# If/when Trump and Musk fall out, what will it be over? The results? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump, elon-musk\ **Created:** [February 15, 2025, 9:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346 "2025-02-15T09:08:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 21
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2025, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/401 "2025-06-08T15:29:35Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > On Friday, CNN [reported](https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/06/politics/musk-alleged-drug-use-trump), “President Donald Trump has asked aides and advisers if they believe Elon Musk’s behavior over the past 48 hours could be related to his alleged drug use, privately seeking to understand the tech billionaire’s broadsides against him while signaling publicly he doesn’t care, a source familiar with the conversations told CNN.” How’s he doing? Oh, not that I care or anything. Why would I? _I_ broke up with him. So, anyway, how is he doing? ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2025, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/402 "2025-06-08T23:13:34Z")
> [@Hari\_Seldon](#): > > I predict that they will be back together within a week or so. I’m not saying it was contrived. Trump is too dumb for that, Incidents can be contrived without any need for high intelligence. Donald has been jonesing for Martial Law for a while, now. Protesters have been inconveniently peaceful (not to mention white). Los Angeles has been close to becoming a center of protest for a couple of weeks at least. Having a Big Blowup with Elon was convenient to keeping people’s minds off Donald’s M.L. wishes. (And a lot of video of tanks being shipped to D.C. were ignored in favor of Don/Elon memes in recent days.) A distraction does NOT require a high IQ or multilayered conspiracies to come into existence. Dumb people use them, too. > [@Cervaise](#): > > There is zero possibility — _zero point zero zero zero to infinity_ — that Trump willingly participates in a stunt in which he is insulted and denigrated. You’re kidding, right? A guy who routinely makes up insulting nicknames for others could NOT possibly ever expect to be insulted in turn??? Donald _ **love** _s the drama of public feuds. Full stop. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2025, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/403 "2025-06-08T23:16:18Z")
Antediluvian. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2025, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/404 "2025-06-08T23:28:35Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > You’re kidding, right? A guy who routinely makes up insulting nicknames for others could NOT possibly ever expect to be insulted in turn??? Uh, yes, he would absolutely not expect it and absolutely would be infuriated by anyone who does. 100% he feels entitled to be completely immune from what he dishes out, and those who break that expectation have NO RIGHT to do so, ever. “Fuck YOUR feelings. But MY feelings are sacred and must be treated like the delicate crystal they are all the time by all the people.” It’s a huge reason we’re in this mess to begin with. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2025, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/405 "2025-06-09T04:38:31Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > You’re kidding, right? A guy who routinely makes up insulting nicknames for others could NOT possibly ever expect to be insulted in turn??? What? Are you new to this whole “Trump” thing? The insults go one way. Full stop. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2025, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/406 "2025-06-09T06:08:22Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > What? Are you new to this whole “Trump” thing? > > The insults go one way. Full stop. Exactly this. For someone who delights in insulting others, and referring to people he doesn’t like with childish, belittling nicknames, Trump has a paper-thin skin, and gets intensely angry when anyone dares to insult him in return. I’m pretty sure he’s still pissed at the guys from _Spy_ Magazine for nicknaming him “the short-fingered vulgarian,” and that was nearly 40 years ago. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2025, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/407 "2025-06-09T10:30:56Z")
The good old days; when Trump was just a NYC real estate developer and not yet a danger to civilization as we know it. ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2025, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/408 "2025-06-09T10:33:01Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > I’m amused that it’s only now occurring to Trump that Musk’s behavior is influenced by drug use. I’ve seen (in person) two psychotic episodes directly linked to drug use (LSD in both cases, plus super-potent cannabis in one). I’ve used illegal substances, I have had bad trips, but I never went psychotic. I’m also not a medical expert, but Musk is starting to sound very much like how an aquaintance of mine started thinking he was Jesus, and that another friend was Mary Magdalene. In short: insane, but overconfident. It is as if he takes some cocaine with his ketamine. (Don’t ask how I know the effects of that combo…) ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2025, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/409 "2025-06-09T11:53:48Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > I’m amused that it’s only now occurring to Trump that Musk’s behavior is influenced by drug use. I thought everyone knew that. I’d grant though that he may have been aware of the drug use in general making Elon act weird every so often, but not expecting these sorts of outbursts — from Trump’s POV nobody does things not in their own profitable interest so it’s like “why would he be daring me to actually hurt him?(\*) He must have taken too much or the wrong kind of whatever he’s on.” ( \* because of course nobody disagrees with Trump on principle, everyone is only looking to be nasty to him and needs to be put in their place ) ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2025, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/410 "2025-06-09T12:21:36Z")
> [@Toxgoddess](#): > > FWIW, I predict that they will be back together within a week or so. Musk’s father is saying much the same: [Asked how it would end, he said: “Oh, it will end on a good note – very soon.”](https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/musks-father-says-trump-row-triggered-by-intense-stress-has-to-end/) One reason for uncertainty: Tesla revenue is about ten times more than SpaceX, or at least it was last year. And Musk needs to keep distancing himself from Trump to have hope of reviving Tesla sales. ---
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2025, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/411 "2025-06-09T23:12:30Z")
