If you saw a miracle tomorrow

Yup. He just needed to add tags for [Dr. Jekyll voice] and [Mr. Hyde voice]

Glenn Beck is playing you for a fool.

Oh, please do get your head around it, Sunny Jim. There are a whole bunch of people on this earth who have not had that particular brand of religion inflicted on them. There are others - myself included - who did have it inflicted on them, but were fortunate enough to find out that religion of any kind is a bald-faced lie, nothing more than a con game.

I personally find it hard to get my head around the fact that people do believe that nonsense. If you simply look at it hard, it falls apart. And if you study it in detail, you’ll see that religion is one of the most evil and harmful things that one group of humans has ever dreamed up to inflict on another group of humans.

Some people use the term “miracle” for every day events that are awe inspiring, like the “miracle of childbirth.” If you’re using miracle in that sense, then I can’t argue with you on that.

But maybe you’re talking about this definition: “an effect or extraordinary event in the physical world that surpasses all known human or natural powers and is ascribed to a supernatural cause.” If that’s that case, I’d like to hear some miracle stories.

I see them everyday and they are personal. If people on this board were not so rude and disrespectful I would tell you a few but I’m not up to the ridicule today. It’s hot and I am happy and don’t feel like being filleted.

In other words, no, you haven’t seen any miracles. You just want to throw the word out there.

If you don’t have the courage of your convictions to handle some message board rudeness, then it’s not very much of a conviction, is it?

I generally don’t join in to these types of threads, but since I’m bored…

I don’t know why it’s a big deal what anyone believes. Do I care if someone is Christian, Muslim, or some new age Wiccan? Not really. Do I care if someone is atheist or agnostic? Nope.

Do I have opinions on who’s deluded? Yup, but I don’t need to tell anyone because I really don’t care. I do feel that persons on both sides of the argument take things to heart too much and the discussion becomes ugly.

Because the believers won’t leave other people alone, and because the bad behavior and bad judgment of believers makes them a danger to everyone around them.

And believers can say that some non-believers won’t leave them alone… The only danger I see from some believers is that they vote according to whatever the Bible tells them to vote for, as is their right. Some of those things are things that I believe that the Bible is incorrect about, but…

That’s called “blaming the victim”. They whine, whine all the time about how oppressed they are as they stomp on everyone else they can.

It may be their right, but that makes it no less stupid and evil. Nor is that all they do; they fight against science, abuse their children, defraud people, assault and kill people, lie, harass, and in general try to make life unpleasant for everyone else.

Trihs, I’m never sure why anyone would want to own a brush that large. You can’t get anything useful painted with it.

Warning! Warning! Thread spiralling off-course! Red Alert! Grab your parachutes!

I’m an atheist:

Presuming we get past the point of looking for the man behind the curtain (which is mostly presumed in the OP), I would completely believe Jesus when he said that God wanted us to all wear tutus or whatever. What I wouldn’t believe, necessarily, is that I should care what God wants. I don’t presume him to have a moral authority or anything, or even to have good judgement. He very well might be irrational or insane, particularly if the bible is mostly true.

So yeah - I’d listen to the demands of God and then draw my own conclusions on how to react and the degree (if any) that I should modify my behavior as a result of his mandates. If the diety appears to be powerful and seems to have a willingness to spread death and destruction in his wake if crossed I would certainly take that into account, though there is certainly no guarantee that it would translate into obedience. I flatter myself to think I’m too moral to obey the god of the bible, after all, and if I am I should choose pointless defiance rather than craven buckling under, if it came to that.

Your resistance application is in the mail.