"If you don't vote, you can't complain." What if...

Sure you can. Buyer’s remorse over the moron you elected is as American as apple pie & baseball :wink:

This is what I don’t understand about places like Australia where voting is manditory. You know for a fact that a sizable portion of the electorate are just picking a name at random so they can get out of there. How is this supposed to be an improvement over letting the people who don’t care just stay home?

Started a post but I’m just going to leave it at: there are a number of reasons why someone may not vote. I think mainly it’s because most people do not care enough about politics to make an informed decision to vote and don’t want to just pick randomly. And the people who don’t care enough to educate themselves typically don’t care enough to complain too much either, and if they do complain a lot, they’ll probably end up wanting to vote to change what they hate. So it’s not really a problem in my experience, and if it is, it’s a self correcting one.

There are a few problems with this sentiment. The first and most obvious is that sometimes not voting isn’t because someone is too lazy to participate, but exactly because they thought about the issues and candidates and chose not to vote. In my view, a thought out and deliberate non-vote is equivalent to voting in that regard.

Another problem is, what if someone isn’t voting because they have moral objections, and feel that voting, even if their guy doesn’t win, still lends legitimacy to a system they object to. In that sense, I’d say it’s difficult to say you’re upset about who won, and generally those types stick to more generalized objections about how the whole system is corrupt, but it’s still a deliberate non-vote for a thought out reason.

And maybe someone has other difficulties voting for whatever reason. Maybe they didn’t know enough ahead of time they’d have to work all day or would be out of the country and couldn’t get an absentee ballot. Maybe they’re just so busy they didn’t feel confident they were informed enough to reasonably choose between the candidates and obstained, but after someone get’s elected they learn more and dislike that person.

The only time I can really see this having any legitimacy is if someone is just flat lazy. They don’t learn about what’s going on, they don’t make an effort to vote or at least deliberately choose not to vote and it’s not because they’ve got other things going on. It’s the people who make no effort to learn about things, make no effort to change things, and then they catch wind of something just complain about it, but offer no insight into what solution would be better or make any other attempt to fix it. But, really, these types of people are often the least likely to give a crap even if things do suck, they just care about their own life, and may bitch about something when it affects that, but that’s about it.

So, yeah, frankly, it’s something I don’t hear much, and it’s usually from the same people who are all about getting people out to vote, then get upset if those people show an intention to vote for someone other than their candidate. It’s mostly a bunch of noise about an almost non-existent problem.

Non-voters have a right to complain.

The Last X number of elections in which I have voted have given me nothing but shit for a choice. Refusing to vote for the lesser of two horrible evils means that I have no right to speak? Think again, pal.

I pay taxes. I pay for the right to complain, and not vote.

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Date Posted: 08:19:52 01/27/13 Sun
Author: Mimi
Subject: CASH INTO YOUR PAYPAL ACCOUNT WITH JUST A FEW CLICKS

IT REALLY WORKS-IT’S NOT A SCAM – YOU NEED $6 / TIME / A COMPUTER

!!!QUICK MONEY!!! – FAST CASH
At first I thought this was too good to be true, how wrong I was!! I decided to give it a go, it was only 6 dollars so why not? Well I was astounded!! Money has, and still is coming to my account.

Ok this is all you need:

  1. An email address
  2. A PayPal account
  3. then POST,POST,POST,POST,POST,POST,…

Only hours after implementing this exact system I about fell out of my chair as money ACTUALLY started rolling in. I couldn’t believe it and for that reason, I became a believer in this system.?

WHAT IS IT?
The idea is that of a system that takes advantage of the power of compounding. And in a big way, let me tell you. First and foremost understand that there are countless spin-offs of this system that try to make a “quick buck” off of people. Long lists, the 5 & 10 dollar trees, the birthday systems, etc… Those spin-offs do make money because of the ease of implementation of this idea, but they do NOT use the compounding advantage. This system is THE legit and profitable one.

HERE IS HOW IT WORKS…
There is a list of 6 email addresses (you’ll see it as you read further). Each of these people has already taken part in this system.

When someone new comes along (such as yourself) he/she removes #1 off of the list, moves the other five email addresses up one position (i.e. #6 goes to #5, #5 to #4, etc.), and adds their PayPal email address in the 6 position.

This process is what develops the power of compounding.

The bottom line is this… Honesty and Integrity creates Profitability.
Following this EXACT process is what creates the money, and that is why this system has been raved about in the Altering the system creates weak results. The legality of this system comes from the idea that you are of course creating a mailing list, and a “service” is being provided (more on that later.) Now on to how your message creates BIG money…

INSTRUCTIONS:

STEP 1:
The first thing to do COPY, PASTE and SAVE this entire post in word or notepad on your computer so you can come back to it later.

After that, if you are not already a PayPal user you need to go to the PayPal website at https://www.paypal.com/ and SIGN UP.

To receive credit card payments from other people you must sign up for a PREMIER or BUSINESS account (not just a PERSONAL account). This is highly recommended to allow others easy payment options.

To place the initial $6 into your account, you will have to verify your bank account with PAYPAL (which may take a few days).

PAYPAL is 100% secure and is used by millions of people worldwide.

STEP 2:
Here is where the action occurs. Then next send a $1.00 payment to each of the 6 email addresses on the current list from your PayPal account. To do this quickly and successfully, follow these simple steps:

  1. Login to PayPal and click the “Send Money” tab near top of screen
  2. In the “Recipient’s Email” field type: the email address
  3. In the “Amount” field type: “1” (your $1.00 payment)
  4. In the “Category” field select: “Service” (Keeping it legal)
  5. In the “subject” field type: “EMAIL LIST”,
  6. In the “message” field type: “PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR EMAIL LIST”.
    (By doing this, you are creating a service and maintaining the legality of the system by “paying” for the service. )
  7. Finally, click on the “Continue” button to complete the payment.
  8. Repeat these steps for each of the 6 email addresses. that’s it!

