# If you oppose the President, you're aiding terror! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 30, 2003, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-oppose-the-president-youre-aiding-terror/216103 "2003-11-30T20:08:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![RobbieFal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c5a1d2/32.png) [@RobbieFal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RobbieFal)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2003, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-oppose-the-president-youre-aiding-terror/216103/1 "2003-11-30T20:08:40Z")
Here’s the article I’m referencing [http://toogoodreports.com/column/general/daniel/20031029.htm](http://toogoodreports.com/column/general/daniel/20031029.htm) Let’s go though this article > [@](#): > > No matter what the answer . . . if George Bush fails, America loses. Hey, our President’s like Neo! Whoo hoo! > [@](#): > > Whatever happened to “United We Stand?” I guess if being united means ‘not opposing the President’, then the best example of ‘United We Stand’ would be a place like Iraq. Where it was ‘United you stand! Or else we shoot you’ > [@](#): > > The presidential candidates seem to mock the very motto by which we live Yeah… I hate having my “UWS” world shattered by mocking. > [@](#): > > The terrorists want to kill Americans and the Democrats are fueling hatred against the man who is leading the effort against these murderers. Fueling the hatred? I guess I need to go to the Howard Dean “We should burn the Bush” rally sometime. Then again, maybe disagreement is hatred. I wonder if Al Sharpton’s holding a “Bush will burn in hell forever” rally. 😃 > [@](#): > > If the Democrats think these vicious barbs against the president are quelling his resoluteness . . . think again. Yeah, criticism never stopped Bush before. 😃 > [@](#): > > You´re piercing the heart of the American people and killing our spirit to unify. ‘In the streets, the children screamed, the lovers cried and the poets weaped, on the day that Bush was bashed’ > [@](#): > > It´s frightening to think that the Democrats and the terrorists are on the same page The Democrats are plotting to blow up targets in New York? > [@](#): > > their ultimate goal – get rid of George Bush When the fuck did Al-Qaeda get into the business of being a Political Action Committee? > [@](#): > > The truth is that the liberals are playing right into the hands of our enemy by turning on our own president and calling him names in front of the whole world. hee hee… Saddam Hussein, in his underground bunker - “Yes! John Kerry called Bush a name. It’s time to masturbate in celebration!” > [@](#): > > The more the enemy can weaken the strength of our leadership, the easier it will be to take advantage of a flagging nation Ok… so Terrorists will weaken our leadership, so they can do something that will strengthen our leadership. > [@](#): > > And the presidential candidates could very well be putting our lives in danger by railing against our leader. :rolleyes: I guess contested elections are putting our lives in danger too. Imagine what would happen on election day, the railing against the leader could cause all sorts of death! We love the leader! > [@](#): > > We are at the mercy of thugs who would love nothing more than to find us fighting amongst ourselves in the name of democracy . . . or for your almighty candidacy Around this point, I’m not sure if she’s talking about the Democrats or Al-Qaeda, they’re probably the same to her. And I couldn’t find a source on this… > [@](#): > > Kerry´s answer: “Well, General Boykin really confused the administration, because when he mentioned the ALMIGHTY, Bush thought he was talking about Dick Cheney; Cheney thought he was talking about Haliburton; and John Ashcroft thought he was talking about him.” granted, it’s John Kerry and I’ll admit that the powdered wigged-one is nowhere near funny. Just that this could be made up for all we know. > [@](#): > > Not only do we enjoy denigrating our president, but now we find pleasure in using the Almighty as a premise for our jokes. _GASP_ First the President and now GOD??? Before this President, I had never known of Presidents being bashed. > [@](#): > > We truly do worship a different God than the terrorists; I’m sure that makes Muslims feel good. 