# If you discover some new scientific or math thing, who are you supposed to contact? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [July 29, 2021, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-discover-some-new-scientific-or-math-thing-who-are-you-supposed-to-contact/947589 "2021-07-29T15:12:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2021, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-discover-some-new-scientific-or-math-thing-who-are-you-supposed-to-contact/947589/1 "2021-07-29T15:12:34Z")
Say you suddenly stumble across some huge scientific discovery one day, or find some new math theorem that’s as monumental as the Pythagorean Theorem. Who should you contact, to get your thing its proper attention, or to try to get yourself Nobel Prize’d/Fields Medal’d? ---
**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2021, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-discover-some-new-scientific-or-math-thing-who-are-you-supposed-to-contact/947589/2 "2021-07-29T15:25:23Z")
IMHO the likelihood that someone completely outside of any field or discipline cohort (academic/industry/etc), without existing contacts, making any kind of monumental discovery, is so vanishingly rare as to be non-existent. So, one would already have some contact with someone of note in the field to guide disseminating the information (or to steal the idea for themselves and disseminate). ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2021, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-discover-some-new-scientific-or-math-thing-who-are-you-supposed-to-contact/947589/3 "2021-07-29T15:35:44Z")
Start by going to someone in the appropriate department of your local university. There’s a high probability that your discovery is flawed, or long-known, or both, and they’ll likely be able to tell that. In the unlikely (but possible!) event that you do have something actually new, then they can help you clean it up and get it published in an appropriate journal. And yes, it does happen occasionally. IIRC, one of the key results in the theory of tesselations came from a stay-at-home mom with no particular math training, who liked to stare at the tile patterns on her floor and think about them. ---
**Author:** ![Schnitte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/schnitte/32/9033_2.png) [@Schnitte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Schnitte)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2021, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-discover-some-new-scientific-or-math-thing-who-are-you-supposed-to-contact/947589/4 "2021-07-29T15:44:39Z")
One field where amateurs still make significant contributions to the advancement of science is astronomy. Comets, for instance, are sometimes first spotted by hobby astronomers (and then get named after them); an example is Hyakutake of 1996. The discoverer, a Japanese hobbyist, reported it to a national observatory. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2021, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-discover-some-new-scientific-or-math-thing-who-are-you-supposed-to-contact/947589/5 "2021-07-29T15:49:47Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > Who should you contact, to get your thing its proper attention, or to try to get yourself Nobel Prize’d/Fields Medal’d? I know you’re being facetious, but I think it’s safe to say that anyone who gets a Nobel Prize or Fields Medal does so as a result of a lot of hard work, and not just stumbling across something. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2021, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-discover-some-new-scientific-or-math-thing-who-are-you-supposed-to-contact/947589/6 "2021-07-29T16:04:44Z")
> [@Schnitte](#): > > One field where amateurs still make significant contributions to the advancement of science is astronomy. Comets, for instance, are sometimes first spotted by hobby astronomers (and then get named after them); an example is Hyakutake of 1996. The discoverer, a Japanese hobbyist, reported it to a national observatory. With comets, though, it seems there is an [established process for notifying people](http://www.cbat.eps.harvard.edu/cbat.html). ---
**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2021, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-discover-some-new-scientific-or-math-thing-who-are-you-supposed-to-contact/947589/7 "2021-07-29T16:20:09Z")
You could see if you could get accepted into a Master’s program based upon your new found knowledge and then write a Thesis on your discovery. > **[What Is A Master’s Thesis? - GradSchoolHub](https://www.gradschoolhub.com/faqs/what-is-a-thesis/)** > > Get an answers the question: What is a Thesis? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2021, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-discover-some-new-scientific-or-math-thing-who-are-you-supposed-to-contact/947589/8 "2021-07-29T16:25:50Z")
I would check online first to see if anyone else has stumbled across the same “solution” and what the reaction was. ---
**Author:** ![Keeve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f07891/32.png) [@Keeve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Keeve)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2021, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-discover-some-new-scientific-or-math-thing-who-are-you-supposed-to-contact/947589/9 "2021-07-29T16:40:26Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > IIRC, one of the key results in the theory of tesselations came from a stay-at-home mom with no particular math training, who liked to stare at the tile patterns on her floor and think about them. Sounds like an interesting story. Any idea what her name was? ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2021, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-discover-some-new-scientific-or-math-thing-who-are-you-supposed-to-contact/947589/10 "2021-07-29T16:46:42Z")
Well, I don’t know about any of the big awards in my case I took my idea and commercialized it and build a company around it. About 5 years later I was talking to the head of a major research institute in my field and he offered to help me publish my idea in a major journal and we’re working on the article right now. ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2021, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-discover-some-new-scientific-or-math-thing-who-are-you-supposed-to-contact/947589/11 "2021-07-29T16:47:29Z")
> [@Keeve](#): > > Any idea what her name was? [Marjorie Rice](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marjorie_Rice). ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2021, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-discover-some-new-scientific-or-math-thing-who-are-you-supposed-to-contact/947589/12 "2021-07-29T16:48:11Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > tesselations came from a stay-at-home mom That was [Marjorie Rice](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marjorie_Rice). She learned about tesselations from reading Martin Gardner’s Mathematical Games column in _Scientific American_ and sent him her results. He passed them on to experts and wrote about her discoveries in one of his books. Note that tesselations are one of the extremely rare items in math that can be done without any “real” math. The experts could barely follow her work because she didn’t know the standard notation. Rice could easily have been dismissed because of that. There’s nobody like Gardner these days, somebody nationally famous for engaging in a massive correspondence with amateur enthusiasts. The best advice is that given by Chronos: go to the lowest level of local expert who will listen and have it work its way up. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2021, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-discover-some-new-scientific-or-math-thing-who-are-you-supposed-to-contact/947589/13 "2021-07-29T17:09:58Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > The experts could barely follow her work because she didn’t know the standard notation. Rice could easily have been dismissed because of that. And that’s part of what I was referring to when I mentioned that a professor could help you clean up your work for publication: They could help you put things into notation that others in the field would understand. ---
