# If you are carrying water for Donald Trump, even now - especially now - kindly go fuck yourself **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 16, 2017, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-are-carrying-water-for-donald-trump-even-now-especially-now-kindly-go-fuck-yourself/786710 "2017-05-16T02:20:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-are-carrying-water-for-donald-trump-even-now-especially-now-kindly-go-fuck-yourself/786710/1 "2017-05-16T02:20:15Z")
I don’t care if you’re trolling YouTube and Yahoo comments sections or are on Fox News. I don’t care if you are literally believing bullshit or just trying to rationalize things to make yourself feel better. It means nothing to me whether your attempts to stick up for the piece of shit POTUS are motivated by your being a Republican and he’s on your team and it’s oh so fun stiggin’ it to the Libs or are because you identify as an Independent (that’s a whole other “fuck you” really) who somehow only seems to come out of your cave when it is to defend some bullshit Trump has said or done, or even if you’re a supposed Leftist who _still_ feels that HRC was a much worse choice, even after all of the evidence three-plus months has given us. I could care less if you attempt intelligent discussion or if you scream obscenities. If you feel the need to defend the actions and words that are commonplace in the Trump administration, you are an asshole. If you try and stick up for them, you are a moron. If you attempt to rationalize that they’re not so bad, you are an idiot. Everyone who knows you should mock you for the partisan fool that you are, unable to admit that your vote for Trump or not for HRC was the second biggest mistake of your pathetic life (the first, of course, being your refusal to make that admission even now, especially now). Trump is terrible. His administration has been one Constitutional crisis after another. There is no defense here. And if you feel the need to advocate for this piece of shit, then you are a piece of shit. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-are-carrying-water-for-donald-trump-even-now-especially-now-kindly-go-fuck-yourself/786710/2 "2017-05-16T02:28:04Z")
I would just add that if you are carry water for Donald Trump, and you’re NOT currently on the payroll of the Kremlin; Then you’re also an idiot. You’re doing their work for free. They have hundreds, possibly thousands of agents spreading disinformation, all of them paid. You need to stop doing their work for free. You’re basically a scab worker, taking the bread and rubles out of the hands of Putin’s faithful workforce. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-are-carrying-water-for-donald-trump-even-now-especially-now-kindly-go-fuck-yourself/786710/3 "2017-05-16T02:34:08Z")
I said the day after Election Day that I had one small crumb of comfort. As bad as the Trump presidency was going to be, at least I wouldn’t have to blame myself for it. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-are-carrying-water-for-donald-trump-even-now-especially-now-kindly-go-fuck-yourself/786710/4 "2017-05-16T02:48:43Z")
I’m not carrying water for Trump, who I think is a stain on the Presidency who has beclowned the United States to the world. But that does not mean I won’t defend him against obvious lies, smears, threats of violence, bogus or silly arguments, etc. Look: Trump is a target-rich environment of stupidity, gaffes, and lies. There is plenty of real stuff to worry about. But the hyperventilating over every tweet and the rampant conspiracy stuff has got to stop. It only validates the belief of his supporters that his enemies are unhinged and dishonest. As the old saying goes, if you get in the mud to fight a pig, you lose. You just get yourself dirty, and the pig likes it. The moral high ground has been ceded by Trump. Don’t cede it back to him because you’re mad or afraid. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-are-carrying-water-for-donald-trump-even-now-especially-now-kindly-go-fuck-yourself/786710/5 "2017-05-16T02:50:56Z")
Now take that relevation and consider we’ve been saying the same thing about you people and Hillary Clinton for 25 years. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-are-carrying-water-for-donald-trump-even-now-especially-now-kindly-go-fuck-yourself/786710/6 "2017-05-16T02:51:52Z")
Those clowns in congress beclowned again. What a bunch of beclowners. (BTW, I’m stealing beclown) ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-are-carrying-water-for-donald-trump-even-now-especially-now-kindly-go-fuck-yourself/786710/7 "2017-05-16T02:52:41Z")
There’s another saying about pigs. If you put lipstick on it… ---
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-are-carrying-water-for-donald-trump-even-now-especially-now-kindly-go-fuck-yourself/786710/8 "2017-05-16T02:52:57Z")
I haven’t had to hand out a participation trophy in several weeks now. Congratulations. Not even a specific complaint, just 'Trump pissed in my Post Toasties and I’m not gonna take it any more". ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-are-carrying-water-for-donald-trump-even-now-especially-now-kindly-go-fuck-yourself/786710/9 "2017-05-16T02:54:05Z")
> [@](#): > > …(BTW, I’m stealing beclown)… No, you’re not. (Google it…) ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-are-carrying-water-for-donald-trump-even-now-especially-now-kindly-go-fuck-yourself/786710/10 "2017-05-16T03:01:36Z")