Yeah, I was about to chime in with Musk’s father’s prediction. (Musk has a father, who knew? I thought he just emerged unbidden from the slime.) ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2025, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/412 "2025-06-10T01:09:54Z")
Well, his father is quite slimy. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2025, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/413 "2025-06-10T02:38:18Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > And Musk needs to keep distancing himself from Trump to have hope of reviving Tesla sales. I don’t think he could ever now distance himself from Trump sufficient to undo anything more than a small percentage of the damage. His name is poison with Tesla’s key market and always will be. I think Tesla’s best hope is that Musk sells his stake and Tesla promotes itself as no longer having any association with him. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2025, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/414 "2025-06-10T22:20:47Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > > [@Cervaise](#): > > > > There is zero possibility — _zero point zero zero zero to infinity_ — that Trump willingly participates in a stunt in which he is insulted and denigrated. > > You’re kidding, right? A guy who routinely makes up insulting nicknames for others could NOT possibly ever expect to be insulted in turn??? > > Donald _ **love** _s the drama of public feuds. Full stop. Nothing in what I said states or implies that Donald has a thick skin. Of _course_ he’s the most fragile snowflake ever. But that has never stopped him from getting into it with others. One feud after another after another—it’s his much-loved hobby, and he thinks he profits by it. He thinks it makes others admire him (and sadly he’s absolutely correct that a certain proportion of humans adore bullies). _ **Of course Donald would willingly get into it with Elon.** _ Donald confidently expected two things—that both look as though they’ll be proven true: - Elon wouldn’t ever say anything Donald _actually can’t stand to hear_. Elon has not said a word about Donald’s likely dementia (just like Fred’s!) or about Donald’s combover or about Donald’s fat ass. Not one word. Nothing about Donald’s being Putin’s poodle. Nothing about Donald having to be bailed out AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN from his business-stupidity. None of those things, or anything else from the list of Donald’s greatest vulnerabilities. - Donald will win. Donald will prevail and Elon will cave; Donald’s reputation will soar and Elon will bow down in fealty. So this is proving to be true: > [@](#): > > … Musk is already back to backing the president. By Sunday night, he had already pivoted to tweeting about the riots in Los Angeles, retweeting Vice-President JD Vance with supportive US flag emojis and attacking California’s governor, Gavin Newsom. … > **[Unstoppable force loses battle with immovable object: Elon bows to Trump](https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jun/09/elon-musk-trump-fight-ai-movies)** > > Four days into a public feud between the world’s most powerful person and the world’s richest person, I declare Musk the loser ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2025, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/415 "2025-06-11T01:59:03Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Elon wouldn’t ever say anything Donald _actually can’t stand to hear_. Elon has not said a word about Donald’s likely dementia (just like Fred’s!) or about Donald’s combover or about Donald’s fat ass. Not one word. Nothing about Donald’s being Putin’s poodle. Nothing about Donald having to be bailed out AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN from his business-stupidity. None of those things, or anything else from the list of Donald’s greatest vulnerabilities. Not so sure about this - Musk said Trump wouldn’t have won without Musk’s money. The idea that Trump needs help to win elections and can’t do it based purely on his Personal Greatness infuriates him. His major gripe with the accusation he had corruptly received help in winning from Russia was not the accusation of corruption but the idea he needed help. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2025, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/416 "2025-06-11T14:11:14Z")
Well, that didn’t last long… # Elon Musk says some of his social media posts about Trump ‘went too far’ [https://www.npr.org/2025/06/11/nx-s1-5430377/musk-regrets-trump-social-media-feud](https://www.npr.org/2025/06/11/nx-s1-5430377/musk-regrets-trump-social-media-feud) > Days after the [very public breakup](https://www.npr.org/2025/06/05/nx-s1-5424686/donald-trump-elon-musk-bromance-breakup) of President Trump and his former adviser Elon Musk, the latter appears to be doing damage control. > > “I regret some of my posts about President [Trump] last week,” [Musk posted](https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1932695486684950962) on X, his social media platform, just after 3 a.m. ET on Wednesday. “They went too far.” > > Trump has been active on social media early Wednesday, but has not responded publicly to Musk’s apology. > > However, in a previously recorded [podcast interview](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gD4DMC_CYzU) with the _New York Post_ that aired on Wednesday morning, Trump said he had “no hard feelings” towards Musk. > … What do you expect from middle-schoolers? ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2025, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/417 "2025-06-11T14:12:31Z")
I think Musk is sober now but wasn’t last week. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2025, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/418 "2025-06-11T14:15:10Z")
Maybe they’ll join the ranks of celebrity couples who repeatedly break up then make up. Keeps 'em in the headlines and social media anyway. > **[14 Celeb Couples Who Have Split Up Twice Or More](https://www.ranker.com/list/famous-couple-with-multiple-breakups/mona-bassil)** > > While some actors and musicians are very private about their love life, others flaunt their significant others and show them off on the red carpet and at various prestigious events. That is, until the relationship goes sour, and they find themselves... ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2025, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/419 "2025-06-11T16:37:56Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Maybe they’ll join the ranks of celebrity couples who repeatedly break up then make up. They need a “Bennifer”/“Brangelina” nickname. Trusk? Mump? ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2025, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/420 "2025-06-11T17:00:31Z")
Today I saw “TACO & ECHO” - “Elon CHickens Out” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346.md?page=20) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346.md?page=22)