# If you cry over politics, you're a pansy.

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 6, 2008, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-cry-over-politics-youre-a-pansy/471394 "2008-11-06T01:47:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-cry-over-politics-youre-a-pansy/471394/41 "2008-11-06T03:31:39Z")

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> [@Interconnected Series of Tubes](#):
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> This is fucking rich. I’ll be saving this for future reference.

Careful, your veneer of cool-headed superior rationality is slipping.

> [@Interconnected Series of Tubes](#):
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> At least mine don’t have the quality of being hopelessly redundant.

Sorry to disillusion you, but there’s no shortage of pointless Pit threads mocking people just for having different feelings about a particular subject than the OP does. And yeah, they tend to be started by trolls.

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**Author:** ![BellRungBookShut-CandleSnuffed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bcef8e/32.png) [@BellRungBookShut-CandleSnuffed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BellRungBookShut-CandleSnuffed)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-cry-over-politics-youre-a-pansy/471394/42 "2008-11-06T03:32:01Z")

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TRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!

I think I stabbed you with a blessed sword in a room where bloodstains and deep scratches (perhaps made by an axe) mar the walls.  
whee, that was fun.

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-cry-over-politics-youre-a-pansy/471394/43 "2008-11-06T03:32:34Z")

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Wow, the definitive ruling from on high…an anonymous nobody on a message board. I’ll alert the press.

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**Author:** ![Interconnected\_Series\_of\_Tubes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/13edae/32.png) [@Interconnected\_Series\_of\_Tubes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Interconnected_Series_of_Tubes)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-cry-over-politics-youre-a-pansy/471394/44 "2008-11-06T03:33:15Z")

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> [@Fish](#):
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> But there are plenty of other good reasons to deem you a troll. The wild blue hair is a dead giveaway, for instance.
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> People cry. It happens. Deal with it, troll.

Oh, really? Like what?

I’ll wait while you scrounge through my post history to find something damning. Hey, this is like real politics! Don’t get all choked up, now.

Some people find the fanaticism surrounding politics absurd. Deal with it, highly respected member of the SDMB.

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**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-cry-over-politics-youre-a-pansy/471394/45 "2008-11-06T03:33:25Z")

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> [@Interconnected\_Series\_of\_Tubes](#):
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> Or a bullshitter.
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> So, either you’re a melodramatic asshole, or you really need to get a life. Maybe both.
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> This applies to pansies/melodramatic assholes on political talk shows, in real life, and those posting on message boards.

I remember three times as an adult when I cried ( there were more but these stand out):

1. When my son was born.

2. When the guy who fought next to me in Iraq killed himself.

3. Last night.

Do you really think I give one half of a flying fuck that some little Internet weenie who wants attention and does not understand the significance of what happened last night, calls me a pansy?

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**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-cry-over-politics-youre-a-pansy/471394/46 "2008-11-06T03:34:14Z")

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You know, I’m not gay either, but as soon as the GLBT community gains full equality, you can bet your ass that I’ll be crying over that as well. It has to do with humans overcoming a vast struggle and ending up triumphant against the odds. As **Oakminster** suggests, if you don’t understand that, I doubt there’s anything we could say to enlighten you.

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**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-cry-over-politics-youre-a-pansy/471394/47 "2008-11-06T03:35:03Z")

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> [@Interconnected\_Series\_of\_Tubes](#):
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> Or a bullshitter.
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> So, either you’re a melodramatic asshole, or you really need to get a life. Maybe both.
> 
> This applies to pansies/melodramatic assholes on political talk shows, in real life, and those posting on message boards.

I saw ninety year old African American men and women who weren’t allowed to vote as young adults crying because after decades of struggles that included incredible violence, they saw one of their own earn the trust and respect of the entire nation as their leader.

They cried for the millions of people who fought for that to happen, and I cried for them.

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**Author:** ![Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bc8723/32.png) [@Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fish)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-cry-over-politics-youre-a-pansy/471394/48 "2008-11-06T03:35:07Z")

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> [@Interconnected\_Series\_of\_Tubes](#):
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> Oh, really? Like what?

Wild blue hair? [Whoosh.](http://eatourbrains.com/EoB/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/troll.jpg)

If you can’t handle the fact that some people cry, then you’re just a fucking idiot. And a troll.

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**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-cry-over-politics-youre-a-pansy/471394/49 "2008-11-06T03:35:24Z")

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> [@Enderw24](#):
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> So no crying in politics, or in baseball. Got it.
> 
> What happens next season when Obama throws out the first pitch?

He knocks the Cubs out of the pennent race. 🙂

Oh and I didn’t cry, but I did get choked up and emotional. Does that make me a pansey or just grown up to be secure in my feelings and not an emotional cripple trying to make himself feel better by attacking others?

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**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-cry-over-politics-youre-a-pansy/471394/50 "2008-11-06T03:42:46Z")

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> [@Captain\_Amazing](#):
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> I wouldn’t say that if you cry over politics you’re a pansy (although it didn’t help Muskie). If you get choked up over the success or failure of a campaign that you’re not a part of (like some of the people who said they were getting nauseous watching election returns), you’re probably more emotionally invested in the race than is healthy, though.