> [@Projammer](#): > > I haven’t had to hand out a participation trophy in several weeks now. Congratulations. Not even a specific complaint, just 'Trump pissed in my Post Toasties and I’m not gonna take it any more". Yeah, nothing new to see here. Presidents have been handing out secret intel to hostile foreign powers simply forever. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-are-carrying-water-for-donald-trump-even-now-especially-now-kindly-go-fuck-yourself/786710/11 "2017-05-16T03:13:34Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > Yeah, nothing new to see here. Presidents have been handing out secret intel to hostile foreign powers simply forever. It’s OK, because Trump did not actually give the Russians the sources exact name and address. Just a map on how to get there. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-are-carrying-water-for-donald-trump-even-now-especially-now-kindly-go-fuck-yourself/786710/12 "2017-05-16T03:19:53Z")
… and where to get the best chocolate cake on the way. ---
**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-are-carrying-water-for-donald-trump-even-now-especially-now-kindly-go-fuck-yourself/786710/13 "2017-05-16T03:27:44Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > … and where to get the best chocolate cake on the way. Wait, I think I know… Mar a Lago? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-are-carrying-water-for-donald-trump-even-now-especially-now-kindly-go-fuck-yourself/786710/14 "2017-05-16T03:38:21Z")
You know, all these denials pouring in from various Whitehouse toadies is starting to make me pretty confident of one thing;… … … Tomorrow, Donald Trump will do an interview where he admits he told the Russians confidential information. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-are-carrying-water-for-donald-trump-even-now-especially-now-kindly-go-fuck-yourself/786710/15 "2017-05-16T03:42:04Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > No, you’re not. (Google it…) Yeah, so? It means exactly what it appears to mean. I’ve not heard it before, but now I will abuse it. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-are-carrying-water-for-donald-trump-even-now-especially-now-kindly-go-fuck-yourself/786710/16 "2017-05-16T04:06:41Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Now take that relevation and consider we’ve been saying the same thing about you people and Hillary Clinton for 25 years. I think the OP is referring to you, twatwaffle. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-are-carrying-water-for-donald-trump-even-now-especially-now-kindly-go-fuck-yourself/786710/17 "2017-05-16T04:09:55Z")
I must imagine **Okrahoma** ’s ears (both left and right) are burning, right about now… ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-are-carrying-water-for-donald-trump-even-now-especially-now-kindly-go-fuck-yourself/786710/18 "2017-05-16T04:10:05Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Look: Trump is a target-rich environment of stupidity, gaffes, and lies. There is plenty of real stuff to worry about. But the hyperventilating over every tweet and the rampant conspiracy stuff has got to stop. It only validates the belief of his supporters that his enemies are unhinged and dishonest. As it was found years after, What Nixon did was worse than what Woodward and Bernstein suspected back in the day. So the supporters of Trump are snowflakes. Too bad, they should not had elected someone that more reasonable people on the right knew for a long time that he was going to be a disaster. > **[Why Nominating Donald J. Trump Would Be a Catastrophe — DR. BRIAN MATTSON](http://drbrianmattson.com/journal/2016/1/23/why-nominating-donald-j-trump-would-be-a-catastrophe)** > > The subject of my last post was why I believe nominating Ted Cruz is a mistake. In a nutshell, Cruz has a more limited upside than others when it comes to getting enough votes in a general election. I don't doubt the sincerity of his conservatism,... > **[A Trump Win Will Be Terrible for the GOP; So Will a Loss](https://redstate.com/kiradavis/2016/11/08/trump-win-will-terrible-gop-will-loss-n63452)** > >   ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-are-carrying-water-for-donald-trump-even-now-especially-now-kindly-go-fuck-yourself/786710/19 "2017-05-16T04:14:48Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > …reasonable people on the right knew for a long time that he was going to be a disaster… Both of them? ---
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-are-carrying-water-for-donald-trump-even-now-especially-now-kindly-go-fuck-yourself/786710/20 "2017-05-16T04:41:54Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > You know, all these denials pouring in from various Whitehouse toadies is starting to make me pretty confident of one thing;… > > … > … > > Tomorrow, Donald Trump will do an interview where he admits he told the Russians confidential information. No, there will be a 3AM twitter storm where Trump complains bitterly about Clinton, Benghazi, emails and starts calling Republicans that have criticised him traitors… 2 Hours until 3AM in DC… [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-are-carrying-water-for-donald-trump-even-now-especially-now-kindly-go-fuck-yourself/786710.md?page=2)