# If you liked this movie... you suck! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 16, 2002, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-liked-this-movie-you-suck/119219 "2002-07-16T10:57:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Sublight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Sublight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sublight)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2002, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-liked-this-movie-you-suck/119219/61 "2002-07-18T10:47:12Z")
As a James Bond fan, I found Austin Powers (I) to be a very funny parody for the most part. Austin Powers II, on the other hand, I thought was a waste, and I’ve seriously wondered about those who said they thought it was great. _Things to do in Denver when you’re Dead_ is another film whose fans I seriously wonder about. I’m not too serious about this one, however, since I enjoyed _Pulp Fiction_, which I know some people hate with a passion. I’ve concluded that our reasons for liking one and hating the other are probably similar. ---
**Author:** ![anya\_marie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ebca7d/32.png) [@anya\_marie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anya_marie)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2002, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-liked-this-movie-you-suck/119219/62 "2002-07-18T11:03:53Z")
You want to know why i hate _Austin Powers_ movies?!? Do you? Not toly is the Austin Powers the skeeziest, creepiest motherfucker EVER. Everyone who saw the movie had to do those lines in that grating voice, they also thought it was the funniest thng ever. And neither do I have a great voice, but it is improved by not braying lines from one of the suckiest movies EVER, at the top of my lungs. Other movies I have no intention of seeing ever, are HeartBreakers, Corky Romano, Serendipity, A Walk To Remember, The Crocodile Hunter and any of the Halloween movies. ---
**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2002, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-liked-this-movie-you-suck/119219/63 "2002-07-18T11:56:23Z")
Oh that’s a good reason to hate a movie, because a lot of people imitate the lead - why not despise them instead? 🙂 Easier, saves time… ---
**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2002, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-liked-this-movie-you-suck/119219/64 "2002-07-18T14:08:48Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by MyFootsZZZ \* > \*\*Rushmore was great \*\* Great crap, maybe. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![sirtonyh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ad7895/32.png) [@sirtonyh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sirtonyh)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2002, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-liked-this-movie-you-suck/119219/65 "2002-07-18T15:49:15Z")
Wow - I suck a whole lot more than I thought I did. Reading through the messages I see a bunch of movies I liked (either a whole lot or at least a bit) Dr T & The Women Rambo III Titanic Eyes Wide Shut 6th Day 5th Element Se7en (now this is a classic movie - easily as good as Silence of the Lambs in the serial killer genre Erin Brokovitch Me, Myself & Irene The Matrix Forrest Gump Phantom Menace When Harry Met Sally I own about 1/2 of these on DVD’s and at least 4 of them are bona-fide classics (then again, we already established I really, really suck so I could be wrong) And I can even see redeeming features in Armageddon. Not many admittedly, but there are a couple. ---
**Author:** ![Banger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@Banger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banger)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2002, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-liked-this-movie-you-suck/119219/66 "2002-07-18T16:04:07Z")
Independence Day. ---
**Author:** ![Doublemint](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5ac83/32.png) [@Doublemint](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doublemint)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2002, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-liked-this-movie-you-suck/119219/67 "2002-07-18T18:40:42Z")
## quote: Originally posted by WordMan Well, I’ll take what feels like a risk here: Se7en ## There, I said it. Right on, my brother. Although I usually extend my “you suck!” to people who write the title as anything other than “Seven,” I’ll make an exception here. Sometimes I feel like the only person in the world who recognized this entire movie as pretentious, manipulative tripe with paper-thin characters who exist only to be miserable, be killed, or both. Couldn’t agree more, guys, what a horrible, nasty, dreadful flick, I must now deny the existance of such other cinimatic grotequeries (is that a word) such as Aliens 3, any Highlander with a number after it, and Batman & Robin. ---
**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2002, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-liked-this-movie-you-suck/119219/68 "2002-07-18T18:46:02Z")
Still doesn’t mean that those who dared to enjoy it suck. ---
**Author:** ![Bumbazine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bumbazine/32/362_2.png) [@Bumbazine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bumbazine)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2002, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-liked-this-movie-you-suck/119219/69 "2002-07-19T01:20:25Z")
In my youth I spent a great deal of time trying to find girls who liked movies and sucked, so I don’t see your problem. Oh. Nevermind. ---
