# If you start an AI thread and nobody posts, does it make a sound? American Idol 4/11

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 11, 2006, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-start-an-ai-thread-and-nobody-posts-does-it-make-a-sound-american-idol-4-11/352246 "2006-04-11T17:00:59Z")\
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**Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-start-an-ai-thread-and-nobody-posts-does-it-make-a-sound-american-idol-4-11/352246/161 "2006-04-12T17:47:40Z")

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Last night.

Bucky – Turns everything into country, but it worked for me. Almost as goodlooking as Chris.

Chris – Turns everything into alt-rock, but it doesn’t matter what he does. He’ll be in the top four, maybe top two.

Elliot – Great voice. Gone in a week or two. Who are his fans?

Taylor – Looked like sombody’s drunk uncle at a wedding. Hey I’m gonna sing to Queen and make a complete ass of myself.

Ace – Weak. Take your beanie and go!

Katharine - Meh. Safe until the top four, or two.

Kellie – Not half bad. A lot of effort

Paris – Way too much costume. OK vocal.

Overall.

Katharine  
Chris  
Bucky  
Elliot  
Paris  
Kellie

Ace  
Taylor

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**Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-start-an-ai-thread-and-nobody-posts-does-it-make-a-sound-american-idol-4-11/352246/162 "2006-04-12T19:08:37Z")

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When Taylor changed his song choice (Queen guys: Oh, you’ve got to be kidding me! 😛 ) because he wanted to **“dance”**!! :eek: :rolleyes: :eek: Please, please reconsider next time.

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As for Kellie and Bohemian Rhapsody…okay, notwithstanding the fact that this has to be one of the most overrated songs ever (and why the hell was there no backlash after the radio hyper-oversaturation after Wayne’s World was released?\*), I suppose it’s a viable go-for-the-green choice for the _right_ singer. That singer is not Kellie Pickler. For one thing, it’s pretty tough to get the tempo and emotion changes right. For another, it has a bunch of funny words. My guess is that Kellie doesn’t know the first thing about classic rock and just grabbed at the one Queen song that she could remember, having been continuously drilled into her skull during the theatrical run of Wayne’s World. 🙂

Tough break, I guess. Doesn’t matter, though; she’s probably gone within two weeks no matter what happens.

Taylor, it looks to me, just wants to go out with a bang and give the audience something to remember him by. Even though he’s not the best singer by a long shot, I gotta appreciate him for doing that. He has a viable career ahead of him, one that won’t be locked down by the deal the winner’s going to get.

Chris, as I said before, belongs in a band. Great voice, loves what he’s doing, but doesn’t fit into the pop idol mold and can’t generate buzz on his own? C’mon, this is a no-brainer.

- And of course, what makes this even more ridiculous is that hardly any of it is in the movie. Wayne starts at the “slihouetta of a man” part, which is then _cut off_, and then we hear maybe two thirds of the closing. Did the nine-second rendition of Mickey justify overexposing that corny cheerleader group again?

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[QUOTE=vaderspal]  
What?? I disagree with everyone. I thought Ace did better than he has in ages. I’d put him on par with Bucky, at least. I thought they both did a lot better than I expected.

As did Kellie, much as I hate to admit it. She still looked like a Stepford Wife, programed to “rock” mode, but until the last 10 seconds of the song, where it all fell apart, she did pretty well.  
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I preferred it to her last two country performances, I think her taste in country music sucks as of late…Suds in a Bucket and Fancy? I’m half expecting her to come out some night and sing Charlene’s "I’ve Been to Paradise (But I’ve Never Been to Me) after that other sappy dreck.

Barbara

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[QUOTE=Guy Incognito]

[QUOTE=foolsguinea]  
Um, extricating my foot from my mouth. Of course, it was written in 1991. I didn’t think about the songs from right before Mercury died. I was thinking about how Queen never performed Bohemian Rhapsody live, of course.

> [@](#):
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> Just wanted to point out that you can see Queen performing “Bohemian Rhapsody” on the “Live at Wembley Stadium” DVD, so apparently it might have been a concert staple at some point.
> 
> I’m not picking up on the love for Taylor’s performance tonight. He seemed a little too “drunk uncle at the wedding reception” for my taste. He’ll rack up a few bucks on the State Fair circuit, but that’s all I see in his future.
> 
> I’m surprised that Bucky didn’t sing “Crazy Little Thing Called Love”. Dwight Yoakum did a decent version of it which had a country spin, so I figured that Bucky would follow suit. Actually, Taylor and Bucky would have been better off trading songs now that I think about it.
> 
> Rapid fire impressions of last night performances:
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> Bucky: Wrong song and boring performance
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> Ace: Weak voice and can’t work the stage
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> Elliot: Okay, but listen to the original song before attempting to sing it
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> Chris: Too much “goat”. Hint: most people put the vibrator in the other end.
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> Taylor: Looked like he would careen into the audience. The vocals should have been easy, but he failed to pull it off. WTF?
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> Katherine: Looked great, but the vocals hurt my ears.
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> Kelly: Nasal and twangy in parts, but not the disaster it should have been.
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> Paris: Good vocals, but I understood the weird vibe that Simon mentioned.
> 
> Here’s how I predict the audience will vote, not how I would vote:
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> Top 3 in no particular order:
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> Paris  
> Bucky  
> Chris
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> Bottom 3 in no particular order:
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> Ace  
> Taylor  
> Kelly

