# If/when Trump and Musk fall out, what will it be over? The results? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump, elon-musk\ **Created:** [February 15, 2025, 9:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346 "2025-02-15T09:08:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2025, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/61 "2025-02-20T17:53:01Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > I expect Trump to use that to actually distance himself from those actions under the guise of “I didn’t know what he was doing and he wasn’t following my orders.” Yes, that is his SOP. Musk will be pulp under bus tires the moment Trump gets the jitters. > [@](#): > > That’s why Musk is useful to him and his compatriots. And Musk is too oblivious to see that he’s the mark in this case. > [@](#): > > But we’ll see what happens; at this point, my Magic 8 Ball keeps returning “Better not tell you now”, “Ask again later”, and “Reply hazy, try again”. Yep, even chaos theory is of little help here. ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2025, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/62 "2025-02-20T18:39:09Z")
My Magic 8 Ball says, “OMG”, “You ain’t gonna like it”, and “Kill yourself”. “OMG”, that’s _good_, right? ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2025, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/63 "2025-02-20T19:04:38Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > Howbeit, as unself-aware as Musk clearly is, it can’t possibly escape his notice that he is fucking Tesla with his, um, _everything he’s doing._ Maximizing that automaker’s fortunes no longer seems to be his priority. He doesn’t _need_ it anymore, now he has access to the government’s funds and can loot the entire nation at once without even needing to sell anything. ---
**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2025, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/64 "2025-02-20T20:03:18Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > Yes, that is his SOP. Musk will be pulp under bus tires the moment Trump gets the jitters. Except again (and this really needs to be said in public by the media) Musk is different to Bannon and the hordes of other scumbags and grifters who have oiled the axles of the Maga bus. He has a huge, almost unlimited, pile of cash and is almost certainly in the process of discretely funneling that cash to Donald.J Trump (it’s possible this is being done on the promise of cash in the future but I can’t believe Trump would trust Musk not to screw him over just as he would if the roles were reversed) ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2025, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/65 "2025-02-20T21:04:45Z")
You are most likely correct. Agree that his wealth puts him in a different category. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2025, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/66 "2025-02-21T03:48:54Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > Or maybe Elon will get caught fucking Ivanka (because somehow not all women feel like crawling out of their skin around that creep) and Trump fire him out of jealousy. A man can dream, can’t he? In this timeline, that is a highly probable reason for a split. The key is to think of the most insane thing and up it to 11. Maybe Ivanka will announce she is having Elon’s kid and they are naming it Doge E. > [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > So it’s ‘unfair’ to the U.S.; but if Musk does it, it’s OK. Might be a source of friction (I hope). Musk puts a little more cash in the coffers. All good. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2025, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/67 "2025-02-21T05:35:05Z")
I have no idea what it might be over, but the results? Trump will deny ever having met Muskox. ---
**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2025, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/68 "2025-02-22T04:54:24Z")
> [@griffin1977](#): > > Except again (and this really needs to be said in public by the media) Musk is different to Bannon and the hordes of other scumbags and grifters who have oiled the axles of the Maga bus. He has a huge, almost unlimited, pile of cash and is almost certainly in the process of discretely funneling that cash to Donald.J Trump I suspect that a lot of MOC have had it explained to them the Musk can bury their reelection bids with contributions to their challengers if they don’t bend the knee, and he’ll be reimbursed with subsidies and contracts. Trumps comments to the Maine governor, for example. ---
**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2025, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/69 "2025-02-22T18:22:21Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > > [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > > > Or maybe Elon will get caught fucking Ivanka (because somehow not all women feel like crawling out of their skin around that creep) and Trump fire him out of jealousy. A man can dream, can’t he? > > In this timeline, that is a highly probable reason for a split. The key is to think of the most insane thing and up it to 11. Maybe Ivanka will announce she is having Elon’s kid and they are naming it Doge E. remind me: Is Ivanka the blonde with the plastic face/body, or the brunette with the plastic face/body? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2025, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/70 "2025-02-22T20:19:11Z")
Doesn’t matter, since Elon doesn’t actually have sex with anyone on account of his broken dick. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2025, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/71 "2025-02-22T20:32:13Z")
You’re forgetting the power of Neuralink! ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2025, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/72 "2025-02-24T19:36:55Z")
[Cracks are showing over Musk’s attempt to fast track firings.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues/1010068/2302) ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2025, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/73 "2025-02-25T11:50:14Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#): > > I have no idea what it might be over, but the results? Trump will deny ever having met Muskox. But there’s clear evidence of their very close relationship! I’d advise not eating before watching this (hopefully faked) video. It would certainly make me want to go back to teleworking if I were at HUD. > **[HUD computers are hacked to show AI video of Trump kissing Elon Musk’s feet](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-kissing-musk-feet-hud-ai-video-b2704021.html)** > > Hackers rolled out the 19-second video on the day that federal workers were ordered to return to the office ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2025, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/74 "2025-02-26T00:19:48Z")
I’m starting to suspect that Trump leaves Musk in place as a focus of everyone’s hatred, so that everyone else in the administration, Trump included, is liked by comparison. ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2025, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/75 "2025-02-26T01:10:02Z")
Ain’t working on me. 😡 ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2025, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/76 "2025-02-26T01:19:45Z")
Perhaps not. And honestly, I can’t see Trump being that devious. But Musk is really unpopular, even among those in districts that voted overwhelmingly for Trump. From a New York Times article about a meeting Pete Sessions, Congressman from Texas, had with constituents in a small East Texas town. > Louis Smith, a veteran who lives in East Texas, told Mr. Sessions that he agreed with the effort to root out excessive spending, but he criticized the way it was being handled and presented to the public. > > “I like what you’re saying, but you need to tell more people,” Mr. Smith said. “The guy in South Africa is not doing you any good — he’s hurting you more than he’s helping,” he added, referring to Mr. Musk and drawing nods and applause from many in the room. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2025, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/77 "2025-02-26T02:15:50Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > I’m starting to suspect that Trump leaves Musk in place as a focus of everyone’s hatred, so that everyone else in the administration, Trump included, is liked by comparison. So there’s a good guy/bad guy routine, and Donald Trump is one of the good guys? I’m not saying you’re wrong. Have any other authoritarian leaders had a Elon Musk? I’m thinking Sanjay Gandhi was Musky. Anyone else? Perhaps there’s a case for Alexander Ii and Rasputin. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2025, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/78 "2025-02-26T03:59:57Z")
More likely to be simply that he’s too lazy to do anything that doesn’t involve golf or adulation, and Musk is more than willing to do the dirty work ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2025, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/79 "2025-02-26T04:03:00Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > Have any other authoritarian leaders had a Elon Musk? Ernst Rohm comes to mind. Things worked out just fine for him, right? ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2025, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346/80 "2025-02-26T04:37:24Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > Have any other authoritarian leaders had a Elon Musk? I’m thinking Sanjay Gandhi was Musky. Anyone else? [Frederich Flick](https://time.com/5268155/flick-german-billionaires-nazi-past/) Stranger [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-when-trump-and-musk-fall-out-what-will-it-be-over-the-results/1014346.md?page=5)