# If you make Cioppino, and nobody eats it, does it still cost a fuck-load?

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**Created:** [May 21, 2017, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-make-cioppino-and-nobody-eats-it-does-it-still-cost-a-fuck-load/787128 "2017-05-21T05:10:40Z")\
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**Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-make-cioppino-and-nobody-eats-it-does-it-still-cost-a-fuck-load/787128/41 "2017-05-21T20:51:07Z")

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I made dinner for my girlfriend – Cornish game hens, spinach soufflé and I cannot remember what else. She had maybe 3 bites and next thing I know, we were in bed. All that work. I felt so unappreciated.

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**Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-make-cioppino-and-nobody-eats-it-does-it-still-cost-a-fuck-load/787128/42 "2017-05-21T21:04:33Z")

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I’m betting you got over it. 😉

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-make-cioppino-and-nobody-eats-it-does-it-still-cost-a-fuck-load/787128/43 "2017-05-21T22:02:17Z")

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> [@jasg](#):
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> Minnesotans prefer the [food](http://imgur.com/DcCBX30) they were reared on…

I ate many meals there that consisted of an amorphous mass of something in a baking dish, topped with tater tots. I think the place single-handedly keeps Campbell’s Cream of Chicken soup in the production lineup.

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**Author:** ![Tee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@Tee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tee)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-make-cioppino-and-nobody-eats-it-does-it-still-cost-a-fuck-load/787128/44 "2017-05-21T22:30:03Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> Pretty common shit around here is folks eating whole bags of corn chips with a tub of sour cream, sleeves of Ritz crackers and Pop Tarts\* **while I’m cooking dinner** \*, then the inevitable, “Oh, I’m not hungry!”’ when you serve up a perfect $7.99/lb Ribeye.

People are disowned for less than that, in my family.

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**Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-make-cioppino-and-nobody-eats-it-does-it-still-cost-a-fuck-load/787128/45 "2017-05-21T23:18:00Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> What sort of dunces do you consort with? It’s a great dish.
> 
> Reminds me of when I made lumpia for a bunch of my ex-wife’s Minnesota relatives. If you’ve ever made them, you know that they’re a pain in the ass, and I made a triple batch (about 150). It took several hours to get them made, deep fried and on the table. They all sat there staring at them suspiciously and helping themselves to every other thing on the table, even after I explained what they were and what was in them.

Ergh. I love lumpia and can’t get any good ones here. Too much trouble to make at home just for two people.

Sorry about the cioppino too, **Gato**. That’s another thing I’d love to have here but the husband can’t have shellfish very often any more. Sounds like hiding the junk food (maybe permanently) might be a good plan.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-make-cioppino-and-nobody-eats-it-does-it-still-cost-a-fuck-load/787128/46 "2017-05-22T00:08:13Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> Checking the menu with guests in advance can also lead to ragestorms.

Exactly this. Cioppino just sounds like a very dicey dish to bring out to an audience you don’t know that well. Lots of people have seafood aversions and allergies, and a lot of people don’t like to eat outside their comfort zone.

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**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-make-cioppino-and-nobody-eats-it-does-it-still-cost-a-fuck-load/787128/47 "2017-05-22T00:25:51Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> I ate many meals there that consisted of an amorphous mass of something in a baking dish, topped with tater tots. I think the place single-handedly keeps Campbell’s Cream of Chicken soup in the production lineup.

At the Minnesota State Fair, they even have [Hot Dish On A Stick](http://simplegoodandtasty.com/2009/09/04/things-i-did-not-eat-at-the-mn-state-fair).

See, to Scandahoovians and Loot’rans alike, whenever anyone’s depressed or sick or dealing with cabin fever, it’s the perfect excuse for church ladies to drop by with casserole dishes brimming with “Hot Dish”.

Oh,[there’s a video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCII8ZBAq7o), that comes with a sidebar of “Tater Tot Hot Dish” recipes.

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**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-make-cioppino-and-nobody-eats-it-does-it-still-cost-a-fuck-load/787128/48 "2017-05-22T00:35:55Z")

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> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#):
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> I would like some cioppino . . .

+1  
…and yeah, I know… you can’t microwave/reheat it. Still, revenge… and leftovers from really good seafood dishes… are best served cold.

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**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-make-cioppino-and-nobody-eats-it-does-it-still-cost-a-fuck-load/787128/49 "2017-05-22T00:44:08Z")

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I’ve never been a fan of these fancy European coffees.

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**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-make-cioppino-and-nobody-eats-it-does-it-still-cost-a-fuck-load/787128/50 "2017-05-22T01:03:29Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> What sort of dunces do you consort with? It’s a great dish.

someone isn’t a fucking “dunce” just because they’re not as interested in cuisine as you are.

jesus fucking christ, life would be so much more pleasant if we’d stop sticking our noses into what other people do or do not want to eat.