😃 I guess the answer of “Terrorists are self-centered assholes who are using religion” is too cerebral. > [@](#): > > Another point I´ve observed is that the Democrats and the terrorists alike are getting desperate. They seem to be revving up the pressure at just about the same pace . . . Bush is getting to them. But… our lives are still in danger if we oppose El Presidente, right? > [@](#): > > In spite of the George Bush hate-mongers, it looks like he´s doing it right or they – Democrats and terrorists – wouldn´t be so intent on destroying him. Isn’t there a name for the logical fallacy of “If they’re pissed off, I must be succeeding”. I’m sure that at time, it would ignore that they’re pissed off at you for making bad choices. But, they must hate Bush for his freedom! > [@](#): > > The “verbal" arrows shot lately at the president have more poisonous tips Mr. President, Duck! > [@](#): > > the bombs exploding near police stations in Baghdad seem to have a more distinct message . . . YOU´RE NOT GOING TO WIN, WE WILL BE IN CONTROL. Or they are sending the messege of WE KNOW HOW TO USE EXPLOSIVES. Whatever. Wait… she slipped from talking about Democrats to talking about Terrorists, right? 😉 > [@](#): > > It´s ironic She didn’t expect Democrats and Terrorists to be similar? Doesn’t that warrant revoking her ‘Extreme-Right Card’? 😃 > [@](#): > > both want control and of course, they’re the only two groups that want control. 😃 > [@](#): > > We´ve got a war going on and some of you think George Bush is the enemy. I think you lost those “Bush is the enemy” people back when you suggested we’d die because we opposed Bush. > [@](#): > > What will it take to remind you he´s on our side? Maybe if he could have come to my house and gave me some turkey, then I would reconsider. :rolleyes: > [@](#): > > many of you are convinced he lied to you – looked you in the face and lied. I don’t know, is it still a lie if you believed it and it turned out to be false? 😃 > [@](#): > > My friends, Bill Clinton is the liar, not George Bush. WELL, THAT TOTALLY REFUTES ALL CLAIMS OF BUSH LYING! If Clinton lied, that must mean that Bush didn’t! > [@](#): > > The day that George Bush comes forward on National TV and looks square in the camera and says to the American people, “Indeed I did lie to you about that man, Mr. Hussein,” is the day I´ll say you´re right. In other words “I’ll admit it when hell freezes over” > [@](#): > > And speaking of dead . . . our country has never gone through anything like this in our entire history. If, for just one sane moment, any of you could stop hurling stones and concede that we´ve never fought a war like this before; that there´s an enemy who won´t show his ugly face, then we might be able to get somewhere. Never thought a war like this? I could have sworn you fought a Guerrilla War or two before. I guess this war should be thought with neat troop formations on a battlefield. Sorta like a war in the 18th century. “Those colonists are hiding behind trees, they won’t show their ugly faces” {Before you freak out, I am not saying the Founding Fathers are like the assholes fighting in Iraq. But, for the standards of war in our time and in 1776, both are quite ‘guerrilla’} > [@](#): > > Right now, we are not united. And divided we WILL fall See what you did Leftists! It’s all your fault! 😃 > [@](#): > > how can any intelligence give us a timeline when this will end, present an exit strategy, or an account of what it will cost when there´s no precedent? Maybe you should have thought up an exit plan before you went into Iraq. I guess there’s no precedent for that either. It’s an improv war! > [@](#): > > We´re more or less trying to find our way through a storm with no light. not to mention that it’s hard enough finding WMDs in Iraq. > [@](#): > > And everybody´s trying to take control of the ship, because most don´t think we have a bona fide captain. He didn´t get the popular vote of all the sailors on board. > > Well, that last captain we had, didn´t come on board ship with the popular vote either. And if I remember, the water was pretty calm then. I must have missed Clinton losing in the popular vote. But, I do remember the calm Clinton years, free of independent councils, impeachments and general scandal. It was paradise! 😃 Unless that last captain was Benjamin Harrison… then I don’t know what the hell she’s talking about. > [@](#): > > The president is doing everything he can to steer this ship through a terrible storm, and some of you are determined to push him overboard. > > The display of animus, shown at the past debate in Detroit, reminded me of a bunch of idiots throwing anchors overboard trying to create a drag on the vessel . . . not letting it move forward I guess if we just give the President dictatorial powers, we’d start moving. 😃 > [@](#): > > If you don´t trust this man, and the God he prays to fervently, why don´t you just bail-out and lighten the load? You´re doing nothing but trying to sink a great ship . . . America! “Shut the fuck up or get off”… What a messege of unity! “If you don’t like it, leave!”. We’ll be more united if we could just shoot un-united people. 