# If you like hate'n on Sarah Palin, boy have I got the link for you! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [November 9, 2013, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-like-haten-on-sarah-palin-boy-have-i-got-the-link-for-you/673517 "2013-11-09T17:08:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2013, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-like-haten-on-sarah-palin-boy-have-i-got-the-link-for-you/673517/1 "2013-11-09T17:08:38Z")
[One reporter’s critique on Sarah Palin’s latest book about the “war” on Christmas](http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/11/sarah-palin-war-christmas-book-good-tidings-great-joy.html) > [@](#): > > The book is part tribute to the joys of Christmas, part how-to guide for oppressed Christians looking for ways to fight back against whiny and litigious secularists, and part manifesto on the general superiority of Christianity over atheism. Bonus point: At the end of the article is an interactive Christmas tree alongside a Sarah Palin as the nutcracker. 😃 Go on, give it a try. It’s fun!! ETA: Looking back at the article, I don’t think she’s supposed to be the nutcracker, she’s just got a weird blocky face. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2013, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-like-haten-on-sarah-palin-boy-have-i-got-the-link-for-you/673517/2 "2013-11-09T18:15:09Z")
Thanks for the link, even though as it happens I prefer to forget she exists. Roddy ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2013, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-like-haten-on-sarah-palin-boy-have-i-got-the-link-for-you/673517/3 "2013-11-09T19:07:28Z")
> [@Shakes](#): > > Bonus point: At the end of the article is an interactive Christmas tree alongside a Sarah Palin as the nutcracker. 😃 > > Go on, give it a try. It’s fun!! :smack: Jesus fucking Christ she a syphilitic moron. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2013, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-like-haten-on-sarah-palin-boy-have-i-got-the-link-for-you/673517/4 "2013-11-09T19:20:00Z")
Holy crap! I started clicking at the top of the tree, got about halfway down, and had to close that page out!! I promise, from now on, I will do my part in helping to usher in her absence. Nevermore will I click to invoke! Be gone!! ---
**Author:** ![Foggy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foggy/32/1082_2.png) [@Foggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Foggy)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2013, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-like-haten-on-sarah-palin-boy-have-i-got-the-link-for-you/673517/5 "2013-11-09T22:01:10Z")
> [@](#): > > The logical result of atheism, a result we have seen right in front of our eyes in one of the world’s oldest and proudest nations, is severe moral decay. What nation is she talking about? ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2013, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-like-haten-on-sarah-palin-boy-have-i-got-the-link-for-you/673517/6 "2013-11-09T22:07:54Z")
> [@Foggy](#): > > What nation is she talking about? That was my favorite clip because it really does put the shine on how stupid she is. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2013, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-like-haten-on-sarah-palin-boy-have-i-got-the-link-for-you/673517/7 "2013-11-09T22:25:41Z")
> [@Foggy](#): > > What nation is she talking about? Yes, referring to the United States as one of the world’s oldest nations is pretty stupid even by her standards. Even Palin must have some dim awareness of European history and while she probably couldn’t tell you anything about them, I’m going to assume she’s aware of the existence of places like China, India, Japan, and Iran. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2013, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-like-haten-on-sarah-palin-boy-have-i-got-the-link-for-you/673517/8 "2013-11-10T01:17:06Z")
Well, I have heard others point out that the US has one of the oldest constitutions in the world. So if you’re only dating countries from when their current constitution was established, the US is actually older than most. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2013, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-like-haten-on-sarah-palin-boy-have-i-got-the-link-for-you/673517/9 "2013-11-10T01:28:59Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Well, I have heard others point out that the US has one of the oldest constitutions in the world. So if you’re only dating countries from when their current constitution was established, the US is actually older than most. That’s a very convenient benchmark to use. I say we measure the age of nations based on when they first acquired a president as head-of-state. My favorite of the quotes: “Atheism’s track record makes the Spanish Inquisition seem like Disneyland by comparison.” “So are you ready for some good, old-fashioned words? Here are some: work, honesty, courage, justice, thrift, perseverance.” “I bet Charles Darwin never understood this: If the world could be described as truly survival-of-the-fittest, why would people collectively be stricken with the spirit of generosity in December?” “Yet we can’t print enough currency, or food stamps, or free Obamaphone vouchers to compensate for failing families.” “Sadly, there are no Chick-fil-A restaurants in Alaska.” ---
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2013, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-like-haten-on-sarah-palin-boy-have-i-got-the-link-for-you/673517/10 "2013-11-10T01:29:41Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Holy crap! I started clicking at the top of the tree, got about halfway down, and had to close that page out!! I promise, from now on, I will do my part in helping to usher in her absence. Nevermore will I click to invoke! Be gone!! If we don’t review her books or don’t click on reviews of her books, she’ll go away faster. But the soundboard is pretty hilarious. If we want to keep her around just to point and laugh…i can see the value in that. And the more influence she has among conservatives, the less serious anyone takes them. So I’m OK with her hanging around. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2013, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-like-haten-on-sarah-palin-boy-have-i-got-the-link-for-you/673517/11 "2013-11-10T01:41:55Z")
