# "If you elect Biden, he'll listen to the Scientists!" **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 19, 2020, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-elect-biden-hell-listen-to-the-scientists/923323 "2020-10-19T13:16:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2020, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-elect-biden-hell-listen-to-the-scientists/923323/21 "2020-10-19T18:31:01Z")
> [@TheCuse](#): > > > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > > > Ronald Reagan said facts are stupid things back in 1988. > > And it was a slip of the tongue and he immediately corrected himself: > _“Facts are stupid things – stubborn things, should I say._ [Laughter].” > > I believe he was trying to paraphrase John Adams. Reagan was quoting Adams. Adams said _“Facts are stubborn things. They cannot be altered by our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions.”_ Yes, I was aware of Reagan’s real quote. But I’m one of those people who believes that “facts are stupid things” is a more accurate motto for the Reagan administration. Reagan delivered that speech in 1988 and he was claiming he had led an economic recovery in his eight years in office. Which wasn’t true; Reagan had simply created the illusion of a healthy economy by borrowing massive amounts of money. He papered over the problem rather than fixing it. Reagan’s government policies had embraced the idea of living in a make-believe world. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2020, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-elect-biden-hell-listen-to-the-scientists/923323/22 "2020-10-19T19:04:27Z")
[Trump Accuses New Zealand’s Prime Minister of Competently Handling the Coronavirus to Get Reelected](https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-accuses-new-zealands-prime-minister-of-competently-handling-the-coronavirus-to-get-reelected?fbclid=IwAR0bXQ9EkmNcmfUWyhpix_ggrbIdSRRIoPS0UyZrrMqTiUlijTzEvgldpxM) Speaking at a rally in Wisconsin, Trump called Ardern’s use of public-health measures to mitigate the impact of the coronavirus on her nation “a sleazy political move like you wouldn’t believe.” > “This woman wanted to get reëlected, so she decided to go after the coronavirus and beat it,” he said. “This woman is a disgrace.” ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2020, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-elect-biden-hell-listen-to-the-scientists/923323/23 "2020-10-19T19:04:33Z")
I wrote this in the Clusterfuck thread, but it goes well here: When science is outlawed, only outlaws will have science. ETA: > [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Trump Accuses New Zealand’s Prime Minister of Competently Handling the Coronavirus to Get Reelected . . . and you don’t want THAT to happen! 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2020, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-elect-biden-hell-listen-to-the-scientists/923323/24 "2020-10-19T19:08:04Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Trump Accuses New Zealand’s Prime Minister of Competently Handling the Coronavirus to Get Reelected The only conclusion I can draw from this is that Trump does not want to get reelected. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2020, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-elect-biden-hell-listen-to-the-scientists/923323/25 "2020-10-19T19:10:44Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > “This woman wanted to get reëlected, so she decided to go after the coronavirus and beat it,” he said. “This woman is a disgrace.” You guys realize that the article was satire uh? Or I’m being whooshed? ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2020, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-elect-biden-hell-listen-to-the-scientists/923323/26 "2020-10-19T19:10:47Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > “This woman wanted to get reëlected, so she decided to go after the coronavirus and beat it,” he said. “This woman is a disgrace.” In contrast, Trump decides his best strategy is to court the Coronavirus vote (someone told him that viruses vote, and there are lots of them), thereby killing off as many voters as possible. But in a stunning mis-fire the likes of which only Trump can do, he mostly kills off would-be Republican voters. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2020, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-elect-biden-hell-listen-to-the-scientists/923323/27 "2020-10-19T19:11:56Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > You guys realize that was satire uh? Or I’m being whooshed?. What? Andy Borowitz writes satire? Who knew? \< sarcasm\> ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2020, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-elect-biden-hell-listen-to-the-scientists/923323/28 "2020-10-19T19:12:27Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > You guys realize that was satire uh? Or I’m being whooshed? No, we don’t realize this at all. It is decidedly plausibly Trumpian. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2020, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-elect-biden-hell-listen-to-the-scientists/923323/29 "2020-10-19T19:12:38Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > > [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > > > “This woman wanted to get reëlected, so she decided to go after the coronavirus and beat it,” he said. “This woman is a disgrace.” > > You guys realize that was satire uh? Or I’m being whooshed? I got that it was satire, but his real-life statements (like Biden will listen to the scientists!) are so off the wall that it can be hard to tell. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2020, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-elect-biden-hell-listen-to-the-scientists/923323/30 "2020-10-19T19:13:38Z")
" People say satire is dead. It’s not dead; it’s alive and living in the White House.” ― Robin Williams ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2020, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-elect-biden-hell-listen-to-the-scientists/923323/31 "2020-10-19T19:14:56Z")
Yeah I know, it is kinda sad that when one is in a message board that looks for accuracy that we can’t have a nice rumor against an enemy going for weeks or even years. [Looks frowning against several members that swallow conspiracy fodder and post it here.] 😒 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2020, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-elect-biden-hell-listen-to-the-scientists/923323/32 "2020-10-19T19:17:27Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > it is kinda sad that when one is in a message board that looks for accuracy that we can’t have a nice rumor against an enemy going for weeks or even years. In the Pit, all things are possible. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2020, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-elect-biden-hell-listen-to-the-scientists/923323/33 "2020-10-19T19:23:26Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > I wrote this in the Clusterfuck thread, but it goes well here: > > When science is outlawed, only outlaws will have science. Vote the Lex Luthor/Victor von Doom ticket for 2020! We’re Evil, but we have Science! ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2020, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-elect-biden-hell-listen-to-the-scientists/923323/34 "2020-10-19T19:25:51Z")
Hell, at this point, I’d vote for the Doofenschmirtz/Evil ticket over what we have now. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2020, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-elect-biden-hell-listen-to-the-scientists/923323/35 "2020-10-19T19:31:58Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > Vote the Lex Luthor/Victor von Doom ticket for 2020! > > We’re Evil, but we have Science! Count me in! Where do I sign up? BTW: This reminds me: Remember Acting AG Matthew Whitaker? An absolute precise image of Lex Luthor! ( [Photo.](https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2018/11/26/USAT/28b4dbbc-5c35-4867-8575-ad5a4999686a-AFP_AFP_1AY8MK.JPG?width=540&height=&fit=bounds&auto=webp) ) ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2020, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-elect-biden-hell-listen-to-the-scientists/923323/36 "2020-10-19T19:48:28Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Has anyone ever questioned Savage about why he adopted such an anti-scientific slogan? He was quoting [The Dungeonmaster](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dungeonmaster). ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2020, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-elect-biden-hell-listen-to-the-scientists/923323/37 "2020-10-19T21:04:53Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > They would have canceled it because of the firmament or something. Come on man, you know it would have been because it would have disturbed the luminiferous æther! ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2020, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-elect-biden-hell-listen-to-the-scientists/923323/38 "2020-10-19T21:09:29Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > > > Has anyone ever questioned Savage about why he adopted such an anti-scientific slogan? > > He was quoting [The Dungeonmaster](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dungeonmaster). That doesn’t answer why Savage chose to adopt the slogan. It’s at odds with his general promotion of the scientific method. ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2020, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-elect-biden-hell-listen-to-the-scientists/923323/39 "2020-10-19T21:15:51Z")
It was a joke. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2020, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-elect-biden-hell-listen-to-the-scientists/923323/40 "2020-10-19T21:20:35Z")
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