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**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-make-cioppino-and-nobody-eats-it-does-it-still-cost-a-fuck-load/787128/51 "2017-05-22T01:21:51Z")

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You there. Have a Snickers.

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**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-make-cioppino-and-nobody-eats-it-does-it-still-cost-a-fuck-load/787128/52 "2017-05-22T01:31:31Z")

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Sorry - if that were produced in front of me it would be a hard pass, but I dont like fish.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-make-cioppino-and-nobody-eats-it-does-it-still-cost-a-fuck-load/787128/53 "2017-05-22T02:02:47Z")

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> [@Tee](#):
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> You there. Have a Snickers.

**Jz78817** don’t need no candy. He just finished a Kraft Dinner.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-make-cioppino-and-nobody-eats-it-does-it-still-cost-a-fuck-load/787128/54 "2017-05-22T02:06:51Z")

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> [@Tee](#):
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> People are disowned for less than that, in my family.

Trust me. We’re _this close._

Tonight’s menu: Big Ass Rib Eye and Escargot. For me.

I’ve got a sandbag and a mallet for others to pound it.

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**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-make-cioppino-and-nobody-eats-it-does-it-still-cost-a-fuck-load/787128/55 "2017-05-22T02:28:41Z")

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I used to really enjoy throwing dinner parties. As the years have gone along, much less so.

Now, by the time I get through the lactose intolerant, gluten free, ovo-vegetarian, pescaterians, vegans, nut allergies, seafood allergies and just plain, “I won’t eat raw tomatoes/mushrooms/stinky cheese/onions/fill-in-the-blank-here,” I’m thoroughly disheartened. All of these are valid choices and considerations, but I simply can’t manage it anymore. I pre-screen the guests for the menu and usually end up inviting just one couple at a time. For larger parties, it’s all potluck now, so everyone can bring at least one thing they can eat.

Even with pre-screening, it’s a dicey proposition. Invited a couple over for dinner a couple of years ago and before they came I asked, “Are there any dietary preferences or food dislikes I should know about?”

Them: “Oh, no, we eat everything!”

Me: “You’re sure?”

Them: “Really, EVERYTHING!”

I made strawberry mousse for dessert. Husband hates strawberries.

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**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-make-cioppino-and-nobody-eats-it-does-it-still-cost-a-fuck-load/787128/56 "2017-05-22T03:37:15Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> Exactly this. Cioppino just sounds like a very dicey dish to bring out to an audience you don’t know that well. Lots of people have seafood aversions and allergies, and a lot of people don’t like to eat outside their comfort zone.

Ah, it seems to me this rant isn’t about a dinner party, but just his wife and kid? I can’t quite follow. Anyhow, in that case, I understand the frustration, but at some point I think you have to just accept that your wife & kid don’t have the same appreciation for food or the same foods as you do. I have some of that in my family, too. My wife would probably prefer a plate of spaghetti with some Ragu sauce on it to most any labor-intensive or expensive dish I can make. So if I’m veering off the beaten path, I make it with the frame of mind that I’m making it for myself, and cook up something else more neutral for everyone else. (I do 99% of the cooking in the house, and now with two kids 3 and under in the house, having separate dishes on offer is common.)

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**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-make-cioppino-and-nobody-eats-it-does-it-still-cost-a-fuck-load/787128/57 "2017-05-22T03:50:51Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> Ah, it seems to me this rant isn’t about a dinner party, but just his wife and kid?

Yeah, he is. I just took the opportunity to make a gratuitous rant of my own.

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**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-make-cioppino-and-nobody-eats-it-does-it-still-cost-a-fuck-load/787128/58 "2017-05-22T03:56:20Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> Trust me. We’re _this close._
> 
> Tonight’s menu: Big Ass Rib Eye and Escargot. For me.
> 
> I’ve got a sandbag and a mallet for others to pound it.

I’m hungry. ☹

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**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-make-cioppino-and-nobody-eats-it-does-it-still-cost-a-fuck-load/787128/59 "2017-05-22T06:07:02Z")

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> [@jz78817](#):
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> someone isn’t a fucking “dunce” just because they’re not as interested in cuisine as you are.
> 
> jesus fucking christ, life would be so much more pleasant if we’d stop sticking our noses into what other people do or do not want to eat.

Oh, now you’re going to get the foodies angry, and they’ll tell us how anyone who doesn’t eat their culinary masterpieces must exist soley on chicken nuggets and fries. :rolleyes:

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**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-make-cioppino-and-nobody-eats-it-does-it-still-cost-a-fuck-load/787128/60 "2017-05-22T14:20:25Z")

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> [@jz78817](#):
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> someone isn’t a fucking “dunce” just because they’re not as interested in cuisine as you are.
> 
> jesus fucking christ, life would be so much more pleasant if we’d stop sticking our noses into what other people do or do not want to eat.

It’s fucking soup, and the comment was clearly tongue-in-cheek. Lighten the fuck up.

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