Here’s my thinking..,no one really stands out in both the voice and “star quality”. Kelly Clarkson was a lucky fluke. There hasn’t been a real star from AI since. Lets be honest, When are they going to start stylizing these guys! Elliot has a great voice but he just isn’t good looking enough to win. Kelly is cute, but dumber than a rock and not the best singer in the bunch. Ace is eye candy as has been said but give me a break, he’s trying to tell Queen how to sound? PLEEEEEZ! He just douses’t have enough of what is takes. Bucky should have gone long ago ect.., nobodys left, or to begin with, as far as that goes has had what it takes this season. They got lucky with Kelly Clarkson.

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Taylor’s mom looks younger than he does.

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Elliott, Ace, and Bucky.

PLEASE let it be Ace.

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[QUOTE=JeffB]  
Elliott, Ace, and Bucky.

PLEASE let it be Ace.  
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Ditto.

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Darn.

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Damn :(. Another week of Ace…

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We will never get rid of Ace. He’ll be in the top three along with Katherine and Kellie and it will be the saddest thing ever.

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☹

I don’t think I’ve ever been this sad to see someone go. I never expected him to win but he was very likable to me and I certainly didn’t want him gone before Ace or Katherine.

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I actually CRIED when Bucky got booted. I didn’t realize I was getting this involved with a freakin’ TV show!

I’m gona miss my Bucky Boy. I really thought it would be Eye Candy Ace this week.

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[QUOTE=Accidental Yuppie]  
I preferred it to her last two country performances, I think her taste in country music sucks as of late…Suds in a Bucket and Fancy? I’m half expecting her to come out some night and sing Charlene’s "I’ve Been to Paradise (But I’ve Never Been to Me) after that other sappy dreck.

Barbara  
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Hey! What’s wrong with “Suds in a Bucket” and “Fancy”? I enjoy both songs, but I do definately perfer Sara Evans doing “Suds”. Kellie did pretty decent on “Fancy” though.

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Aww…that sucks. I didn’t think Bucky was the best singer but he might have been the most likable of the whole lot. ☹

Ace is getting to be like having gum on your shoe. You keep thinking it’s going to fall off and it never does.

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Sheesh! Another week of Ace? Arrgghh! I hope that his sarcastic “I love you, too, guys” to the judges might help take away some votes for next week. Okay, he’s pretty but he can’t sing and he’s a snot, enough already!  
So next week is Rod Stewart and The Classics, any idea what this means song wise? Songs that Rod has covered or just songs from the eras that he has covered? This might be a tough one for Chris. I think Paris will shine. Ace will suck as usual.

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Oh for the love of pete! Taylor and Ace are still in the competition and _Bucky_ goes home? Shit. I should have voted last night. Those hormonal teenagers voting for Ace have got to be stopped.

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I called the bottom three, but had no earthly idea who it would be. My dad called Bucky even before the bottom three were announced. We like Bucky at my house! We knew he’d never win, but we thought he was fun. Bye Bucky!

On another note, does anyone else think Elliott gets cuter every week? He’ll never be the kind of eye candy Ace or Chris is, but he’s definitely improving. And I loved the shot of him crying! While my husband has probably only cried twice in his life, I grew up with my dad the crybaby, and I think it’s so sweet! Everyone I was watching with tonight was on tenterhooks that it would be Elliott.

PLEASE LET IT BE ACE NEXT WEEK!!!

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[QUOTE=PunditLisa]  
Oh for the love of pete! Taylor and Ace are still in the competition and _Bucky_ goes home? Shit. I should have voted last night. Those hormonal teenagers voting for Ace have got to be stopped.  
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They’re trying to get rid of Ace; he’s been bottom three more weeks than most. He’s managed to slip ahead of someone every time, but statistically speaking, he’s a dead man walking.

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Damn, I liked Bucky.

Speaking of crying, did I hear the Pickler say “snotrag?” Good Lord… (I was in the kitchen, and couldn’t hear very well.)

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