# "If you ignore the Evilness, it's hilarious." **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [September 7, 2010, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-ignore-the-evilness-its-hilarious/552952 "2010-09-07T18:24:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2010, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-ignore-the-evilness-its-hilarious/552952/1 "2010-09-07T18:24:40Z")
In this [CS thread “Donating Racist Books”](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=577376) I said of The Turner Diaries- “Like a Manson interview, if you ignore the Evilness, it’s hilarious.” So what things would you find horrifying, evil or just offensive, but because of some other factor, you find entertaining… and why? Movies with over-the-top brutality btw sometimes qualify- Pulp Fiction, Natural Born Killers, and the granddaddy A Clockwork Orange. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2010, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-ignore-the-evilness-its-hilarious/552952/2 "2010-09-07T18:30:03Z")
Eat the Poo Poo. (ETA: At work. Will not provide link.) ---
**Author:** ![Blut\_Aus\_Nord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Blut\_Aus\_Nord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blut_Aus_Nord)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2010, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-ignore-the-evilness-its-hilarious/552952/3 "2010-09-07T18:48:39Z")
“The world is a tragedy to those who feel, but a comedy to those who think.” - Horace Walpole ---
**Author:** ![Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/earl_snake-hips_tucker/32/3269_2.png) [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_Snake-Hips_Tucker)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2010, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-ignore-the-evilness-its-hilarious/552952/4 "2010-09-07T18:54:06Z")
I thought Floyd Mayweather’s recent rant about Manny Pacquiao was pretty funny. And I still find Rosanne’s rendition of “The Star Spangled Banner” hysterical. Oh, and a significant number of things people rant about in The Pit are things I personally laugh at. ---
**Author:** ![Canadjun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/76d3ee/32.png) [@Canadjun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Canadjun)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2010, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-ignore-the-evilness-its-hilarious/552952/5 "2010-09-07T22:17:39Z")
Westboro Baptist Church, w w w . g o d h a t e s f a g s . c o m . Fred Phelps is so rabidly anti-gay (and anti- a few other things, but they are drowned out by the anti-gaity) that I find his web site amusing and check it fairly often just to see if he has said something else goofy. If he weren’t quite so rabidly anti-gay he might actually be dangerous. ---
**Author:** ![Electric\_Warrior](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@Electric\_Warrior](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Electric_Warrior)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2010, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-ignore-the-evilness-its-hilarious/552952/6 "2010-09-08T00:04:39Z")
Well, Borat. In character, Baron-Cohen destroys property, exploits people, and does all manner of reprehensible things, but it’s still a pretty funny movie. ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2010, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-ignore-the-evilness-its-hilarious/552952/7 "2010-09-08T00:12:02Z")
Certain white-supremacist message boards, where they fling the racially oriented poo with hardly a care for how much gets on theirownselves. ---
**Author:** ![Maiira](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f04885/32.png) [@Maiira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maiira)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2010, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-ignore-the-evilness-its-hilarious/552952/8 "2010-09-08T01:17:13Z")
Fred Phelps had a newscast-type video that someone put up on YouTube in the comedy section where the main message was “the earth is TOAST.” After he said this, a picture of toast appeared in the corner of the screen. My friends and I all busted out laughing. We also refer to table salt in restaurants as “Lot’s Wife,” because of that same video. There was a bit where Phelpsie recalled how Lot’s wife was turned into a pillar of salt after befriending and pitying teh gheyz. Honestly, sometimes I can’t understand why these folks are taken so seriously. (Well, okay, I guess there’s the whole “marching at funerals” thing.) They’re too ridiculous for words. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2010, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-ignore-the-evilness-its-hilarious/552952/9 "2010-09-08T01:48:33Z")
Chick tracts. ---
**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2010, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-ignore-the-evilness-its-hilarious/552952/10 "2010-09-08T03:15:41Z")
_Battle Royale_ The first time I tried watching it, I couldn’t get through the first half hour. The second time, I watched it all the way through and loved it. ---
**Author:** ![emacknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ec8ea/32.png) [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2010, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-ignore-the-evilness-its-hilarious/552952/11 "2010-09-08T03:16:47Z")
US health care and the fight over it’s control. People are going bankrupt and dying, but it’s all just a big game to win elections. Kind of funny if you’re not sick and have good health care. ---
**Author:** ![emacknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ec8ea/32.png) [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2010, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-ignore-the-evilness-its-hilarious/552952/12 "2010-09-08T03:18:05Z")
Oh, and chiropractic medicine. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2010, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-ignore-the-evilness-its-hilarious/552952/13 "2010-09-08T04:02:15Z")