**Author:** ![Keeve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f07891/32.png) [@Keeve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Keeve)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2021, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-discover-some-new-scientific-or-math-thing-who-are-you-supposed-to-contact/947589/14 "2021-07-29T17:32:44Z")
thanks! ---
**Author:** ![peccavi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peccavi/32/388_2.png) [@peccavi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peccavi)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2021, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-discover-some-new-scientific-or-math-thing-who-are-you-supposed-to-contact/947589/15 "2021-07-29T17:56:25Z")
> [@Si\_Amigo](#): > > ou could see if you could get accepted into a Master’s program based upon your new found knowledge and then write a Thesis on your discovery. > > [What Is A Master’s Thesis? - GradSchoolHub](https://www.gradschoolhub.com/faqs/what-is-a-thesis/) [Brian Josephson](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Josephson) was just a graduate student when he published his prediction of what became known as Josephson tunneling in 1962. It was disputed by multi-Nobelist John Bardeen, but confirmed experimentally in 1963. He was awarded the Nobel prize for this prediction in 1973. It’s an astonishingly simple theoretical prediction. But at the time, everyone assumed the currents they were seeing were “super shorts”, not supercurrent tunneling. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2021, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-discover-some-new-scientific-or-math-thing-who-are-you-supposed-to-contact/947589/16 "2021-07-29T18:57:37Z")
Claude Shannon basically invented digital logic (with vacuum tubes) for his Master’s Thesis. As for the OP, I’d read papers in the field, then try to write the new discovery up as a paper, which will involve looking for prior work, and then take it to the local university.Nobody’s getting a Nobel Prize without publication. ---
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2021, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-discover-some-new-scientific-or-math-thing-who-are-you-supposed-to-contact/947589/17 "2021-07-29T19:41:30Z")
Ramanujan wrote to G.H. Hardy and his work (a body of work, not a single result) got him an invitation to Cambridge. There is at least one real life story (sorry, I have forgotten the name) that was like Good Will Hunting. A janitor saw a problem on a blackboard and solved it. If Fermat really had a valid proof (which I highly doubt) someone could rediscover it. The actual published argument would take me years to understand and cannot be discovered by an amateur. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2021, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-discover-some-new-scientific-or-math-thing-who-are-you-supposed-to-contact/947589/18 "2021-07-29T19:51:30Z")
> [@Hari\_Seldon](#): > > Ramanujan wrote to G.H. Hardy and his work (a body of work, not a single result) got him an invitation to Cambridge. IIRC, he wrote to several mathematicians, but Hardy was the only one who didn’t dismiss him as a crank. > [@Hari\_Seldon](#): > > There is at least one real life story (sorry, I have forgotten the name) that was like Good Will Hunting. A janitor saw a problem on a blackboard and solved it. You may be thinking of [George Dantzig](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Dantzig), but he was no janitor. > [@](#): > > Near the beginning of a class, Professor Neyman wrote two problems on the blackboard. Dantzig arrived late and assumed that they were a homework assignment. According to Dantzig, they “seemed to be a little harder than usual”, but a few days later he handed in completed solutions for both problems, still believing that they were an assignment that was overdue.[[4]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Dantzig#cite_note-mmp-4)[[6]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Dantzig#cite_note-snopes-6) Six weeks later, an excited Neyman eagerly told him that the “homework” problems he had solved were two of the most famous unsolved problems in [statistics](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statistics).[[2]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Dantzig#cite_note-JH05-2)[[4]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Dantzig#cite_note-mmp-4) He had prepared one of Dantzig’s solutions for publication in a mathematical journal.[[7]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Dantzig#cite_note-7) This story began to spread and was used as a motivational lesson demonstrating the power of positive thinking. Over time, Dantzig’s name was removed, and facts were altered, but the basic story persisted in the form of an [urban legend](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_legend) and as an introductory scene in the movie _[Good Will Hunting](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Will_Hunting)_ .[[6]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Dantzig#cite_note-snopes-6) ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2021, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-discover-some-new-scientific-or-math-thing-who-are-you-supposed-to-contact/947589/19 "2021-07-29T19:57:31Z")
> [@Hari\_Seldon](#): > > If Fermat really had a valid proof (which I highly doubt) someone could rediscover it. Fermat did have an actual proof… for the n=3 and n=4 cases. Which he went on to publish. Most likely, when he wrote his margin note, he was assuming that the same method would generalize to all n. When he later put in the work and discovered it didn’t, he published what he had, but never bothered to retract his margin note, because after all, it was just a margin note. ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2021, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-discover-some-new-scientific-or-math-thing-who-are-you-supposed-to-contact/947589/20 "2021-07-29T22:34:17Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > And that’s part of what I was referring to when I mentioned that a professor could help you clean up your work for publication: They could help you put things into notation that others in the field would understand. The professor in the case of Majorie Rice was [Doris Schattschneider](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doris_Schattschneider). I have met her and was awarded one of her books for my achievements as a mathematics undergrad. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-discover-some-new-scientific-or-math-thing-who-are-you-supposed-to-contact/947589.md?page=2)