# If you are so concerned about Hell, how about you go check it out for yourselves?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 24, 2008, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-are-so-concerned-about-hell-how-about-you-go-check-it-out-for-yourselves/465027 "2008-09-24T17:53:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2008, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-are-so-concerned-about-hell-how-about-you-go-check-it-out-for-yourselves/465027/81 "2008-09-29T22:54:03Z")

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> [@fluiddruid](#):
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> I’ve seen him experiment once or twice with props. My memory is sketchy but he had a big ‘coloring book’ (more than one, actually, but I just saw one, as I recall) that was all about Mary Sue (or whomever) get an STD from getting drunk and sleeping with frat boys. Of course, it ended with her burning in Hell. He’d mimic storytime with children and invite the students to circle around to listen and look at the pictures.
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> I thought it was interesting that you didn’t like Cindy, his wife. As I recall she did not like to rub elbows with the ‘heathens’ much in person, so she was a bit cool-acting, though she was exceptionally nice to me online. We talked several times and she even invited me to come visit her family and stay at her house (!). I respectfully declined, but, I thought she was very sweet and nice.

The coloring book thing is hilarious!

My only experience with Cindy was in her public scream-preaching persona. Maybe if I’d dealt with her in another context, I would have had the same experience you did.

Incidentally, on one of my Jed encounters, he didn’t have his Bible (?!) and asked if anyone had one. I had my NASB handy & asked if that would do. (I figured him for a KJV Only guy) He said that was fine, found his passage, made his point, handed it back & thanked me.

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**Author:** ![NinjaChick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/71c47a/32.png) [@NinjaChick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NinjaChick)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2008, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-are-so-concerned-about-hell-how-about-you-go-check-it-out-for-yourselves/465027/82 "2008-09-29T23:21:25Z")

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> [@Will\_Repair](#):
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> The fact that you go to college and willingly, not only accept, but use the term “free speech zone” frightens me.

I was always under the impression that the only “free speech zone” that mattered was the one, you know, marked out by the borders of this nation.

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**Author:** ![Crocodiles\_And\_Boulevards](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@Crocodiles\_And\_Boulevards](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crocodiles_And_Boulevards)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2008, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-are-so-concerned-about-hell-how-about-you-go-check-it-out-for-yourselves/465027/83 "2008-09-29T23:48:07Z")

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> [@Will\_Repair](#):
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> The fact that you go to college and willingly, not only accept, but use the term “free speech zone” frightens me.

Well, hey, if you go to public school in the US, you don’t even have access to a “zone.” Such a zone at US universities is a traditional solution to the private/educational uses of the campus and is most often used for soap boxing.

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**Author:** ![Ro\_Carter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7feea3/32.png) [@Ro\_Carter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ro_Carter)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2008, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-are-so-concerned-about-hell-how-about-you-go-check-it-out-for-yourselves/465027/84 "2008-09-30T01:48:42Z")

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> [@Crocodiles\_And\_Boulevards](#):
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> Well, hey, if you go to public school in the US, you don’t even have access to a “zone.” Such a zone at US universities is a traditional solution to the private/educational uses of the campus and is most often used for soap boxing.

It’s actually a great way for the university to avoid dealing with disgruntled students/parents. It sounds very open minded, and gives them a way to corral most demonstrations/special interest groups/people that want to yell in a couple of designated spots where they and the crowds they generate can be easily monitored. The term “free speech zone” really means more of “demonstration zone” in practice. You are certainly allowed to express your viewpoint anywhere you want on campus, in whatever way you wish that doesn’t break any laws, but if you are going to do so in a way that is going to attract a crowd, they’d prefer you do it in one of their designated spots.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2008, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-are-so-concerned-about-hell-how-about-you-go-check-it-out-for-yourselves/465027/85 "2008-09-30T14:32:34Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> I remember several “brickyard preachers” from NCSU. One was a homeless guy named Samuel. He had long ratty hair and no shirt and just basically screamed all the time. He didn’t gesture with a bible or anything. He just stood there and ranted.
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> One time another brickyard preacher showed up, prattling away with his Jesus this and God that, when Samuel showed up next to him holding a dead chicken. While the other preacher was going a mile and minute, Samuel would occasionally pipe in with “God made all the animals” and “God made all the little birds.”

Hey! I remember Samuel. He was fun. I usually saw him outside the south entrance of the Free Expression Tunnel.

In fact - the dead bird incident sounds oddly familiar. When were you at State?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-are-so-concerned-about-hell-how-about-you-go-check-it-out-for-yourselves/465027/86 "2008-10-01T18:55:58Z")

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> [@Mollie\_Magill](#):
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> Hey! I remember Samuel. He was fun. I usually saw him outside the south entrance of the Free Expression Tunnel.
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> In fact - the dead bird incident sounds oddly familiar. When were you at State?

From 81-84.

That long ago? Feels like only yesterday. I still have nightmares about not being prepared for exams from that place.

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**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-are-so-concerned-about-hell-how-about-you-go-check-it-out-for-yourselves/465027/87 "2008-10-01T19:40:27Z")

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> [@friedo](#):
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> But will I be able to masturbate in Hell?

Yes, but the print is really tiny.

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