# If you make Cioppino, and nobody eats it, does it still cost a fuck-load?

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**Created:** [May 21, 2017, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-make-cioppino-and-nobody-eats-it-does-it-still-cost-a-fuck-load/787128 "2017-05-21T05:10:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-make-cioppino-and-nobody-eats-it-does-it-still-cost-a-fuck-load/787128/1 "2017-05-21T05:10:40Z")

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Yes. Yes it does.

Most expensive pot of shit I’ve ever left on the stove, uneaten.

My people. Assholes. I seriously don’t know why I bother. They deserve nothing but dollar-store hotdogs and expired potato chips.

(It was fucking great, by the way. But I can’t eat it all.)

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**Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-make-cioppino-and-nobody-eats-it-does-it-still-cost-a-fuck-load/787128/2 "2017-05-21T05:18:53Z")

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I’m sorry. I understand your frustration.

I only make Cioppino for a pre-approved list of people who have affirmatively swooned over it in the past. Much too spendy for those lacking a taste for it, and I have no idea what’s wrong with them.

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I had to google “cioppino”. Fish stew? It sounds like something I’d enjoy.

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Yes you would. It is fucking awesome.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-make-cioppino-and-nobody-eats-it-does-it-still-cost-a-fuck-load/787128/5 "2017-05-21T06:30:43Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> I had to google “cioppino”. Fish stew? It sounds like something I’d enjoy.

If you catch The Redeye, it will still be good tomorrow. All you can eat…

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**Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-make-cioppino-and-nobody-eats-it-does-it-still-cost-a-fuck-load/787128/6 "2017-05-21T06:30:51Z")

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That makes me sad because I would be happy to help you eat it. Love it and bouillabaisse or pretty much any seafood stew. I have a great recipe for a Provencal fish stew and make it on occasion, but as others have mentioned, only for a select group of people.

It’s too expensive for everyday and it doesn’t make good leftovers. Which is the saddest part because what doesn’t get finished becomes very expensive garbage.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-make-cioppino-and-nobody-eats-it-does-it-still-cost-a-fuck-load/787128/7 "2017-05-21T06:57:57Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> If you catch The Redeye, it will still be good tomorrow. All you can eat…

Redeye to where?

As expensive as you say it is, it would still probably cost me less to make it myself than a plane ticket would cost.

> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> If you catch The Redeye, it will still be good tomorrow. All you can eat…

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**Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-make-cioppino-and-nobody-eats-it-does-it-still-cost-a-fuck-load/787128/8 "2017-05-21T07:01:49Z")

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[Quote=Kolak of Twilo]  
…very expensive garbage.  
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Or very expensive cat food. If you know any cats that need feeding.

Sorry about all the philistine food-wasters you had to contend with, **Gatopescado**. I recently had to reluctantly discard a large batch of tasty (albeit not nearly so spendy) leftovers, and it’s very frustrating.

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**Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-make-cioppino-and-nobody-eats-it-does-it-still-cost-a-fuck-load/787128/9 "2017-05-21T07:17:02Z")

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Is it something that you can divide up into portions and freeze?

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**Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-make-cioppino-and-nobody-eats-it-does-it-still-cost-a-fuck-load/787128/10 "2017-05-21T07:31:06Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> Is it something that you can divide up into portions and freeze?

I dunno, man. Seafood. Kinda iffy.

But I’ll be freezing some for sure. Easier to shove up people’s ass that way.

Goddammit, I’m unhappy tonight. :mad:

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**Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-make-cioppino-and-nobody-eats-it-does-it-still-cost-a-fuck-load/787128/11 "2017-05-21T08:14:38Z")

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Man, that is a bummer. cioppino is a terrible thing to waste. Definitely one of the food of the gods. Not only expensive but is very involved to make.

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**Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 10:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-make-cioppino-and-nobody-eats-it-does-it-still-cost-a-fuck-load/787128/12 "2017-05-21T10:01:04Z")

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My reaction to the OP depends greatly on the surrounding circumstances, e.g. whether the diners knew beforehand what they were going to be served, whether and how they outright refused the cioppino, whether it was a special occasion, etc.

Then again, I don’t like seafood in general, so that may affect my sympathies. 🙂

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**Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-make-cioppino-and-nobody-eats-it-does-it-still-cost-a-fuck-load/787128/13 "2017-05-21T12:16:31Z")

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Ouch. Philistines. I’m so sorry.