**Author:** ![Motog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85e7bf/32.png) [@Motog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Motog)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2002, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-liked-this-movie-you-suck/119219/70 "2002-07-19T04:27:09Z")
I also find it a bit hard to dislike people for their choices in movies but I make two exceptions to this: - Fatal Attraction. I found everything about this movie- the premise, the theme, the moral, the misogyny (sp?)- so thoroughly objectionable that I walked out and have since refused to watch any movie that has involved any of its main actors. I have found it difficult not to think less of people who express a like for it simply because I can’t help but see them as being a bit unintelligent \*Forrest Gump. A movie that tries to teach us that some sort of half-witted, wilfull ignorance is a good idea. Again, I found the theme and the moral of the story so objectionable that I can’t help but question the intelligence of those who liked it. I have been unable to watch anything with Tom Hanks in it since (though, come to think of it, I did watch Saving Private Ryan) These are not the movies I have disliked the most (I save that for Kevin Costner films) but the ones that have raised questions within me about people who like them. ---
**Author:** ![Motog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85e7bf/32.png) [@Motog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Motog)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2002, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-liked-this-movie-you-suck/119219/71 "2002-07-19T04:46:36Z")
Wait, wait. I just remembered a film from my youth that actually caused me to end a friendship! I went to a friend’s place one rainy Saturday to watch a few videos. One of them was called “Attack of the bloodsucking freaks” or something like that. It was about a circus (or something) that kidnapped young women and tortured then murdered them in a sort of snuff show. It was very graphic and very disgusting. I left the room after only a few minutes and refused to come back. My friend continued to watch it until he finally worked out that I really was disgusted by it. I went home shortly afterwards. Later I found that I was so repulsed by the fact that he apparently enjoyed what, to me, was the foulest thing I had ever seen, that I was never able to bring myself to talk to him again. ---
**Author:** ![Blalron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@Blalron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blalron)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2002, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-liked-this-movie-you-suck/119219/72 "2002-07-19T05:10:25Z")
I know a girl who calls “Armageddon”, “Dude where’s my car?”, and “Freddy Got Fingered” her favorite movies. ARGH! HOW BRAINLESS COULD YOU BE? ---
**Author:** ![Hallo\_Space\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Hallo\_Space\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hallo_Space_Girl)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2002, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-liked-this-movie-you-suck/119219/73 "2002-07-19T11:18:51Z")
I’m not sure if many people have seen this movie, but I raise an eyebrow to those who have seen it and like it (not that I’ve met any). “Reanimator”, which is based on the novel by H.P. Lovecraft was so horrible. The effects were terrible and the plot was retarded (a crazy psychologist who invents and lobotomy LASER??? and then uses it on reanimated corpses to control their minds to make them kidnap this chick he wants to bang and then ends up using his reanimated, decapitated head to eat her out. You’d think they was an easier way to do all that.) But I must say in its defense, I laughed at it. OH! A decapitated head CANNOT ‘breathe’ by sticking it in a tray of blood!!! Oi vey.:smack: ---
**Author:** ![burntsand](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ba9def/32.png) [@burntsand](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burntsand)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2002, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-liked-this-movie-you-suck/119219/74 "2002-07-19T11:43:10Z")
[Lose All Indie Cred] “Withnail and I” - completely unfathomable and unfunny. People in university thought this was the funniest movie ever. They must have had access to better drugs than me. [/Lose All Indie Cred] ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2002, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-liked-this-movie-you-suck/119219/75 "2002-07-19T11:54:13Z")
It takes all kinds to make a world. I don’t think that anybody who likes a movie I abhor “sucks,” but it would fair to think that perhaps our world views are too different to have any kind of a relationship. For example, I couldn’t imagine being friends with anybody who didn’t like Monty Python–it’s not bad on their part, just not in sync enough with my sensibilities to want to spend time with them. For example, I think **Reanimator** is a brilliant melange of Grand Guignol horror and slapstick comedy–in the “giving head” scene, one wants to giggle and hurl at the same time. ---
**Author:** ![GSV\_Consolation\_of\_Dreams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f1d935/32.png) [@GSV\_Consolation\_of\_Dreams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GSV_Consolation_of_Dreams)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2002, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-liked-this-movie-you-suck/119219/76 "2002-07-19T12:32:37Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Sublight \* > \*\*_Things to do in Denver when you’re Dead_ is another film whose fans I seriously wonder about. I’m not too serious about this one, however, since I enjoyed _Pulp Fiction_, which I know some people hate with a passion. I’ve concluded that our reasons for liking one and hating the other are probably similar. \*\* Well I only saw it on video but I thought _Denver_ was quite good. Worth it if only for Treat Williams in camo facepaint howling “I am Godzilla, you are JAPAAAN!” after shooting someone. ---
**Author:** ![dalovindj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/65b543/32.png) [@dalovindj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalovindj)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2002, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-liked-this-movie-you-suck/119219/77 "2002-07-19T16:45:42Z")
Night at the Roxbury. Other than the “Did you just grab my ass?” bit, that movie blew and so do you (if you liked it). Did you just grab my ass? Come on. I know it was you. Just admit it. It’s all right if you did, just don’t lie to me about it. Fine. Play it that way. Just know that I’m watching \*you]/i]. DaLovin’ Dj ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2002, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-liked-this-movie-you-suck/119219/78 "2002-07-19T18:27:47Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by burntsand \* > \*\*[Lose All Indie Cred] > > “Withnail and I” - completely unfathomable and unfunny. People in university thought this was the funniest movie ever. They must have had access to better drugs than me. > > [/Lose All Indie Cred] \*\* Hey man… I love that movie (and I have such a crush on “I”) I have it on tape! ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2002, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-liked-this-movie-you-suck/119219/79 "2002-07-19T18:29:46Z")
“kill it instantly before it tries to make friends with you!!” ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2002, 8:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-liked-this-movie-you-suck/119219/80 "2002-07-24T08:20:56Z")
I know I’m condemning my entire generation by saying this, but I don’t know how anyone with an ounce of compassion could think **Breakfast Club** is a great film. I’m not saying it’s 100% bad. It’s redeemed somewhat by Estevez’ character, and by the scene between Vernon and the custodian. But I cannot understand all these people who say “I love Bender…he rules,” when his character makes it into the OJ/Nicole training video. John Hughes was dissed by a cheerleader in 1966, and this film is his hate letter to all women. Bender belongs in the early sixties, when a guy with mechanic’s clothes and an attitude was all that. In the ‘80s, he would have had a scraggly mullet, a Levi’s vest, and an Iron Maiden t-shirt. He would also have been nowhere near as articulate. And Claire has a flip! That’s it: “He’s a rebel and he’ll never ever be any good…” Bender is a big baby, that’s all. When all else fails, he falls back on pushing and throwing things like a kindergartner. That was a great shot of him looking through the balcony railings. That’s where he belongs: in a playpen. Andrew is right when he says that Bender is no one to judge anyone, and that he has no right to be a pain in the ass. And he wonders why everybody doesn’t love him? “You don’t know any of my friends”—because they offer no opportunity to get to know them. “You don’t look at any of my friends”—because making eye contact with someone who walks with his fists clenched is too risky. “You wouldn’t condescend to speak to any of my friends”—About what? And why? Just to be told to fuck off? He acts like he hates everyone else’s way of doing things, but he can’t bear it that they don’t like his way. Claire is not responsible for Bender’s circumstances. Neither is Vernon, nor anyone else. He demands change, but is unwilling to modify his own behavior. If he wants to prove something, why doesn’t he make something of himself? He’s a straight white male who has his health. There are a lot of people with more reason to be bitter. Imagine being disabled, for instance. She’s not a bad person because she has diamond earrings. Whatever circumstances led her to get such a gift are her business and hers only. Maybe her dad busted his ass all his life so his kids could have it better than he did, and if he wants to give his daughter diamond earrings, he can do that. Conversely, maybe the earrings were “thrown” at her, rather than given to her, to make up for some incident when her parents let her down. I think this would not have found a following in subsequent generations if they saw it uncut, instead of the censored version that’s shown ad infinitum on TBS. You don’t get the full impact of Bender’s evil when you hear “fancy prom” instead of “fucking prom”. You don’t get over that. You remember it for the rest of your life, wishing you’d said this or said that, and telling yourself it wasn’t true what he said…but the damage is done, and you’ve lost something of yourself. She **never** gets to say anything in her defense. But what is there to say? You can’t match that kind of aggression. All you get is a sore throat. “Go home and cry to your daddy.” That’s how a rapist treats his victim. She looks to him for approval, and he **nods**. She’s learning! That’s how a battered woman acts towards her abuser: appease him at all costs and give up everything of yourself. People: How would you feel if **you** were the recipient of those tirades? And since when is it a conquest to make a teenage girl cry, anyway? “We’ll get the prom queen impregnated?” That’s not an insult, that’s a threat. And as far as nail polish, don’t Bender’s women wear nail polish? Beyond that: —These subjects are too complex for a 90-minute film. Like all this tripe about virginity. Of course, in John Hughes’ candy-colored world, no one could ever get pregnant, there are no STDs, a guy who gets it anywhere he can is a hero, and a girl who wants to wait for a guy she can trust is a bitch. —As far as that goes, I wonder how many of those girls have Bender’s baby? —I can’t speak for everyone, but when I was a teenager in the ‘80s, the student council-cheerleader-jock-and-beauty-queen types were regarded as dinosaurs. We, the so-called misfits, were ragging on them. We didn’t need them. — Two alpha males, one beta male, one attractive, helpless female, one oddball female. How bloody original. —Since when do teenagers wait their turn to speak? —I have never heard of an unsupervised detention. Bender in particular should not be left alone with young women. —Brian turns ghastly white and squeaks “That was MARIJUANA!” Apparently Hughes doesn’t know that it was guys like him—overachievers or academic puppets—who were the midnight tokers in the ‘80s. It was the best way to take the edge off. —And no one’s going to bring sushi to school. It would already be spoiled by noon. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-liked-this-movie-you-suck/119219.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-liked-this-movie-you-suck/119219.md?page=5)