# If you accuse yourself of trolling, is that 2 violations? Or just 1? **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [January 21, 2013, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-accuse-yourself-of-trolling-is-that-2-violations-or-just-1/647925 "2013-01-21T18:09:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2013, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-accuse-yourself-of-trolling-is-that-2-violations-or-just-1/647925/21 "2013-01-22T03:35:37Z")
What about a user who posts repeatedly that he goes out of his way to be as annoying as possible to teach others ‘a lesson’? Isn’t that pretty much a standard definition of trolling? [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15893860&postcount=103). > [@](#): > > Do what I do. Threaten to get even more annoying if they don’t shut up. - I’m pretty sure he’s said it before too. \*Yes, yes, he only _implied_ that he does it, and it was “just” a threat. But the point remains. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2013, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-accuse-yourself-of-trolling-is-that-2-violations-or-just-1/647925/22 "2013-01-22T04:36:48Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Accusing yourself of trolling is a violation? Well fuck me, I didn’t know that. I should just kill myself! I see what you did there. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2013, 8:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-accuse-yourself-of-trolling-is-that-2-violations-or-just-1/647925/23 "2013-01-22T08:55:26Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > What about a user who posts repeatedly that he goes out of his way to be as annoying as possible to teach others ‘a lesson’? Isn’t that pretty much a standard definition of trolling? [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15893860&postcount=103). > > - > > I’m pretty sure he’s said it before too. > > \*Yes, yes, he only _implied_ that he does it, and it was “just” a threat. But the point remains. If you’d read the thread instead of just looking for reasons to get rid of a poster you hate, you’d also know that I said I’m not trying to be annoying here. You’d also note that I said it in the pit, the one place on the board where being annoying on purpose is allowed, as long as I believe what I’m saying. The only time on this board I’ve ever intentionally been annoying is when people like you attack me in the Pit for no reason than your massive hate-on for me. I will intentionally push your buttons by saying things I know will bug you. Because, for some reason, actually explaining myself pisses you off more. So why not get some fun in while I’m annoying you? Now, if you find my being matter-of-fact when responding to you to be annoying, or my returning tit for tat when someone breaks the rules of decorum but not the rules of the board, that’s kinda your problem. I’m pretty sure you’ll be pissed off by this post, too. Deal with it. ---
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2013, 11:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-accuse-yourself-of-trolling-is-that-2-violations-or-just-1/647925/24 "2013-01-22T11:32:01Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > I’m pretty sure you’ll be pissed off by this post, too. Deal with it. Piss himself laughing more likely. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2013, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-accuse-yourself-of-trolling-is-that-2-violations-or-just-1/647925/25 "2013-01-22T12:13:57Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > I will intentionally push your buttons by saying things I know will bug you. Mods? Another admission of trolling, and a pretty blunt one at that. Also. please keep in mind I wasn’t even IN the prior thread until after he posted, and then my comments were directed at the OP, not him. So he’s clearly using “you” generically, not me specifically. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2013, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-accuse-yourself-of-trolling-is-that-2-violations-or-just-1/647925/26 "2013-01-22T14:49:37Z")
Wait, so the “T” in **BigT** is… oh my _GOD_! ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2013, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-accuse-yourself-of-trolling-is-that-2-violations-or-just-1/647925/27 "2013-01-22T15:03:30Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Wait, so the “T” in **BigT** is… oh my _GOD_! Turnip? The plot thickens! :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2013, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-accuse-yourself-of-trolling-is-that-2-violations-or-just-1/647925/28 "2013-01-22T15:30:18Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Wait, so the “T” in **BigT** is… oh my _GOD_! Teople? ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2013, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-accuse-yourself-of-trolling-is-that-2-violations-or-just-1/647925/29 "2013-01-22T15:57:05Z")
Toffee? I likes me some toffee. ---