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**Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-make-cioppino-and-nobody-eats-it-does-it-still-cost-a-fuck-load/787128/14 "2017-05-21T12:45:02Z")

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I’m curious as to the context of the part “My people. Assholes.” Did you make this for family? Friends? Did you host a dinner party and none of them partook? Did they make rude comments like “Fish stew? Eeewwww. Why don’t you just serve sewage?”

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**Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-make-cioppino-and-nobody-eats-it-does-it-still-cost-a-fuck-load/787128/15 "2017-05-21T13:01:29Z")

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Those people deserve to be tortured and shot. Not fatally shot, then you wouldn’t be able to torture them again.

Casting pearls before swine.

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Some people don’t like seafood, especially shellfish. News at 11.

Myself, I love almost any kind of seafood prepared any kind of way. Can’t build up hate for folks who don’t though. Polite guests would at least take a stab at it, though. Did they just turn up their noses and not even try it? Chalk it up to an important life lesson learned. Serve pizza next time. Or, go for the first part of your username instead of the last. 😉

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**Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-make-cioppino-and-nobody-eats-it-does-it-still-cost-a-fuck-load/787128/17 "2017-05-21T13:28:06Z")

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A-fucking-men. I made some last week, it was incredible, but I’m the only one who will eat it. But not even I can eat it for two meals a day for more than three days in a row, so in the end some got wasted. Sigh. Sadly, I knew this would happen but I did it anyway, because I love cioppino.

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> Yes. Yes it does.
> 
> Most expensive pot of shit I’ve ever left on the stove, uneaten.
> 
> My people. Assholes. I seriously don’t know why I bother. They deserve nothing but dollar-store hotdogs and expired potato chips.
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> (It was fucking great, by the way. But I can’t eat it all.)

What sort of dunces do you consort with? It’s a great dish.

Reminds me of when I made lumpia for a bunch of my ex-wife’s Minnesota relatives. If you’ve ever made them, you know that they’re a pain in the ass, and I made a triple batch (about 150). It took several hours to get them made, deep fried and on the table. They all sat there staring at them suspiciously and helping themselves to every other thing on the table, even after I explained what they were and what was in them.

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**Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-make-cioppino-and-nobody-eats-it-does-it-still-cost-a-fuck-load/787128/19 "2017-05-21T15:02:14Z")

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Sigh, another rant :(.

> [@](#):
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> CIOPPINO
> 
> YIELD Makes 6 servings  
> ACTIVE TIME 45 min TOTAL TIME1 1/2 hr
> 
> INGREDIENTS
> 
> 40 000 large garlic cloves, minced  
> 2 medium onions, finely chopped  
> 1 Turkish bay leaf or 1/2 California bay leaf  
> 1 teaspoon dried oregano, crumbled  
> 1 teaspoon dried hot red pepper flakes  
> 1 1/2 teaspoons salt  
> 1/2 teaspoon black pepper  
> 1/4 cup olive oil  
> 1 green bell pepper, cut into 1/4-inch dice  
> 2 tablespoons tomato paste  
> 1 1/2 cups dry red wine  
> 1 (28- to 32-ounces) can whole plum tomatoes, drained, reserving juice, and chopped  
> 1 cup bottled clam juice  
> 1 cup chicken broth  
> 1 (1-pound) king crab leg, thawed if frozen  
> 18 small (2-inch) hard-shelled clams (1 1/2 pound) such as littlenecks, scrubbed  
> 1 pound skinless red snapper or halibut fillets, cut into 1 1/2-inch pieces  
> 1 pound large shrimp (16 to 20), shelled (tails and bottom segment of shells left intact) and deveined  
> 3/4 pound sea scallops, tough muscle removed from side of each if necessary  
> 1/4 cup finely chopped fresh flat-leaf parsley  
> 3 tablespoons finely chopped fresh basil  
> Garnish: shredded fresh basil leaves and small whole leaves  
> Accompaniment: focaccia or sourdough bread

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> What sort of dunces do you consort with? It’s a great dish.
> 
> Reminds me of when I made lumpia for a bunch of my ex-wife’s Minnesota relatives. If you’ve ever made them, you know that they’re a pain in the ass, and I made a triple batch (about 150). It took several hours to get them made, **deep fried** and on the table. They all sat there staring at them suspiciously and helping themselves to every other thing on the table, even after I explained what they were and what was in them.

And they turned it down?  
The mind boggles.

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