtobe)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-trump-really-is-hitler/772315/59 "2016-11-18T20:30:40Z")
> [@Waymore](#): > > If you understand Brexit and Trump as a rejection of globalism, then the lady who is allowing her nation to be inundated by people from a very foreign culture can hardly be called the leader of the free world. if brexit was a rejection of “globalism”, why are the Brexiters want access to that “Single Market”? They have nothing against “globalism” as long as it is a one-way transfer “our stuff out, global money in”. I still am not certain if the folks saying “Brexit means we keep the good stuff and lose the bad stuff” were serious or deliberate sardonic. The Trumpers desire to retreat to Fortress America is horribly conflated with “and then all those jobs we remember from our golden childhoods will return”. Half of those jobs are gone - robots took them. The jobs which remain require a bit more than “put four bolts on the thingy as it passes”. Your Real American (white, male) neighbor is still not going to pay “whatever we want to charge” for a piece of crap car like you made in 1956. They now know that a TV can be had for $150 and that TV comes from Asia, not Chicago. This is simply another case of “Can’t put genie back in bottle”. ---
**Author:** ![TheSeaOtter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ed655f/32.png) [@TheSeaOtter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheSeaOtter)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-trump-really-is-hitler/772315/60 "2016-11-18T20:53:43Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > Trump is Lex Luthor! The signs are all there. Billionaire magnate. Doesn’t like aliens. Wake up, sheeple! Nonsense. Lex Luthor is a _successful_ businessman. And he _actually_ gave money to charity. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-trump-really-is-hitler/772315.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-trump-really-is-hitler/772315.md?page=4)