HP Lovecraft. There’s an unfortunate amount of racism in his works. ---
**Author:** ![Maiira](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f04885/32.png) [@Maiira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maiira)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2010, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-ignore-the-evilness-its-hilarious/552952/14 "2010-09-08T04:29:54Z")
Oh, hey, I forgot one: _American Psycho_. The entire movie. The business card scene in particular had me in stitches. I saw it with one group of friends and we were all laughing so hard we were crying. Then I watched it with another group of friends, and they all looked at me funny because I was the only one laughing. (And something I found distinctly ironic: the group of friends that laughed at the film? All girls. The group of friends that looked at me funny? All dudes. Maybe that just says something about my friends.) I have heard it argued that _American Psycho_ is actually supposed to be considered funny, though, so…_shrug_ ---
**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2010, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-ignore-the-evilness-its-hilarious/552952/15 "2010-09-08T06:07:30Z")
Very hard to ignore the genuine evil, what with so many lives being destroyed so capriciously, but there certainly is a ridiculous element to the [McMartin preschool trial](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McMartin_preschool_trial) and similar witch hunts of the late 1980s. Heck, any witch hunt – literal or metaphorical – has a hilarious element. During the McCarthy hearings and the dig at Roy Cohn, “a close relative of a fairy” comes to mind. ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2010, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-ignore-the-evilness-its-hilarious/552952/16 "2010-09-08T18:16:09Z")
I second the Turner Diaries. It’s a must read. Half of it is actually a fairly entertaining account of how an underground guerrilla group might overthrow the US government. The other half is the most evil, racist fantasy wish fulfillment you’ll ever read, to such an extent that it crosses the line twice. The Day of the Rope section was almost gleeful. They trigger a nuclear holocaust of most of the human race and it’s all good, as long as the whites are left standing. But sprinkled around the narrative are gut busting asides or plot points. Like…The System has become more inefficient and corrupt due to widespread integration, especially among police and military. There are tons of scenes where they sneak past inattentive or sleeping black guards. The courts rule that prosecuting rape is racist and sexist. So after that black people will either rape an unattended white woman on sight or try to put his hand up her skirt while white people sit around and watch, afraid of intervening and becoming a racist. Several plot points revolve around this, including the death of a major character. After The System begins to break down black people become cannibals, mostly targeting white people. In 3 different scenes our protagonists have to imitate blacks, Jews, and Mexicans. The dialogue is face palm worthy. After California is freed all the minorities are rounded up and…not killed, surprisingly. Instead they’re marched onto the rest of the U.S. as a bio-weapon. The author laughs because the System’s views on “equality” will be their own downfall. There are several scenes during the liquidation process where they don’t know what to do with the mongrels. Those swarthy types with frizzy hair. There’s millions of them! Lots of hand wringing ensues, but eventually they’re all shot. Better safe than sorry, after all. Oh yeah, and Jews are the master control race who use other minorities as a biological weapon against their only adversary for worldwide domination, white people. Did you know the women’s lib movement was led by Jewesses trying to cause a civil war among whites? Jews are also behind all laws making minorities equal with whites. And they tricked the U.S. into going to war with Germany, who finally figured out what had to be done. And so on. Then there are passages like these… > [@](#): > > My most profound impression comes from the fact that every face I saw in the fields was White: no Chicanos, no Orientals, no Blacks, no mongrels. The air seems cleaner, the sun brighter, life more joyous. What a wonderful difference this single accomplishment of our revolution has made. > > And the workers all feel the difference too, whether they are ideologically with us or not. There is a new feeling of solidarity among them, of kinship, of unselfish cooperation to complete a common task. > [@](#): > > Katherine was full of questions about what life is like in the liberated zone, and I tried to tell her as best I could, but I am afraid that mere words are inadequate for expressing the difference between the way I felt in California and the way I feel here. It is more a spiritual thing than merely a difference in the political and social environments. > > As we stood there talking above the swirling eddies at the end of the bridge, our bodies pressed together, the world growing dark around us, a group of young Negroes came out onto the other stump of the bridge, from the Washington side. They began horsing around in typical Negro fashion, a couple of them urinating into the river. Finally one of them spotted us, and they all began shouting and making obscene gestures. For me, at least, that accentuated the difference which I could not find words to express. > [@](#): > > Meanwhile, it was with a feeling of deepest despair that I and half-a-dozen others who were gathered around the television set in the darkened basement of the gift shop late that night heard a newscaster gloatingly announce the destruction of our liberated zone in California. He was a Jew, and he really let his emotions carry him away; I have never before heard or seen anything like it. > > After a solemn rundown of most of the cities which had been hit that day, with preliminary estimates of the death tolls (sample: “. . . and in Detroit, which