😃 > [@](#): > > And if this sounds hard to compare the Democrats to the terrorists, get over it Anybody hear about Wesley Clark planning a ‘big bang’? I hear that Carol Moseley Braun has evil plans too. And that’s it for the column. > [@](#): > > If you’re a whiny-liberal, Debbie is sure to make your hair hurt with her take-no-prisoners conservative philosophy. Wait, that was my hair that was hurting? :dubious: I hope you guys learned something today. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![cheddarsnax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@cheddarsnax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cheddarsnax)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2003, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-oppose-the-president-youre-aiding-terror/216103/2 "2003-11-30T20:36:09Z")
> [@](#): > > [Debbie] has a copy of the Bill of Rights … and she’s read it! Are you sure about that, Ms. Daniel? ---
**Author:** ![Arcite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/67e7ee/32.png) [@Arcite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arcite)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2003, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-oppose-the-president-youre-aiding-terror/216103/3 "2003-11-30T20:39:19Z")
If people continue to post rants this long, then the terrorists will have won. ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2003, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-oppose-the-president-youre-aiding-terror/216103/4 "2003-11-30T20:42:54Z")
My god… I don’t know whether to laugh, cry, vomit, or all three. It seems she took her brain and ran it through a blender. See… the left doesn’t produce this level of perfect insanity, does it? Point me to it, cuz I don’t see it. Not to say we don’t have our extremists, but this…really, it’s mind-boggling. ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2003, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-oppose-the-president-youre-aiding-terror/216103/5 "2003-11-30T20:45:57Z")
Oh, and your retorts were great. I laughed out loud at these three: > [@](#): > > \*\* > > - ‘In the streets, the children screamed, the lovers cried and the poets weaped, on the day that Bush was bashed’ > > - The Democrats are plotting to blow up targets in New York? > > - When the fuck did Al-Qaeda get into the business of being a Political Action Committee? > \*\* ---
**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2003, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-oppose-the-president-youre-aiding-terror/216103/6 "2003-11-30T20:50:09Z")
[homer simpson]na,na,na,na,na,na,na,na, leader… na,na,na,na,na,na,na,na, leader… leader…leader… leader![/homer simpson] ---
**Author:** ![whiterabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/cab0a1/32.png) [@whiterabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whiterabbit)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2003, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-oppose-the-president-youre-aiding-terror/216103/7 "2003-11-30T22:56:23Z")
Silly me, I was under the impression that opposing the President IS an American thing to do, what with the Constitution and all. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2003, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-oppose-the-president-youre-aiding-terror/216103/8 "2003-11-30T23:12:35Z")
Dear Ms. Daniel: I fear you have not followed instructions precisely. When constructing the hat, the tin foil must always, repeat, _always_ be folded along a line parallel with true magnetic north! Failure to do so will drasticly reduce the protection afforded against telepathic rays. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2003, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-oppose-the-president-youre-aiding-terror/216103/9 "2003-11-30T23:23:30Z")
And you wonder how dictators come into power. Li’l Debbie wants the Big Man to tell everyone what to do and make everything all right so the boogie men don’t get us. What a sap. ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2003, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-oppose-the-president-youre-aiding-terror/216103/10 "2003-11-30T23:36:36Z")