**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2013, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-accuse-yourself-of-trolling-is-that-2-violations-or-just-1/647925/30 "2013-01-22T16:14:35Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Wait, so the “T” in **BigT** is… oh my _GOD_! Well, that _is_ just the way he ‘rolls’. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2013, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-accuse-yourself-of-trolling-is-that-2-violations-or-just-1/647925/31 "2013-01-22T17:00:01Z")
_Before you accuse me Take a look at yourself_ - Bo Diddley ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2013, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-accuse-yourself-of-trolling-is-that-2-violations-or-just-1/647925/32 "2013-01-22T17:47:15Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > The only time on this board I’ve ever intentionally been annoying is when people like you attack me in the Pit for no reason than your massive hate-on for me. I will intentionally push your buttons by saying things I know will bug you. > [@Fenris](#): > > Mods? Another admission of trolling, and a pretty blunt one at that. As far as I know, that is permitted in the pit, where he posted it. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2013, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-accuse-yourself-of-trolling-is-that-2-violations-or-just-1/647925/33 "2013-01-22T18:59:33Z")
My understanding differs–I thought he was unable to troll, regardless of forum and "intentionally pushing [people’s] buttons is pretty much the textbook definition of trolling. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2013, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-accuse-yourself-of-trolling-is-that-2-violations-or-just-1/647925/34 "2013-01-22T22:23:11Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > My understanding differs–I thought he was unable to troll, regardless of forum and "intentionally pushing [people’s] buttons is pretty much the textbook definition of trolling. I believe this is also the definition that TPTB use: having fun by intentionally pushing buttons is the key, not being insincere. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2013, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-accuse-yourself-of-trolling-is-that-2-violations-or-just-1/647925/35 "2013-01-22T22:49:52Z")
Presicely–I remember someone (Tomndebb, maybe? I’m pretty sure it was GD, pre Marley) saying that it was pretty hard to judge sincerity, but fairly easy to tell if someone was pushing buttons. Of course when the person comes right out and brags how he’s trolling…that’s a whole other matter. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2013, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-accuse-yourself-of-trolling-is-that-2-violations-or-just-1/647925/36 "2013-01-22T22:53:55Z")
There’s a whole mess of 'em in that Pit threat about not changing seats in a theater. **Bob Ducca** even specifically said they’re poking the OP with a stick because there’s nothing better to do. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-accuse-yourself-of-trolling-is-that-2-violations-or-just-1/647925/37 "2013-03-19T11:09:10Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > What about a user who posts repeatedly that he goes out of his way to be as annoying as possible to teach others ‘a lesson’? Isn’t that pretty much a standard definition of trolling? [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15893860&postcount=103). Sorry to bump this again, but BigT is still bragging about trolling. > [@Caesin is not dairy free, you fuckers!](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caesin-is-not-dairy-free-you-fuckers/653119/113): > > The worst thing I’ve done is deliberately being annoying to some people in a very specific way: So…he’s deliberately being annoying to posters. This _is_ the definition of trolling.\* \*No…seriously. > [@](#): > > [to post deliberately inflammatory articles on an internet discussion board](http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/troll) ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-accuse-yourself-of-trolling-is-that-2-violations-or-just-1/647925/38 "2013-03-19T11:36:23Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > returning tit for tat Nitpick: On guys the correct term is “manboobs”. ---
**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-accuse-yourself-of-trolling-is-that-2-violations-or-just-1/647925/39 "2013-03-19T12:20:42Z")
I thought the whole point of the **BBQ** Pit was to post imflammatory material? ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-accuse-yourself-of-trolling-is-that-2-violations-or-just-1/647925/40 "2013-03-19T13:12:49Z")
> [@Steophan](#): > > I thought the whole point of the **BBQ** Pit was to post imflammatory material? My understanding of the rules is that you can’t troll in the pit, or anywhere else. The Pit is for flaming other posters or venting, not outright admitting that you’re trolling. (And for some weird-ass reason, he keeps bragging about it) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-accuse-yourself-of-trolling-is-that-2-violations-or-just-1/647925.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-accuse-yourself-of-trolling-is-that-2-violations-or-just-1/647925.md?page=3)