# If/when Trump and Musk fall out, what will it be over? The results? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump, elon-musk\ **Created:** [February 15, 2025, 9:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346 "2025-02-15T09:08:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2025, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/421 "2025-06-11T17:00:42Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Maybe they’ll join the ranks of celebrity couples who repeatedly break up then make up. Keeps 'em in the headlines and social media anyway. Not a single mention of Melanie Griffith and Don Johnson, who were _married_ twice. Note: they began dating when he was 22 and she was… 14. The past is a foreign country they do things differently there… ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2025, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/422 "2025-06-11T18:09:05Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > What do you expect from middle-schoolers? Leon is always trying to do the amazing and impossible: build autonomous cars, send rockets to Mars, etc. But this was his greatest challenge of them all: making Trump look mature and disciplined in comparison with someone else! ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2025, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/423 "2025-06-11T18:50:42Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > I think Musk is sober now but wasn’t last week Yeah, he can always say he got a bad batch and now has a new supplier. ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2025, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/424 "2025-06-11T21:36:28Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > I think Musk is sober now but wasn’t last week. I thought it was the other way around. He sobered up for a minute and went “wait, what am I doing?” Sad to see they have made up but I wonder how many Scaramuccis it will be before they have a clash of the egos again. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2025, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/425 "2025-06-11T21:39:20Z")
If this break results in fewer government contracts for Musk’s companies, that would be a good thing. ---
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2025, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/426 "2025-06-11T23:04:11Z")
I claimed they would be back in a week. It didn’t take that long. Couple of five year olds. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2025, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/427 "2025-06-12T00:04:49Z")
Don’t insult my child like that! ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2025, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/428 "2025-06-12T21:04:30Z")
> [@DWMarch](#): > > I thought it was the other way around. He sobered up for a minute and went “wait, what am I doing?” Maybe. Or maybe he has believed for a while that he could arrest the plummet of his Tesla stock price by means of a Drama: Elon Defies Donald; Elon Realizes Donald IS the Dear Leader (After All). Not that I don’t think Elon was impaired during the Drama. He was definitely abusing something (likely the ketamine, but with him, who knows?) He wanted a way of changing the “Elon sleeps at the White House/Elon is Donald’s right hand” narrative, that wouldn’t be dull. No simple “Elon walks away” would do. Also, I think he is genuinely pissed that Donald’s bill doesn’t mandate EVs, and that Donald snubbed Elon’s choice for NASA. Elon’s pride required that he do something Dramatic to in response to those insults from Donald. To sum up: I think the Drama was partly fake (because Elon never said anything genuinely unforgiveable\*) and partly real (for the reasons given in the previous paragraph). . . .\* On the topic of Musk’s remarks about Donald not winning on his own: > [@Princhester](#): > > The idea that Trump needs help to win elections and can’t do it based purely on his Personal Greatness infuriates him. I don’t think this is quite right. Donald enlisted the help of quite a few people in addition to Elon during his campaign. If he were truly at the level of mental disturbance that would require he become President with NO help at all, he wouldn’t have enlisted those supporters to appear with him, etc. That said, he certainly _ **is** _ mentally disturbed. Just not in a way that would require him to campaign all by himself (out of a belief that He Is Enough). ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2025, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/429 "2025-06-21T04:51:51Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > It would violate the Takings Clause of the 5th amendment. If there is one thing that scares MAGA more than anything else it is the government taking their shit. Practically a cornerstone of their ideology. Just call it confiscation of suspected drug assets. Besides, he’s a furriner. He might even be illegal. It’s okay to take their shit. > [@Odesio](#): > > What an odd view Jessie Watters and Fox viewers have of men. Watters goes on about how sometimes men fight, which, okay, sometimes they fight, and how a man might sleep with his friend’s girlfriend, but they patch things up later. Are you %#$@ing kidding me? Men of the Straight Dope, if a friend of yours sleeps with your girlfriend are you likely to patch things up with him? If a former friend insinuates quite publicly that you are a pedophile are you likely to patch things up with him? Maybe slept with a girlfriend, depending on how much I liked her and other factors. But all real men are pedos anyway, so what’s a harmless joke among buddies, amI right? Besides, who would believe that old goatfucker? > [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > And to be honest, while the public spat is entertaining, it’s also very damaging to the integrity of the government. It’s just not very presidential. Since when has that mattered to the orange idiot? > [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I guess Elon had better avoid standing in the middle of Fifth Avenue. 😆 ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2025, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/430 "2025-06-21T05:16:47Z")
