# If you are carrying water for Donald Trump, even now - especially now - kindly go fuck yourself

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**Created:** [May 16, 2017, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-are-carrying-water-for-donald-trump-even-now-especially-now-kindly-go-fuck-yourself/786710 "2017-05-16T02:20:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-are-carrying-water-for-donald-trump-even-now-especially-now-kindly-go-fuck-yourself/786710/61 "2017-05-16T14:16:04Z")

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> [@WillFarnaby](#):
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> Worse still are the thousands of Trump minions stewing in their cubicle while collecting paychecks from Trump and carrying out his directives.

Yes, you hate government workers. You’ve made that very clear. You don’t need to inject your personal hatred into unrelated threads.

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**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-are-carrying-water-for-donald-trump-even-now-especially-now-kindly-go-fuck-yourself/786710/62 "2017-05-16T14:16:17Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> On a message board devoted to fighting ignorance, I am comfortable “carrying water” for the actual facts, whoever they may benefit.

Not really. You like to think yourself quite the intellectual above the fray but you’re an asshole like the rest of them. You fool nobody, save for maybe yourself, but that’s par for the course.

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> Not because I wish to defend Trump, but because I have an interest in fighting ignorance.

Except for your own.

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**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-are-carrying-water-for-donald-trump-even-now-especially-now-kindly-go-fuck-yourself/786710/63 "2017-05-16T14:21:15Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Wow. \<golfclap\>
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> What a beautiful example of liberal bullshit spewing. Tons of vituperative rhetoric with not a single fact for support. Lots of vitriol, gotta give you credit for that. Brainpower and intelligence…sadly lacking, though. And big bonus points for the massive ad hominem attacks against Trump supporters.
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> All in all, a truly fine representative post that could be used as a template for whiny liberal snowflakes needing to vent their spleen for their daily temper tantrums.

Hey, stupid, this thread isn’t about you. You were stupid as pig shit before Trump and will continue to be stupid as pig shit when he’s thankfully gone.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-are-carrying-water-for-donald-trump-even-now-especially-now-kindly-go-fuck-yourself/786710/64 "2017-05-16T14:22:10Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> **Superdude** , I’m going to do you a favor and quote you so Clothy will be able to read your post. You’re welcome. 😉

Oh! Do mine, Do mine!:  
Fuck off, **Clot**.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-are-carrying-water-for-donald-trump-even-now-especially-now-kindly-go-fuck-yourself/786710/65 "2017-05-16T14:22:24Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> Somebody the other day had a good piece on anti-anti-Trumpers. Basically, conservatives who realize they can’t defend Trump, but in the absence of anything for them to be _for_ anymore, have joined with pro-Trumpers in the conservative safe space of liberal-bashing, because it’s the only thing they’ve got left. No meaningful policy agenda (other than to take health care away from people who need it but can’t afford it), a tantrum-throwing 70 year old child as leader of their party…yep, liberal-bashing is all they’ve got.

Well that’s nothing new. Have you forgotten that opposing Bush’s attempt to conquer Iraq and commandeer its resources was met with “Why do you hate freedom?” and the like? They supported Bush but could not defend him, so they responded by whining about liberals.

I don’t know why support of Trump is required before a Republican can be told to go fuck itself. Bush is gone, but the scum who supported him remain, and they’re not any less vile than they were 14 years ago. They’re quite a bit more so these days, in fact. “Go fuck yourself” should have been the default attitude toward the American right long before Trump came along.

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**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-are-carrying-water-for-donald-trump-even-now-especially-now-kindly-go-fuck-yourself/786710/66 "2017-05-16T14:23:46Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> Have any of the board’s conservative/republican posters admitted they’re disgusted with the current state of affairs of their party and renounced them?
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> Or have they all carved out narrower justifications as to why they can keep being part of the Republican tribe while declaring themselves absolved from the insanity of their political team?

Precisely my point. They even do it in this very thread. These pieces of shit think it’s far better to snipe at my OP than the piece of shit in the White House.

The priorities of the modern conservative. Exhibit fucking A.

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**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-are-carrying-water-for-donald-trump-even-now-especially-now-kindly-go-fuck-yourself/786710/67 "2017-05-16T14:24:47Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Oh! Do mine, Do mine!:  
> Fuck off, **Clot**.

Always glad to help.

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**Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-are-carrying-water-for-donald-trump-even-now-especially-now-kindly-go-fuck-yourself/786710/68 "2017-05-16T14:26:57Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> Somebody the other day had a good piece on anti-anti-Trumpers. Basically, conservatives who realize they can’t defend Trump, but in the absence of anything for them to be _for_ anymore, have joined with pro-Trumpers in the conservative safe space of liberal-bashing, because it’s the only thing they’ve got left.

The thing about that is that electorally it IS a relatively safe space - a lot of the RW vote HAS for quite a while been driven by anti-Liberalism for its own sake. There are millions of voters out there who in the end will grit their teeth and bear the loss of health insurance, unemployment, sending their kids to die in wars, income erosion, etc. just so they can oppose godless leftism.

