# If/when Trump and Musk fall out, what will it be over? The results? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump, elon-musk\ **Created:** [February 15, 2025, 9:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346 "2025-02-15T09:08:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/241 "2025-06-05T22:44:27Z")
I think the real questions at this point: - How much damage, in terms of information and organizing against Trump, can Musk do, and - How will the other Republicans react? I mean, I do _not_ think it will happen, but Republicans could smell blood in the water and think, “Now is the time to replace Trump with Vance, we can stop worrying about the tariffs and all the crazy, and we get to keep Elon and his dollars, too!” and they actually go for an impeachment and removal. Most likely, they will renounce Musk and keep Trump, as they fear their mob boss more. _But_ if Musk really can bring the goods and the aforementioned red tint in the ocean turns to crimson, I think all bets are off. Chaos will ensure. I mean, bigger, better chaos. YUGE! ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/242 "2025-06-05T22:47:14Z")
FWIW, I think Trump is the real idiot here. He should have known he was playing with fire with Musk and appeased him no matter what. So much for the ol’ 4D chess! Musk himself is also playing with fire, but he’s so stupid that he’s already burned himself. Now he’s going for broke–but with megabucks at his disposal. Truly anything can happen–a real idiots’ delight! ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/243 "2025-06-05T22:47:26Z")
I consider Trump not a fascist, but more a mainstream dictator. HOWEVER, there are points of comparison. AFAIK, the richest man in Germany, when Hitler took power, was Fritz Thyssen. Like Musk, Thyssen pushed for the dictator to take power. Like Musk, Thyssen supported some of Hitler’s early moves once in power. Like Musk, Thyssen broke with Hitler. Now, for the analogy to complete itself, Musk will flee the country, be caught, and then put in prison. But Musk has tools for evading justice (or injustice) that Thyssen did not: [Musk Private Jet Fleet](https://simpleflying.com/elon-musk-private-jet-fleet-update-2025/) History does not repeat itself exactly. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/244 "2025-06-05T22:53:33Z")
Can’t tell if this was posted upthread: Musk now calling for Trump to be impeached. > **[Musk calls for Trump to be impeached as extraordinary feud escalates](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/05/trump-elon-musk-fallout)** > > Former adviser taunts president over links to Epstein while Trump threatens to cancel contracts for Musk companies ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/245 "2025-06-05T22:57:46Z")
“Mass Deportations Now!” … Trump deports Elon Musk … “No, not like that…” ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/246 "2025-06-05T23:05:19Z")
Anyway, if Musk really wants, he can shut down the pro-MAGA accounts on Twitter. As long as he does not, Trump will have the edge in this battle as it shows that Musk isn’t really committed to this. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/247 "2025-06-05T23:11:30Z")
I’m so happy about this. ---
**Author:** ![Ulfreida](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ulfreida/32/8014_2.png) [@Ulfreida](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulfreida)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/248 "2025-06-05T23:16:59Z")
Yep. I smiling. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/249 "2025-06-05T23:17:47Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > “Mass Deportations Now!” > > … Trump deports Elon Musk … > > “No, not like that…” Please let it happen! I’ve been waiting with bated breath: [“…I have to admit a perverse anticipation of the day Trump and Elon Musk come to loggerheads because those are two narcissist that cannot share a spotlight, and as much as Elon has stumped for Trump up to this point he’s going to find that this won’t actually give him any special privilege when it comes to doing things Trump doesn’t like or care about. I predict an epic meltdown and an attempt at deportation or imprisonment for Musk is in the cards.“](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-rational-look-at-what-trump-will-wont-can-cant-do-in-his-next-term/1009876/50) Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Borborygmi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/borborygmi/32/217_2.png) [@Borborygmi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Borborygmi)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/250 "2025-06-05T23:20:44Z")
Seen elsewhere: “This is like Drake and Kendrick Lamar, but they’re both Drake.” ---
**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/251 "2025-06-05T23:21:58Z")
I’m not well versed in the feud. So this is probably a dumb question. But is it possible the feud is mostly theater? Chomsky claimed that you keep people passive by restricting acceptable thought, and engaging in rigorous debate within those confines. I guess we’ll find out. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/252 "2025-06-05T23:23:04Z")
There’s certainly potential for lots of fantastic, damaging results but we never seem able to bury them once and for all. Still, deportation and confiscation of assets for Elno and impeachment/Article 25 for Teflon Don are the kinds of things my dreams are made of. In Reality Land, I will have to settle for the very obvious MAGA angst we’re seeing. The pols want to keep both Musk’s financial backing and Trump’s political support. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/253 "2025-06-05T23:25:00Z")
I thought it might be theater until Musk brought out Epstein. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/254 "2025-06-05T23:33:48Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > - How much damage, in terms of information and organizing against Trump, can Musk do The Trump cult can absorb whatever Musk throws at him, and shrug it off. I was thinking in terms of fervent Nazis quickly getting over Hitler’s shedding of Ernst Röhm. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/255 "2025-06-05T23:34:15Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > … Trump deports Elon Musk … This would be interesting: > **[Steve Bannon Calls to Deport Musk Amid Messy Trump Breakup](https://www.thedailybeast.com/steve-bannon-calls-to-deport-elon-musk-amid-messy-donald-trump-breakup/)** > > Although the president and Tesla CEO’s bromance exploded today, Steve Bannon picked sides long ago. > Steve Bannon suggested a peculiar solution to the Trump-Musk breakup: Kick the Tesla billionaire out of the country. > > “They should initiate a formal investigation of his immigration status because I am of the strong belief that he is an illegal alien, and he should be deported from the country immediately,” he told The New York Times in a phone interview. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/256 "2025-06-05T23:44:46Z")
Trump’s biggest fans are looking at their brand new cybertrucks with a dawning horror, realizing they now _must_ make a video of themselves destroying it… while still making payments on it. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/257 "2025-06-05T23:58:14Z")
So now Musk has alienated _both_ Trump haters _and_ Trump fans. Now the only ones who will buy Tesla vehicles are those neutral on the president. ---
**Author:** ![Ulfreida](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ulfreida/32/8014_2.png) [@Ulfreida](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulfreida)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/258 "2025-06-05T23:59:23Z")
I think there’s three of those … they don’t like their rocks pried up to ask them questions though. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/259 "2025-06-06T00:08:47Z")
My fear is that Trump will be victorious over Musk and emerge appearing even stronger to his cult. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/260 "2025-06-06T00:50:32Z")
Elmo should use TACO. Crossing fingers. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346.md?page=14)