the racist fiends struck with two of their missiles, they murdered over 1.4 million innocent American men, women, and children of all races . . .”), he came to New York. At that point tears actually appeared in his eyes and his voice broke. Between sobs he gasped out the news that 18 separate nuclear blasts had leveled Manhattan and the surrounding boroughs and suburbs out to a radius of approximately 20 miles, with an estimated 14 million killed outright and perhaps another five million expected to die of burns or radiation sickness within the next few days. Then he lapsed into Hebrew and began a strange, wailing chant, as tears streamed down his cheeks and his clenched fists pounded his breast. > > After a few seconds of this he recovered, and his demeanor changed completely. Anguish was replaced first by a burning hatred for those who had destroyed his beloved, Jewish New York City, then by an expression of grim satisfaction which gradually turned into an exultant gloating: “But we have taken our vengeance against our enemies, and they are no more. Time and again, throughout history, the nations have risen up against us and tried to expel us or kill us, but we have always triumphed in the end. No one can resist us. All those who have tried Egypt, Persia, Rome, Spain, Russia, Germany - have themselves been destroyed, and we have always emerged triumphant from the ruins. We have always survived and prospered. And now we have utterly crushed the latest of those who have raised their hands against us. Just as Moshe smote the Egyptian, so have we smitten the Organization.” His tongue flickered wetly over his lips and his dark eyes gleamed balefully as he described the hail of nuclear annihilation which he said had been unleashed on California that very afternoon: “Their precious racial superiority did not help them a bit when we fired hundreds of nuclear missiles into the racist stronghold,” the newscaster gloated. “The White vermin died like flies. We can only hope they realized in their last moments that many of the loyal soldiers who pressed the firing buttons for the missiles which killed them were Black or Chicano or Jewish. Yes, the Whites and their criminal racial pride have been wiped out in California, but now we must kill the racists everywhere else, so that racial harmony and brotherhood can be restored to America. We must kill them! Kill them! Kill! Kill! . . .” > > Then he lapsed into Hebrew again, and his voice became louder and harsher. He stood up and leaned into the camera, an incarnation of pure hatred, as he shrieked and gibbeted in his alien tongue, gobs of saliva flying from his mouth and dribbling down his chin. > > This extraordinary performance must have been embarrassing to some of his less emotional brethren, because he was suddenly cut off in mid-shriek and replaced by a Gentile, who continued to give out revised casualty estimates into the early hours of the morning. He just kept topping himself. I couldn’t put it down. ---
**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2010, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-ignore-the-evilness-its-hilarious/552952/17 "2010-09-08T19:07:18Z")
Kim Jong-il. I was the target age for Team America: World Police and the South Park parodies. I just want to laugh at the absurdity of this old man who dresses like an old grandpa with huge sunglasses. But then I remember that, you know, he’s committed horrible atrocities. Any movie with Hitler having a meltdown and screaming at people makes me want to laugh too. It’s always like horrible overacting, but it’s based on him. So yeah, nutcase dictators. Evil but sometimes amusing. ---
**Author:** ![Rocketeer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocketeer/32/4437_2.png) [@Rocketeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rocketeer)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2010, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-ignore-the-evilness-its-hilarious/552952/18 "2010-09-08T20:19:18Z")
> [@marshmallow](#): > > …Then there are passages like these… > > > [@](#): > > > > … > > Then he lapsed into Hebrew again, and his voice became louder and harsher. He stood up and leaned into the camera, an incarnation of pure hatred, as he shrieked and gibbeted in his alien tongue, gobs of saliva flying from his mouth and dribbling down his chin. > > He just kept topping himself. I couldn’t put it down. “Gibbeted”? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2010, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-ignore-the-evilness-its-hilarious/552952/19 "2010-09-08T20:43:39Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > HP Lovecraft. There’s an unfortunate amount of racism in his works. HP Lovecraft certainly packs on the purple prose, but I never really thought of his stuff as _hilarious_. Edit: I see the OP was talking about being entertaining, generally. My mistake! Though I suppose to some, the description of unspeakable horrors can be pretty funny. ---
**Author:** ![ITR\_champion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c67d28/32.png) [@ITR\_champion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ITR_champion)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2010, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-ignore-the-evilness-its-hilarious/552952/20 "2010-09-08T21:13:33Z")
> [@FriarTed](#): > > So what things would you find horrifying, evil or just offensive, but because of some other factor, you find entertaining… and why? [The Fifth Sorceress, by Robert Newcomb](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=195967), meets this description to a t. It’s nominally a “fantasy novel”, in reality about 500 pages of violent, misogynistic pornography mixed with 200 pages of fourth rate Tolkien-ripoff plot. Women enjoy commiting rape, mass-murder, and torture, while men are hapless victims. And I can’t shake a nagging suspicion that the author meant it to be taken seriously. Nonetheless it’s hilarious and I recommend it to any adult who wants a good laugh. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-ignore-the-evilness-its-hilarious/552952.md?page=2)