> [@Irishman](#): > > Just call it confiscation of suspected drug assets. Better yet, say that the reason why Musk bought Twitter in the first place was so that he could own the world’s biggest archive of child porn and the world’s biggest network of people who produce it. So that means we’ve got to seize every electronic thing he has ever touched _and_ all of his money (which is obviously all profit from the illegal stuff). If Trump said something like this I’d almost believe it and if anyone other than Trump said it, I’d fully believe it. It was dumb of Elon to brag that he’d be around for forty years. They might not be good years. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2025, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/431 "2025-06-21T17:00:52Z")
More grist for the mill: > **[Musk Accuses Trump Aide of Federal Crime as Feud Explodes](https://www.thedailybeast.com/elon-musk-accuses-trump-aide-sergio-gor-of-federal-crime-as-feud-explodes/)** > > The former boss of the Department of Government Efficiency has ramped up his attacks on White House staffer Sergio Gor. > The former boss of the Department of Government Efficiency has ramped up his attacks on White House staffer Sergio Gor. > > Elon Musk has accused one of President Donald Trump’s top aides of committing a federal crime. > > Weeks after the epic breakup between the president and the world’s richest man, Musk has continued to snipe at Sergio Gor, the director of the presidential personnel office, who he believes fueled his falling out with Trump. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2025, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/432 "2025-06-21T17:08:46Z")
So trumpie and elon are on the outs again? I guess you have to check to see if elon’s personal flag is flying over the White House. Like the way you tell if the monarch is in Buckingham Palace. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2025, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/433 "2025-06-21T18:09:44Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > More grist for the mill: Musk accusing another government department head of committing a crime. Between this, Bannon going after Musk, and Tucker Carlson skewering Ted Cruz, I’m almost enjoying this. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2025, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/434 "2025-06-22T01:18:03Z")
It would be more fun to watch if they were using real skewers. Or roasting spits. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2025, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/435 "2025-06-22T01:21:06Z")
Bring back jousting ! ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2025, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/436 "2025-06-22T01:26:00Z")
Be of good cheer, jousting is still [again] here! > **[Reddit - The heart of the internet](https://www.reddit.com/r/theocho/comments/rwlbct/fullcontac_jousting_looks_awesome_i_wanna_try_i/)** ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2025, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/437 "2025-07-07T02:02:41Z")
They’re fighting again! > **[Trump calls Musk's formation of new party "ridiculous" and criticizes his own...](https://www.yahoo.com/news/finance/news/investment-firm-azoria-postpones-tesla-061037362.html)** > > WASHINGTON (Reuters) -President Donald Trump on Sunday called Elon Musk's plans to form a new political party "ridiculous," launching new barbs at the tech billionaire and saying the Musk ally he once named to lead NASA would have presented a... ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2025, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/438 "2025-07-07T02:22:45Z")
I love it when ~~Mommy~~ Daddy and Daddy fight. 🥊 🥊 ---
**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2025, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/439 "2025-07-07T06:54:01Z")
More like Daddy and Uncle Fester. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2025, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/440 "2025-07-09T22:07:26Z")
On the ‘Musk may create a third party’ story: there’s speculation that he may base it on the uproar over the Epstein files. Much of MAGA is freaking out over the Trump Justice Department’s failure to make public what Donald _promised_ to make public back when he was campaigning. Imagine Donald’s surprise when his fans actually expect him to do something he promised…but in any case, Elon sees an opportunity here. Siphoning off votes from the conspiracy-theory-focused crowd can only harm Republicans (who count on a lot of votes from those people) and help Democrats (who do not). Sounds good to me… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346.md?page=21) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346.md?page=23)