> [@](#): > > If you’re a whiny-liberal, Debbie is sure to make your hair hurt with her take-no-prisoners conservative philosophy. Look out! Debbie is coming to Do Dallas!!! The best part is she’s arguing to suspend elections and keep Bush king for life in the sake of unity and freedom, under God’s orders. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2003, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-oppose-the-president-youre-aiding-terror/216103/11 "2003-11-30T23:51:25Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by whiterabbit \* > \*\*Silly me, I was under the impression that opposing the President IS an American thing to do, what with the Constitution and all. :rolleyes: \*\* Only when there’s a Democrat in the White House. ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2003, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-oppose-the-president-youre-aiding-terror/216103/12 "2003-11-30T23:59:12Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by elucidator \* > \*\*Dear Ms. Daniel: > > I fear you have not followed instructions precisely. > > When constructing the hat, the tin foil must always, repeat, _always_ be folded along a line parallel with true magnetic north! Failure to do so will drasticly reduce the protection afforded against telepathic rays. \*\* Oh please send this to her, Boris! Please! Can I? ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2003, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-oppose-the-president-youre-aiding-terror/216103/13 "2003-11-30T23:59:27Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by RobbieFal \* > **Saddam Hussein, in his underground bunker - "Yes! John Kerry called Bush a name. It’s time to masturbate in celebration!"** I find this to be very sig worthy. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2003, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-oppose-the-president-youre-aiding-terror/216103/14 "2003-12-01T00:02:05Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Stoid \* > \*\*Oh please send this to her, Boris! Please! Can I? \*\* Have I ever said “Nyet” to you, my dove? (Begging for mercy doesn’t count.) ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2003, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-oppose-the-president-youre-aiding-terror/216103/15 "2003-12-01T00:14:09Z")
But seriously folks…or as close as I ever get. This is going to be one ugly mammy-jammer of a political season. Loin your girds and keep your powder dry. The Forces of Darkness will stop at nothing…_nothing_…to keep their long cherished grip on power. If they win by any margin, however slim, they will interpret it as an absolute mandate from the People. And to the honest conservatives whose opinion I respect… If you aid and abet this, every principle we hold dear in common will go straight into the crapper. ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2003, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-oppose-the-president-youre-aiding-terror/216103/16 "2003-12-01T00:26:04Z")
I am aware of the potential horror that will be this upcoming election, and am prepared. The Evil Emperor must be ousted, no matter the cost. I shall put his tax cuts to good use in Democratic party coffers! ---
**Author:** ![Master\_Wang-Ka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/master_wang-ka/32/3325_2.png) [@Master\_Wang-Ka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Master_Wang-Ka)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2003, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-oppose-the-president-youre-aiding-terror/216103/17 "2003-12-01T00:29:28Z")
Mandate? What mandate? His Lordship didn’t have a mandate in the LAST election. That didn’t stop him from turning half the planet upside down. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2003, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-oppose-the-president-youre-aiding-terror/216103/18 "2003-12-01T00:29:55Z")
The whole $5? Attaboy! ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2003, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-oppose-the-president-youre-aiding-terror/216103/19 "2003-12-01T00:35:53Z")
hey hey hey, it was $5.11, i make the big bucks for being middle class! (good think the terrible economy forced my health benefits up $10, so i am out money now! WOOOOO Bush!) ---
**Author:** ![London\_Calling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@London\_Calling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/London_Calling)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2003, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-oppose-the-president-youre-aiding-terror/216103/20 "2003-12-01T00:43:36Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by elucidator \* > The Forces of Darkness will stop at nothing…_nothing_…to keep their long cherished grip on power. If they win by any margin, however slim, they will interpret it as an absolute mandate from the People. I agree **Man of Nipples** , and I don’t think people appeciate yet that they really could win. What I don’t understand is why folks (seem to) think it will be a very different world under a democrat President. Is there a shiny, happy alternative plan that I haven’t yet chanced across or are the Democrats still broadly supporting the neocon Iraq policy ? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-oppose-the-president-youre-aiding-terror/216103.md?page=2)