I was part of Obama’s campaign. I donated money. I volunteered in a field office purely on principle, because he wasn’t going to win Utah, and I voted for the man. That was the brilliance of Obama’s campaign–he gave his supporters a sense of ownership of the White House again. And though I’m not in CA, I was part of the No On 8 campaign. I’m part of it because I’m an American and I care.

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-cry-over-politics-youre-a-pansy/471394/51 "2008-11-06T03:43:47Z")

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> [@Interconnected\_Series\_of\_Tubes](#):
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> Or a bullshitter.
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> So, either you’re a melodramatic asshole, or you really need to get a life. Maybe both.
> 
> This applies to pansies/melodramatic assholes on political talk shows, in real life, and those posting on message boards.

I am a moderate, realist, largely non-partisan. Not a pansy or a bullshitter. Not melodramatic, and I have a life. I almost cried during Obama’s speech last night. I think, had I been alone or with just my wife instead of in a room full of cheering people, I would have.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-cry-over-politics-youre-a-pansy/471394/52 "2008-11-06T04:03:11Z")

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> [@Interconnected\_Series\_of\_Tubes](#):
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> Deeming me a troll simply because I have a viewpoint you don’t agree with is a load of shit - and you know it.

I’ve disagreed with plenty of people without calling them trolls. I called you a troll because you dropped this idiotic post just do be a dick to people you don’t approve of.

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> Thanks for the drive-by psychoanalysis though.

That’s kind of a hypocritical thing to say given your OP, isn’t it?

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-cry-over-politics-youre-a-pansy/471394/53 "2008-11-06T04:05:02Z")

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Normally, I actually do believe there shouldn’t be any crying in politics. I was telling people the same thing Monday night.

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**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-cry-over-politics-youre-a-pansy/471394/54 "2008-11-06T04:06:47Z")

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I guess I’m a pansy. I cried when it became more and more clear that my right to be able to get married was being taken away.

But whatever, for something that dramatically and immediately has a negative effect on my life I’m willing to cry and be thought of as a pansy by some moron on a message board.

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**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-cry-over-politics-youre-a-pansy/471394/55 "2008-11-06T04:13:18Z")

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> [@Death\_of\_Rats](#):
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> He knocks the Cubs out of the pennent race. 🙂
> 
> Oh and I didn’t cry, but I did get choked up and emotional. Does that make me a pansey or just grown up to be secure in my feelings and not an emotional cripple trying to make himself feel better by attacking others?

I think if you just got choked up, it makes you a seedling. Or maybe a sprout.  
But keep watering your eyes, little one! And maybe you can grow a beautiful pansy of your own!

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**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-cry-over-politics-youre-a-pansy/471394/56 "2008-11-06T04:27:31Z")

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I was _numb_ for the last eight years, **Interconnected Series of Tubes**. I teared up but I didn’t cry. I wish I did cry. You wish you know why I cry.

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**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-cry-over-politics-youre-a-pansy/471394/57 "2008-11-06T04:38:24Z")

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> [@](#):
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> **Marley23** : Normally, I actually do believe there shouldn’t be any crying in politics. I was telling people the same thing Monday night.

Yeah, this wasn’t just politics. This was incredible and joyous history unfolding.

And for some of us children of the Sixties, this was Grant Park, Chicago – the perfect place to find political redemption.

– Just another Weeping Willow!

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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-cry-over-politics-youre-a-pansy/471394/58 "2008-11-06T04:39:18Z")

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So, an **Interconnected Series of Tubes** has been saying some pretty nasty things about people who cry over politics. And you know, I couldn’t agree with him more. I couldn’t disagree with you, I couldn’t agree with you more than the fact that people who cry over politics are the most patriotic people in America. My friends, I could not disagree with **ISOT** more.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-cry-over-politics-youre-a-pansy/471394/59 "2008-11-06T04:39:44Z")

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> [@Interconnected\_Series\_of\_Tubes](#):
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> have you perhaps noticed that thing sort of thing happens around here **all the time**? So, bite me.

My first point there: YES, I HAVE NOTICED THIS (or I wouldn’t have stated it, dumbass). As have many others on this board.

For the second point: Every human since the dawn of time; You, me, Jesus, Abraham, Mohammed and Krishna included, have done this. It’s an extremely common human action. I’m merely pointing it out, because we often don’t see that we’re guilty of the very thing we’re condemning in the other.

You make a point about how people get emotional about politics, yet you’re failing to see that you’re obviously very angry (and have proven it throughout the thread) over something that really has little to nothing to do with you. Simply because it makes you uncomfortable, whether you recognize that or not.

If you can’t grasp this and deal with it in a rational manner, then let me be the first to look at your Guest status, thnk back to many other like minded people who have passed through these gates, and say…

_Banned in 3…2…_

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-cry-over-politics-youre-a-pansy/471394/60 "2008-11-06T04:42:00Z")

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Some people are just broken.

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