# If You Support Gun Control In The U.S., What Do You Want Specifically \[Poll\] **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [November 27, 2017, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-support-gun-control-in-the-u-s-what-do-you-want-specifically-poll/802869 "2017-11-27T14:20:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-support-gun-control-in-the-u-s-what-do-you-want-specifically-poll/802869/21 "2017-11-27T19:03:47Z")
> [@Doctor\_Jackson](#): > > That’s going to make bird hunting damned tough. Builds character. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-support-gun-control-in-the-u-s-what-do-you-want-specifically-poll/802869/22 "2017-11-27T19:05:02Z")
> [@Doctor\_Jackson](#): > > That’s going to make bird hunting damned tough. Hitting a bird in flight with a hand-gun. Now, THAT is what I call Gun Control! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Disheavel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e274bd/32.png) [@Disheavel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disheavel)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-support-gun-control-in-the-u-s-what-do-you-want-specifically-poll/802869/23 "2017-11-27T19:07:15Z")
> [@Doctor\_Jackson](#): > > That’s going to make bird hunting damned tough. Maybe the flocks will return to what they once were and then the density would mitigate the need for a shotgun! Or maybe it will go back to being a sport… or trapping comes back. Or perhaps we could just eat the ones that we raise for food. Lots of options are readily apparent once we stop thinking with our little “guns”. ---
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-support-gun-control-in-the-u-s-what-do-you-want-specifically-poll/802869/24 "2017-11-27T19:21:05Z")
> [@Twoflower](#): > > Gun owner licenses should be required along the same lines as drivers licenses. Required training class, including demonstrated competence at a practice range. People post this line all the time. Are untrained/undertrained gun owners that big of a problem in this country? Whenever some madman guns down 50+ people do you really think if he’d been better trained he wouldn’t have done that? I just don’t see lack of gun training being that high on the list compared to other problems associated with firearms. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-support-gun-control-in-the-u-s-what-do-you-want-specifically-poll/802869/25 "2017-11-27T19:26:42Z")
> [@Twoflower](#): > > Gun owner licenses should be required along the same lines as drivers licenses. Required training class, including demonstrated competence at a practice range. License revoked for [RINGER HUT USA](http://www.ringerhut-usa.com/rh/) etc. > . Note that you don’t need (at least in CA) a drivers license to _own_ a car, just to drive one on a public road/highway. In CA (at least) you need a license to carry a gun in public. In most (all?) states you need a license to carry a concealed weapon. Gun ownership rights are revoked for felonies and domestic violence under current law. For the record, I would support laws banning the further sale or import of magazines over 10 rounds. I would make instant background checks a thing. ---
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-support-gun-control-in-the-u-s-what-do-you-want-specifically-poll/802869/26 "2017-11-27T20:11:45Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > In most (all?) states you need a license to carry a concealed weapon. In more than a quarter of all states there is “constitutional carry” where one needs no permit or license to conceal. Also, in most states a license or permit is not needed to open carry. They don’t seem to be having problems with this and there are no major efforts on either end of the political spectrum to repeal any of these laws. Yet some people still imagine problems where none exist. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-support-gun-control-in-the-u-s-what-do-you-want-specifically-poll/802869/27 "2017-11-27T20:50:57Z")
Off the top of my head: Reinstate the assault weapons ban Limit the number of bullets per clip Universal Background checks and “common sense” as far as who is not allowed to buy a gun. Fun Fact: Trump redefined a “Fugitive from Justice” as someone who crosses state lines so someone who is a fugitive and is still in state would not even fail a background check. Strict Concealed Carry laws that require training classes and a demonstrable need to have one. A repeal of all “Stand Your Ground laws”. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-support-gun-control-in-the-u-s-what-do-you-want-specifically-poll/802869/28 "2017-11-27T20:54:32Z")
I don’t see any options in the poll that would allow state-by-state (or finer) distinctions. Guns aren’t a big problem in Montana, but they are in Chicago or Los Angeles. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-support-gun-control-in-the-u-s-what-do-you-want-specifically-poll/802869/29 "2017-11-27T20:57:34Z")
> [@pkbites](#): > > In more than a quarter of all states there is “constitutional carry” where one needs no permit or license to conceal. Also, in most states a license or permit is not needed to open carry. They don’t seem to be having problems with this and there are no major efforts on either end of the political spectrum to repeal any of these laws. > > Yet some people still imagine problems where none exist. There most certainly IS a gun problem in this country. The only bona fide debate has to do with the best (most effective, most feasible, most legal, etc.) solution. ---
**Author:** ![Twoflower](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/twoflower/32/22_2.png) [@Twoflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Twoflower)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-support-gun-control-in-the-u-s-what-do-you-want-specifically-poll/802869/30 "2017-11-27T21:49:19Z")
Licensing & training wouldn’t be just about mass shooters. Hopefully, it could also reduce the incidents of toddlers finding a loose gun laying around, hunters killing their neighbors thinking they’re shooting a deer, overzealous home defenders shooting their own relatives in the dark, etc. But yeah, potential mass shooters may be more likely to get flagged as unlicensable if the system worked. It’s also about structuring the legalities of gun ownership in a manner that we’re familiar with, so maybe enforcement and compliance would be better, and it would be simpler to tweak the regulations when conditions warrant. Not every common-sense adjustment to gun regulations should literally require and act of congress. ---
**Author:** ![Lamoral](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lamoral/32/16078_2.png) [@Lamoral](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamoral)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-support-gun-control-in-the-u-s-what-do-you-want-specifically-poll/802869/31 "2017-11-27T21:49:51Z")
I picked “common sense,” but in a different way than most people imagine. I think there should be far stricter penalties for a felon in possession of a firearm. There should be a mandatory minimum sentence of 10 years with no possibility of parole, for being a felon in possession of a firearm. That should be a federal law with absolutely no loopholes whatsoever. If we did this, the gun homicide rate would go WAY down. ---