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**Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-are-carrying-water-for-donald-trump-even-now-especially-now-kindly-go-fuck-yourself/786710/69 "2017-05-16T14:28:03Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> Somebody the other day had a good piece on anti-anti-Trumpers. Basically, conservatives who realize they can’t defend Trump, but in the absence of anything for them to be _for_ anymore, have joined with pro-Trumpers in the conservative safe space of liberal-bashing, because it’s the only thing they’ve got left. No meaningful policy agenda (other than to take health care away from people who need it but can’t afford it), a tantrum-throwing 70 year old child as leader of their party…yep, liberal-bashing is all they’ve got.

I believe this is it.  
[https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/12/opinion/sunday/if-liberals-hate-him-then-trump-must-be-doing-something-right.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/12/opinion/sunday/if-liberals-hate-him-then-trump-must-be-doing-something-right.html)

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-are-carrying-water-for-donald-trump-even-now-especially-now-kindly-go-fuck-yourself/786710/70 "2017-05-16T14:28:48Z")

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> [@Evil\_Economist](#):
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> Replace “Trump” with “Obama”, and “liberal” with “right wing extremist” and this perfectly describes every political post you’ve ever made. You are remarkably lacking in self-reflection.

You could have left off the last 3 words and been just as accurate.

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**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-are-carrying-water-for-donald-trump-even-now-especially-now-kindly-go-fuck-yourself/786710/71 "2017-05-16T14:33:12Z")

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> [@yezlles](#):
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> I believe this is it.  
> [https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/12/opinion/sunday/if-liberals-hate-him-then-trump-must-be-doing-something-right.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/12/opinion/sunday/if-liberals-hate-him-then-trump-must-be-doing-something-right.html)

I mentioned this in the OP: “it’s oh so fun stiggin’ it to the Libs.”

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-are-carrying-water-for-donald-trump-even-now-especially-now-kindly-go-fuck-yourself/786710/72 "2017-05-16T14:38:29Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> **Superdude** , I’m going to do you a favor and quote you so Clothy will be able to read your post. You’re welcome. 😉

I _do_ appreciate that, m’dear.

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-are-carrying-water-for-donald-trump-even-now-especially-now-kindly-go-fuck-yourself/786710/73 "2017-05-16T14:45:48Z")

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> [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](#):
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> Precisely my point. They even do it in this very thread. These pieces of shit think it’s far better to snipe at my OP than the piece of shit in the White House.
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> The priorities of the modern conservative. Exhibit fucking A.

Easy, Tiger - if you’re not careful the conservatives might call you shrill.

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**Author:** ![ganthet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de0a6/32.png) [@ganthet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ganthet)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-are-carrying-water-for-donald-trump-even-now-especially-now-kindly-go-fuck-yourself/786710/74 "2017-05-16T14:51:16Z")

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> [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](#):
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> I mentioned this in the OP: “it’s oh so fun stiggin’ it to the Libs.”

It used to be a debate about ideas, principals, and the different roads that are available to achieve the big ticket goals. Now, for a large number of right wingers, it’s just about the tribe. Trump is leader of Team Red and Team Red must be supported at all costs, therefore Trump will be defended regardless of personal feelings or disgust.

Both sides have always had a tribal “Caesar can do no wrong” element, but it has consumed the right with the dominance of Rush, Fox News, and now Trump.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-are-carrying-water-for-donald-trump-even-now-especially-now-kindly-go-fuck-yourself/786710/75 "2017-05-16T14:52:19Z")

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> [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](#):
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> “it’s oh so fun stiggin’ it to the Libs.”

Chumpaloth in a nutshell.

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**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-are-carrying-water-for-donald-trump-even-now-especially-now-kindly-go-fuck-yourself/786710/76 "2017-05-16T15:12:17Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Yes, you hate government workers. You’ve made that very clear. You don’t need to inject your personal hatred into unrelated threads.

Oh it’s related. You are doing much more than carrying water for Trump as a Trump minion. Defending Trump on a message board is irrelevant now. He holds power. You help him exercise that power.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-are-carrying-water-for-donald-trump-even-now-especially-now-kindly-go-fuck-yourself/786710/77 "2017-05-16T15:23:12Z")

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> [@ganthet](#):
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> Both sides have always had a tribal “Caesar can do no wrong” element, but it has consumed the right with the dominance of Rush, Fox News, and now Trump.

False equivalence.

While the wingnuts loved to say Dems considered Obama the second coming, in the real world there was lots of bitching and moaning from the left about how the man was just too darn conservative. Bill Clinton caught the same shit.

The Democratic Party is renowned for the infighting and disarray. This is really not a “both sides do it” moment.

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**Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-are-carrying-water-for-donald-trump-even-now-especially-now-kindly-go-fuck-yourself/786710/78 "2017-05-16T15:33:56Z")

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When will you libtard snowflakes figure out that Trump is playing 3D chess?

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-are-carrying-water-for-donald-trump-even-now-especially-now-kindly-go-fuck-yourself/786710/79 "2017-05-16T15:43:10Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> I said the day after Election Day that I had one small crumb of comfort. As bad as the Trump presidency was going to be, at least I wouldn’t have to blame myself for it.

Same here. McMullin 2016!

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-are-carrying-water-for-donald-trump-even-now-especially-now-kindly-go-fuck-yourself/786710/80 "2017-05-16T15:43:38Z")

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> [@WillFarnaby](#):
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> Oh it’s related. You are doing much more than carrying water for Trump as a Trump minion. Defending Trump on a message board is irrelevant now. He holds power. You help him exercise that power.

Cite?

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