> [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > “So are you ready for some good, old-fashioned words? Here are some: work, honesty, courage, justice, thrift, perseverance.” None of which, ironically, she exemplifies. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2013, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-like-haten-on-sarah-palin-boy-have-i-got-the-link-for-you/673517/12 "2013-11-10T01:44:17Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > . . . I’m going to assume she’s aware of the existence of places like China, India, Japan, and Iran. Why do you think so? Those aren’t the places she can see from her front porch. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2013, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-like-haten-on-sarah-palin-boy-have-i-got-the-link-for-you/673517/13 "2013-11-10T01:54:46Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Well, I have heard others point out that the US has one of the oldest constitutions in the world. So if you’re only dating countries from when their current constitution was established, the US is actually older than most. I’m sure that if this becomes an issue, there will be various ways people will spin what she said and claim she’s right. Of course, I’d point out that the United State’s current Constitution has only existed since 1992. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2013, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-like-haten-on-sarah-palin-boy-have-i-got-the-link-for-you/673517/14 "2013-11-10T02:00:02Z")
Note that I’m not a Sarah Palin fan, but am just pointing out the argument (which I may have read in a previous thread here). ---
**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2013, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-like-haten-on-sarah-palin-boy-have-i-got-the-link-for-you/673517/15 "2013-11-10T02:20:20Z")
Her “understanding” of evolution, as evidenced in this quote: > [@she who might have been VP!!](#): > > “I bet Charles Darwin never understood this: If the world could be described as truly survival-of-the-fittest, why would people collectively be stricken with the spirit of > generosity in December?” is about zero. By the way, do you know else interpreted Darwin this way? ETA" “Many on the left see faith and family as oppressive, but the right sees them as indispensable.” Good gawd! ---
**Author:** ![blindboyard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blindboyard/32/2833_2.png) [@blindboyard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blindboyard)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2013, 9:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-like-haten-on-sarah-palin-boy-have-i-got-the-link-for-you/673517/16 "2013-11-10T09:31:03Z")
How many countries are actually older than America? None in the Americas, I don’t think. None in Africa, with the exception of Ethiopia. Nothing in the former Ottoman or Soviet or Austro-Hungarian empires can be counted, except maybe Russia and Turkey. The USA isn’t the oldest, but it’s in the top 10% or so. One of the oldest, you might say. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2013, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-like-haten-on-sarah-palin-boy-have-i-got-the-link-for-you/673517/17 "2013-11-10T13:47:27Z")
> [@blindboyard](#): > > How many countries are actually older than America? None in the Americas, I don’t think. None in Africa, with the exception of Ethiopia. Nothing in the former Ottoman or Soviet or Austro-Hungarian empires can be counted, except maybe Russia and Turkey. The USA isn’t the oldest, but it’s in the top 10% or so. One of the oldest, you might say. It’s a tough question obviously. It depends of what you consider the existence of a country. Take Ireland, for example. Did it exist as a country before 1922? That’s when it became a sovereign nation but most people would accept the idea that there was a thing called Ireland that already existed before that. ---
**Author:** ![krunen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c37758/32.png) [@krunen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/krunen)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2013, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-like-haten-on-sarah-palin-boy-have-i-got-the-link-for-you/673517/18 "2013-11-10T14:03:12Z")
> [@blindboyard](#): > > How many countries are actually older than America? None in the Americas, I don’t think. None in Africa, with the exception of Ethiopia. Nothing in the former Ottoman or Soviet or Austro-Hungarian empires can be counted, except maybe Russia and Turkey. The USA isn’t the oldest, but it’s in the top 10% or so. One of the oldest, you might say. For me, this is wrong. The word “country” has many possible meanings, but I’d say the country of Egypt is about 5000 years old. On the other hand the modern nation of Egypt is only 60-something. My own country, Norway, is a thousand years old; but the modern nation is barely 100, or just short of 200, depending on definitions. The US has one of the oldest continuous government systems in the world. I’d stick to saying that, to avoid insulting almost everyone. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2013, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-like-haten-on-sarah-palin-boy-have-i-got-the-link-for-you/673517/19 "2013-11-10T14:45:44Z")
Obvious attention whore is obvious. ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2013, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-like-haten-on-sarah-palin-boy-have-i-got-the-link-for-you/673517/20 "2013-11-10T14:53:37Z")
> [@krunen](#): > > I’d stick to saying that, to avoid insulting almost everyone. That would be the point where your and Ms Palin’s agenda are in diametric divergence. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-like-haten-on-sarah-palin-boy-have-i-got-the-link-for-you/673517.md?page=2)