# If you were a fan of Babylon 5

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-a-fan-of-babylon-5/976490>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** tv-shows-scripted\
**Created:** [December 14, 2022, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-a-fan-of-babylon-5/976490 "2022-12-14T01:29:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![markn\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@markn\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markn_1)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-a-fan-of-babylon-5/976490/21 "2022-12-14T21:00:58Z")

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“I am called Valen, and we have much work ahead of us.”

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-a-fan-of-babylon-5/976490/22 "2022-12-14T21:06:04Z")

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“Vir, there is a terrible truth: As one accumulates power, one loses friends. One only has those who wish to use you, and those you wish to use. And yet, in all of this, **you** have somehow managed to walk through the corridors of power and not be touched. I can only assume you have not been paying attention. And still, the hideous truth is, **you** are the closest thing I have to a friend. I’m as shocked and dismayed by this as you are, but there it is. I need a friend, Vir, and I need a patriot, and you are both. Will you help me, please?”

“Oh, and you mentioned wondering what my pleasure threshold is. I just recently found out. … I don’t have one. Have a very, very nice day, G’Kar.”

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-a-fan-of-babylon-5/976490/23 "2022-12-14T21:12:07Z")

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“Abrahamo Lincolni?”

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**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-a-fan-of-babylon-5/976490/24 "2022-12-14T21:13:43Z")

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“Narns, humans, Centauri, we all do what we do for the same reason: because it seemed like a good idea at the time.”

“You weren’t the only one touched by the Vorlons.”

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**Author:** ![LurkMeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@LurkMeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkMeister)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-a-fan-of-babylon-5/976490/25 "2022-12-14T21:15:56Z")

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Many of my favorites have already been mentioned, but this is one that tickled my fancy:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/RX4i4eN5YW8/maxresdefault.jpg "Babylon 5: Vir attacks the Drazi that bugged the ambassador’s room") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RX4i4eN5YW8)

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-a-fan-of-babylon-5/976490/26 "2022-12-14T22:36:06Z")

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My father used to say “My shoes are too tight, but it doesn’t matter, because I have forgotten how to dance”. I never understood him at the time. But now, Vir, my shoes are too tight, and I have forgotten how to dance.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2022, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-a-fan-of-babylon-5/976490/27 "2022-12-15T00:08:50Z")

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“What’s next on the list?”  
“Sector 87/20/42. At least a dozen ships have reported seeing something rather godlike in the area, and since neither you nor I were there, it must be one of the First Ones.”  
“You are having delusions of grandeur again.”  
“Well, if you’re gonna have delusions, you may as well go for the really **satisfying** ones.”

[brickbat lingerie]

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2022, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-a-fan-of-babylon-5/976490/28 "2022-12-15T18:56:40Z")

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“I can only assume I am paying off Karma at a vastly accelerated rate.”

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**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2022, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-a-fan-of-babylon-5/976490/29 "2022-12-17T14:13:52Z")

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Damn, this thread is gonna trigger a rewatch - of the first four seasons and _Sleeping in Light_ anyway.

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2022, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-a-fan-of-babylon-5/976490/30 "2022-12-17T15:27:15Z")

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“I stopped looking into mirrors.”

“Zoot, zoot.”

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**Author:** ![Ponderoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponderoid/32/19221_2.png) [@Ponderoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponderoid)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2022, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-a-fan-of-babylon-5/976490/31 "2022-12-17T15:49:50Z")

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> [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](#):
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> this thread is gonna trigger a rewatch

Here, hit all the high points in a few minutes:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/aXEG124MDwM/hqdefault.jpg "Babylon 5 - Fan Music Video - Filk") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXEG124MDwM)

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2022, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-a-fan-of-babylon-5/976490/32 "2022-12-17T15:50:56Z")

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Upon seeing ghostly images walking the halls of Babylon 5, Sinclair rubs his eyes and mutters, “I must be tired.”

The _entire_ elevator scene with G’kar and Londo. (Where they are stuck after the bombing and think they might die.) I tried to pick a quote, but the whole thing was too excellent to choose.

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2022, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-a-fan-of-babylon-5/976490/33 "2022-12-17T17:33:34Z")

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> [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](#):
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> Damn, this thread is gonna trigger a rewatch - of the first four seasons and _Sleeping in Light_ anyway.

Yes… sadly (for my BluRay drive) I just finished upgrading my NAS from 2 TB to 6… and now I guess it’s time for all those B5 DVDs to live on in my home media server!

-Raises fist in rage to thread-

How dare you make me watch something GOOD again rather than endless videos of people scratching their heads trying to explain just how freaking wrong about basic facts certain people are!

Back to topic, a quote that indicates my irritation and why -

**Susan Ivanova** : I’m in the middle of fifteen things, all of them annoying.

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**Author:** ![Icerigger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icerigger/32/432_2.png) [@Icerigger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icerigger)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2022, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-a-fan-of-babylon-5/976490/34 "2022-12-17T18:22:35Z")

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“Issue the statement, I will sign my name… but not on the same page.” G’Kar

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**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-a-fan-of-babylon-5/976490/35 "2022-12-18T22:17:27Z")

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The “One Moment of Perfect Beauty.”

The dream Sheridan has while captured aboard the Strieb ship. “What are _you_ doing here?” Sheridan says to Kosh.

“I have _always_ been here.”

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**Author:** ![TheTooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/919ad9/32.png) [@TheTooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheTooth)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-a-fan-of-babylon-5/976490/36 "2022-12-19T03:05:28Z")

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“How will this end?”  
“In fire.”

I’m all about the Vorlons.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-a-fan-of-babylon-5/976490/37 "2022-12-19T04:22:40Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Morden: What are you going to do, blow up your own island?

> Londo: "Actually…(pause – turns around, walks a few steps) now that you mention it … "  
> (pause, turns back around, looks straight at Morden, showing a remote in his hand; smirks)

When Londo paused after “actually” I just knew…

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-a-fan-of-babylon-5/976490/38 "2022-12-19T20:19:05Z")

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Any scene with Londo and G’Kar is awesome.

My favorite episode was the one where they were stuck in an elevator together.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-a-fan-of-babylon-5/976490/39 "2022-12-19T21:17:13Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> When Londo paused after “actually” I just knew…

I love how they built up Morden being in control and calm. Seeing him freak out was amazing.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-a-fan-of-babylon-5/976490/40 "2022-12-19T21:25:41Z")

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That entire scene and its epilogue rocked. From Londo warning Morden not to move, to the button pushing, to the little wave. So many things were semi-paid off in just a couple of minutes.

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