**Author:** ![Chicagojeff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@Chicagojeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chicagojeff)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-support-gun-control-in-the-u-s-what-do-you-want-specifically-poll/802869/32 "2017-11-27T22:02:40Z")
A couple of things in my line of work I would like to see… (law enforcement) registry and either a fine or misdemeanor charges for failure to report stolen weapons… ---
**Author:** ![Chicagojeff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@Chicagojeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chicagojeff)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-support-gun-control-in-the-u-s-what-do-you-want-specifically-poll/802869/33 "2017-11-27T22:04:24Z")
> [@Jacquernagy](#): > > I picked “common sense,” but in a different way than most people imagine. I think there should be far stricter penalties for a felon in possession of a firearm. There should be a mandatory minimum sentence of 10 years with no possibility of parole, for being a felon in possession of a firearm. That should be a federal law with absolutely no loopholes whatsoever. If we did this, the gun homicide rate would go WAY down. Anytime we’ve seen federal or state mandatory minimums I dont think the desire effect has happened. What usually happens is like three strikes… you get some outlier case and the judge’s hands are tied… and then the legislation looks ridiculous ---
**Author:** ![2nd\_Law](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/f475e1/32.png) [@2nd\_Law](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2nd_Law)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-support-gun-control-in-the-u-s-what-do-you-want-specifically-poll/802869/34 "2017-11-27T22:15:15Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > I don’t see any options in the poll that would allow state-by-state (or finer) distinctions. Guns aren’t a big problem in Montana, but they are in Chicago or Los Angeles. I agree with this, and suggest an amendment to the Constitution similar to the 21st amendment (repealing prohibition, the 18th amendment). Based on the 21st, it would read something like: > [@](#): > > Section 1. The second article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States is hereby repealed. > > Section 2. The transportation or importation into any State, Territory, or possession of the United States for delivery or use therein of firearms, in violation of the laws thereof, is hereby prohibited. > > Section 3. This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by conventions in the several States, as provided in the Constitution, within seven years from the date of the submission hereof to the States by the Congress. Then the individual states can decide, ---
**Author:** ![FairyChatMom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fairychatmom/32/22080_2.png) [@FairyChatMom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FairyChatMom)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-support-gun-control-in-the-u-s-what-do-you-want-specifically-poll/802869/35 "2017-11-27T22:16:39Z")
“Common sense” to include mandatory training, and perhaps some control on the sale of ammo also. I wouldn’t want a gun myself, but I don’t care if someone else has one, provided they know how to handle it and store it and they don’t act like a macho gun-slinger. If you feel the need to walk into McDonald’s with a rifle slung over your shoulder, I’m going to think you’re a potentially dangerous whack-job, not the proverbial “good guy with a gun.” I wish there was an easy answer, but this is such an emotionally charged topic, I fear we’ll never come up with a good common sense solution. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-support-gun-control-in-the-u-s-what-do-you-want-specifically-poll/802869/36 "2017-11-27T23:15:57Z")
> [@Chicagojeff](#): > > A couple of things in my line of work I would like to see… (law enforcement) registry and either a fine or misdemeanor charges for failure to report stolen weapons… What happens if the victim claims he didnt know the gun was stolen? ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-support-gun-control-in-the-u-s-what-do-you-want-specifically-poll/802869/37 "2017-11-27T23:28:58Z")
> [@Doctor\_Jackson](#): > > That’s going to make bird hunting damned tough. Not for the birds. End game, I support the idea of only cops and soldiers having guns, and even then, only under certain circumstances or (in the case of cops) specific units. I do not support door-to-door confiscation, and I understand that this is still not a workable solution within the next several lifetimes. ---
**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-support-gun-control-in-the-u-s-what-do-you-want-specifically-poll/802869/38 "2017-11-28T00:41:18Z")
> [@Disheavel](#): > > Maybe the flocks will return to what they once were and then the density would mitigate the need for a shotgun! Or maybe it will go back to being a sport… or trapping comes back. Or perhaps we could just eat the ones that we raise for food. Lots of options are readily apparent once we stop thinking with our little “guns”. you mean like Canada Geese? 'cos last I checked we’re overrun with the nasty fuckers even with hunting. I love listening to people who’ve never been outside of their urban bubble talk about hunting and hunters. and honestly I hate the term “common sense” gun laws. because 100% of the time “common sense” is defined as “what I think should happen.” ---
**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-support-gun-control-in-the-u-s-what-do-you-want-specifically-poll/802869/39 "2017-11-28T00:50:26Z")
Pretty much the same as Motor Vehicle control. Nobody gets one unless they demonstrate capacity for responsible use. Serious penalties for dangerous or irresponsible usage. None permitted if not compliant with reasonable rules of the road or practical utility. Liability insurance to protect victims of misuse or poor judgment, and judicial authority to hold owners/users criminally responsible for negligence. ---
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-support-gun-control-in-the-u-s-what-do-you-want-specifically-poll/802869/40 "2017-11-28T01:59:13Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > There most certainly IS a gun problem in this country. And you can show those problems stem from constitutional carry laws? Which is what My post was about. If you’re going to reply to my posts I’d appreciate it if you’d address what I actually said and not what you’re imagining I said. States that have constitutional carry laws have not reported overall problems with those laws. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-support-gun-control-in-the-u-s-what-do-you-want-specifically-poll/802869.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-support-gun-control-in-the-u-s-what-do-you-want-specifically-poll/802869.md?page=3)