If holding non-mainstream positions were the equivalent of being “a jackass”, most of the posters on this MB would qualify.
Oy. You think he’s a Trump supporter? Only in the sense that: The first rule of Trump opponents is to never defend Trump against any charge, even if the charge is not true.
Are you supposing that I support Trump now?
I’m getting the sense that for some folks on this MB, it’s not enough to oppose Trump. You must swear a “loyalty oath” to never correct anyone if they say something negative about Trump even if that thing is factually incorrect. The irony burns.
I apologize. There’s something that rubs me the wrong way about Bricker’s narrow, legalistic focus on whether what Trump did is technically illegal. To quote David Frum, a conservative critic of Trump:
If you follow the flow of the entire thread, you’ll see you’re missing something. We can think something is wrong, bad, terrible, even impeachable, but acknowledge that it’s not illegal. And that something might be impeachable, in theory, but won’t happen under the present circumstances.
Under our present Congress, sadly it’s unlikely. Unless there’s a video of Vladimir Putin personally handing Trump a giant sack of money with a dollar sign on it. Even, then, probably not. :smack:
This is essentially what I have been saying.
I can write a great wall of text that consumes 100 hours of my time, or I can very easily sum up her characteristics by writing “the evil bitch Hillary.” There’s no reason to parrot the hundreds of points that contribute to that description.
I could also list 100 things wrong with the Idiot-in-Chief, but it’s a lot easier to write “Idiot-in-Chief.”
And while I know Gary Johnson had his faults, too, I can accept other people’s summations in lieu of reading the same details ad nauseum.
The thing is, the world isn’t coming to an end, despite who or who isn’t “carrying water” for our dear, esteemed POTUS, Mr. Donald something Trump.
This pit is for Jenny Beth Martin, leader of the the Tea Party Patriots:
Screw you for being just like Mike Pence. This ass wipe is telling people that spending cuts are going to help them because her dream boat, Loser Donald Trump, is going to fix everything and besides, you can just work harder to get yourself out of poverty.
There is a huge difference between calling someone an idiot and a bitch. An idiot is an actual thing, while a bitch is just an insult. It doesn’t actually tell us anything. You mention Trump’s an idiot, and we know pretty well what you’re talking about. The only people I’ve ever heard calling Clinton a bitch are misogynists, and I hope that’s not what you mean.
Unfortunately, I can’t think of any legitimate criticism of Clinton that would be fairly characterized as being a bitch. It would be a decent insult of Trump, but Clinton seems to mostly treat people well.
And, well, it is weird that you use “evil” for Clinton but not for Trump. No matter how evil you think Clinton is, Trump is objectively worse.
That’s where the whole “you are partly to blame for not trying to stop him” comes in. No, you’re not as bad as someone who voted for him. But you still failed to do anything that had an actual chance to stop him. And you had the ability.
And while the world isn’t ending, our democracy is in a bad place, if there is a president who seems to be above the law. Even if Trump himself doesn’t do anything, the lack of any ability to stop him means that the next guy can. Democracies fail if there ceases to be a check on their rule.
Just because the world isn’t ending doesn’t mean things aren’t bad. That’s why we want impeachment. That would fix the problem BEFORE it gets so bad that we can’t fix it.
I find myself agreeing with the spirit of David Frum’s remarks but I wanted to pick nits just a little and say that, speaking for myself, I have never advocated the impeachment of Trump merely for firing a director who embarrassed him or for firing a director because he can – he can do that. I don’t think that’s an impeachable offense. It’s terribly unwise and that kind of behavior will almost surely bite a president in the butt over the long term, but he’s clearly within his constitutional powers to do so. I don’t find fault with a partisan congress for huddling to protect a president who’s doing something that is merely unpopular or unwise.
But that’s not really what we’re talking about here. We’re talking about a president who may have removed public officials engaged in a criminal investigation, and who may have pressured others to report false information to the public – and we’re not even touching the many controversies involving emoluments. These are potentially serious violations of the Constitution and the laws under it. I will concede that at this point, the evidence is mostly coming from anonymous sources and we probably don’t have enough of it on the public record. But it certainly seems that it’s just a matter of time.
Moreover, investigations are still ongoing, which leaves open the possibility that we may see more obstruction in the future. It’s one thing to fire one appointee because he embarrassed a president. It’s quite another to fire him because he’s investigating whether laws were broken. And it would be on an entirely new plane if the president were to use his power to shut down investigations, fire anyone who pursues justice, and replaces him with cronies who swear allegiance – that’s getting into dictatorship territory. And the sad part is, right now, at present, I’ve seen no evidence that Republicans in congress are interested in stopping him. Obviously, they see Trump as their tool, and they believe they can use him to their benefit. They believe they can manage him and confront him if necessary, oblivious to just how powerful the Executive branch of office can be if abused.
Not “bitch”; “evil bitch.” There’s a difference in application. The male version would be “evil bastard.” The adjective separates their meaning from the common use of the word “bitch” and the male version “dick” or “asshole,” and the use of the latter two generally don’t raise suspicions of misandry.
I don’t think I’ve said anything about Trump – other than idiot – but the use of the descriptor “evil” when describing multiple people in the same context seems boring and uncreative.
The huge percentage of people who failed to vote are to blame, too, I suppose? And just what are we being “blamed” for? Simply living in a functioning democracy? We’re not all always enamored of the current person in office, but people of voting age are presumably adults and able to deal with it without "blaming” people for their own bad feelings.
I’m not sure what shithole you live in. I voted in my annual HOA meeting a couple of weeks ago. I’m happy with most of my county and district judges, with about half of the county commission, would prefer to lose my state representative, and overall satisfied with my governor. I’m not too favorable about my two senators, but at least they’re not an evil bitch and an evil bastard (there’s a happy, repetition of the word “evil” for you). The millage proposal I wanted won, and the one I wanted to fail failed. All and all, democracy in this country is still pretty damned good, and you have a real perspective problem if your sole and entire focus is on the one person in our government who has the least influence on your daily life.
You are either with us or against us, in our black and white world!
So then why do you use gendered insults for women (bitch) but not for men (idiot)? That’s what’s curious about it.
Ah, the old reversal. Never gets old. And it got AWOL Bush to dunk on veteran Kerry, too !
I’ve never gotten that sense. But then, I oppose Trump and our Randian Republican “friends”.
Did I miss the part where someone said something factually incorrect about Trump? If so, please enlighten me. If they were indeed wrong, I will be happy to stand up and say that this person was wrong.
I guess we have different senses. And I never said it was you. But apparently you didn’t read the OP of this thread. That’s a shame.
And it gave you a chance to drag the dead horse about Bush being AWOL out and beat on it some more, even though you know the story was bullshit from the word go.
Did my OP say something factually I correct? Apparently you didn’t read it. That’s a shame.
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I didn’t say you said it was me. I more or less asked if you were whining about something specific.