(By sending the $1.00 payment to each address, you are implementing
the compounding POWER of the system. You will reap what you sow! )

Here is the current e-mail list:

  1. fathe_byl@yahoo.com
  2. armoedz@gmail.com
  3. ibez@bigpond.com
  4. lawrence.a.spann@gmail.com
  5. melsott@hotmail.com
  6. mattias__ohlin@hotmail.se

STEP 3:
Now take the 1st email off of the list that you see above (from your saved file), Move the other addresses up (6 becomes 5, 5 becomes 4, etc.) and add YOUR email address (the one used for your PayPal account) as number 6 on the list. This is the only part of the document that should be changed.
** Make sure to use the email address you registered with PayPal **

STEP 4 now post new file created in STEP 3 to at least 200 newsgroups or message boards. Keep in mind that there are tens of thousands of groups online!
All you need is 200, but remember the more you post the more money you make - as well as everyone else on the list!

I’ve began to see money roll in before I even hit 100 posts, but try to hit around 200 to allow maximum exposure. Use Netscape, Internet Explorer, Firefox, Safari, or whatever your internet browser is to search for various news groups, on-line forums, message boards, bulletin boards, chat sites, iscussions, discussion groups, on-line communities, etc.

For example?

Log on to any search engine like yahoo.com or google.com and type in a subject like ‘MILLIONAIRE MESSAGE BOARD’,MONEY MAKING DISCUSSIONS’, ‘MONEY MAKING FORUMS’, or ‘BUSINESS MESSAGE BOARD’, etc. You will find thousands and thousands of message boards. Click them one by one and you will find the option to post a new message. Fill in the subject which will be the header that everyone sees as they scroll through the list of postings in a particular group, and post the article with the NEW list of email addresses included. THAT’S IT!!! All you have to do is jump to different newsgroups and post away. After you get the hang of it, it will take about 30 seconds for each newsgroup.

HOW THE MONEY WORKS
:
When you post 200 messages in various forums, it is estimated that at LEAST 15 people will respond and send you a $1.00 ($15.00). Those 15 will Post 200 Posts each and 225 people send you $1.00
($225.00), etc. through 6 levels of email addresses. For comprehension purposes, here is an easy viewing chart:

  1. 15(1) = 15 people ($1) = $15
  2. 15(15) = 225 people ($1) = $225
  3. 15(225) = 3375 people ($1) = $3375
  4. 15(3375) = 50625 people ($1) = $50625
  5. 15(50625) = 759375 people ($1) = $759375

As you can see, your message has multiplied exponentially. What other opportunity that is as simple as this can cash in the way this can?! I’m not going to say this is going to make everyone over $800,000, but within a few WEEKS you begin to see results, thanks to the speed of the internet!

When your name is no longer on the list, take the latest posting in the newsgroups and begin the process again. Simply amazing…Follow the system as described, and enjoy your PROFITS!!!

REMEMBER… HONESTY AND INTEGRITY = PROFITABILITY YOUR NAME COULD CYCLE FOR A LONG TIME!

Good luck!

HOW TO POST TO NEWS GROUPS?
Use Netscape or Internet Explorer and try searching for various newsgroups (on-line forums, message boards, chat sites, discussions.)

Log on any search engine like yahoo.com, google.com, altavista.com, excite.com, etc. Search with the subject "millionaire message board; or; money making message board; or; employment message board; or making money discussions; or; money making forum; or; business message board; etc. You will find thousands & thousands of message boards.

Click on them one by one and you will find the option ‘post a new message’.

Then Post this article as a ‘new message’ by highlighting the text of this letter and selecting copy then paste from the edit menu.

Fill in the Subject, this will be the header that everyone sees as they scroll through the list of postings in a particular group, click the post message button.

You’re done with your first one! It only takes about 60 seconds to complete postings on message boards
after you catch on.

REMEMBER, THE MORE NEWSGROUPS YOU POST IN, THE MORE MONEY YOU WILL MAKE!! !!!GOOD LUCK!!

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Re: CASH INTO YOUR PAYPAL ACCOUNT WITH JUST A FEW CLICKS – THABI LINDIWE MOHANOE (sad), 00:43:50 05/21/13 Tue
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Re: CASH INTO YOUR PAYPAL ACCOUNT WITH JUST A FEW CLICKS – jutt sohail (sad), 07:52:45 09/27/13 Fri
Re: CASH INTO YOUR PAYPAL ACCOUNT WITH JUST A FEW CLICKS – Lolla, 14:55:33 07/31/13 Wed
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IMO, the ones who should not complain are the ones who voted for the problem person, WHEN they were told before the election that this very thing that they are complaining about would happen, told by very smart & knowledgeable people.

When a person votes for a ( whatever ) knowing that along with the good, there will be some very bad, then you are being complicit IMO.

Need to be specific, not just general side VS general side.

Voting for the lesser of two evils is a cop out IMO.

If you are ACTIVELY & PUBLICLY working to get the system changed, ( like to the Aussi one for example or a ( ‘None of the above’ . ) option, then IMO you7 are better than 99% of most citizens.

Me personally, I don’t care much. If you get in a bind because of what / who you voted for, with the foreknowledge that is was VERY likely to happen, I personally will not help you at all.

Only natural resource this planet has too much of is people.