# If You Were a Muppet...

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-a-muppet/51144
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share
**Created:** [January 21, 2001, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-a-muppet/51144 "2001-01-21T18:45:30Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Persephone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecc23a/32.png) [@Persephone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Persephone)
#### Post date: [January 21, 2001, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-a-muppet/51144/21 "2001-01-21T22:33:27Z")

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> I never remember the guys name, but he’s the Rasta-type guy with the the purple dreads and pink skin. I find myself to be a lot like him. I wear a lot of hawaiin shirts…

His name is Clifford. And yeah, he’s way cool.

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> I would be the Count from Seasme Street (don’t know if that counts, but they look like muppets).

Oh yeah, they’re Muppets. Sesame Street is where the Muppets got famous (Kermit got his start on another old variety show–can’t remember which one, though. Maybe PRNYouth knows?)

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### Author: ![Juggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/juggler/32/3194_2.png) [@Juggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Juggler)
#### Post date: [January 21, 2001, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-a-muppet/51144/22 "2001-01-21T22:41:50Z")

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I would be right along with **Democritus** and heckle everyone. Although in real life I do this in front of the people I heckle always hoping they will understand that I’m just teasing.

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### Author: ![Juniper200](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@Juniper200](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Juniper200)
#### Post date: [January 21, 2001, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-a-muppet/51144/23 "2001-01-21T22:43:13Z")

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Kermit’s genesis was on the show _Sam and Friends_, but that was before he was clearly identified as a frog. For most (all?) of the show’s run, he lacked the “collar” of light green pointy stuff around his neck and was just a lizardy-thing.

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### Author: ![PRNYouth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9dc877/32.png) [@PRNYouth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PRNYouth)
#### Post date: [January 21, 2001, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-a-muppet/51144/24 "2001-01-21T22:54:45Z")

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> _Originally posted by Persephone_  
> Kermit got his start on another old variety show–can’t remember which one, though. Maybe PRNYouth knows?

As I preview this, I notice that **Juniper200** beat me to it, but I’ll post anyway. A pre-frog Kermit got his start on a program called _Sam and Friends_ Jim Henson did on a DC-area station. Kermit was _sans_ the nifty pointed collar, and often lip-synched to records with a very different voice, but it was his start in show-business. Sesame Street was his big break, though. What I’m not sure of is how early he was identified as a frog on Sesame Street. He was clearly a frog by 1972, though, when he starred in _The Frog Prince_. (Robin was the prince, not Kermit, but Kermit was still clearly a frog.) What you may have been thinking of, **Persephone** , was Rowlf the Dog, who was the first Muppet to receive national exposure, and that was on the old Jimmy Dean variety show.

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> _Originally posted by Palmyra_  
> I think I would be Gonzo. I really am a kooky person and half the time what I say goes over people’s heads and all I get is a bunch of puzzled looks. I don’t have a Bernice the Chicken though\*

Gonzo’s girlfriend was _Camilla_ the Chicken. There wasn’t much mention of her in the recent _Muppets From Space_, though. I suspect _ **fowl** _ play. 🙂

Muppet cop, at your service. 😃

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### Author: ![woolly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ebca7d/32.png) [@woolly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woolly)
#### Post date: [January 21, 2001, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-a-muppet/51144/25 "2001-01-21T23:05:11Z")

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I can relate deeply to \*\* The Swedish Chef \*\*. 🙂

Reminiscing … turtle neck soup … nut cutlets … chocolate moose … Oh dear, if I’d laughed any more I’d have gone from incoherent to incontinent! 😃

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### Author: ![Odieman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a87d85/32.png) [@Odieman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odieman)
#### Post date: [January 22, 2001, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-a-muppet/51144/26 "2001-01-22T00:04:02Z")

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Another vote for Fozzy, I sympathise with him trying gamely even though he was the worst comic with the worst jokes, he always plugged away…either that or Link Hearthrob…I always wonder if William Shatner recognized himself…

Keith

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### Author: ![Angkins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/fbc32d/32.png) [@Angkins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angkins)
#### Post date: [January 22, 2001, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-a-muppet/51144/27 "2001-01-22T00:08:23Z")

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Sometimes I feel just like Beaker… but feminine 😉

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### Author: ![nashiitashii](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7c8e57/32.png) [@nashiitashii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nashiitashii)
#### Post date: [January 22, 2001, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-a-muppet/51144/28 "2001-01-22T00:24:37Z")

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I’d be Gonzo with a big heaping of self esteem. He always seemed so insecure… Uhm, anyone else got a clue which muppet I’d be? I’m stumped.

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### Author: ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)
#### Post date: [January 22, 2001, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-a-muppet/51144/29 "2001-01-22T00:29:42Z")

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I’d be a mutation of Kermit (regular-Joe under pressure), Scooter (efficient, but overlooked) and Beaker (always wondering what the hell I’m doing here). Also, I used to have Beaker-like hair.

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### Author: ![spark\_applied\_to\_powder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@spark\_applied\_to\_powder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spark_applied_to_powder)
#### Post date: [January 22, 2001, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-a-muppet/51144/30 "2001-01-22T00:33:01Z")

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I like Kermit best, but I’d hate to be green. It’s just not good on me.  
Maybe one of the exotic yellow and black varieties.

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### Author: ![Kat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b19c9b/32.png) [@Kat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kat)
#### Post date: [January 22, 2001, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-a-muppet/51144/31 "2001-01-22T01:05:44Z")

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Animal or Cookie Monster or a combination of the two.

_C is for Cookie, that’s good enough for me!_

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### Author: ![Fairy\_Princess\_Kitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/df705f/32.png) [@Fairy\_Princess\_Kitty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fairy_Princess_Kitty)
#### Post date: [January 22, 2001, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-a-muppet/51144/32 "2001-01-22T01:21:29Z")

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I’d probably be grover, but a girl. I do have the tendency to be over enthusiastic and jumpy and bouncy and spazz about little things. At least outwardly I’m so grover, all out going and cheery and stuff.

Kitty

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### Author: ![Persephone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecc23a/32.png) [@Persephone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Persephone)
#### Post date: [January 22, 2001, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-a-muppet/51144/33 "2001-01-22T01:56:33Z")

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> What you may have been thinking of, Persephone, was Rowlf the Dog, who was the first Muppet to receive national exposure, and that was on the old Jimmy Dean variety show.

YES! Thank you, PRNY! That is indeed what I was thinking of! Dang. I love it when Dopers get psychic!

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> Gonzo’s girlfriend was Camilla the Chicken. There wasn’t much mention of her in the recent Muppets From Space, though. I suspect fowl play.

I was trying to remember her name, too, but it was escaping me.

Oh, IMHO, the opening scene from _Muppets from Space_ is one of the all-time best pieces of Muppet choreography, ever.

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### Author: ![hampster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/53a042/32.png) [@hampster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hampster)
#### Post date: [January 22, 2001, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-a-muppet/51144/34 "2001-01-22T02:02:49Z")

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Wembley Fraggle

I’m Canadian, and I can be just a bit just a bit indecisive  
at times.

Okay, completely fraught with doubt.

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### Author: ![hypergirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/49beb7/32.png) [@hypergirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hypergirl)
#### Post date: [January 22, 2001, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-a-muppet/51144/35 "2001-01-22T02:54:21Z")

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You do realize that half the characters you people are mentioning are not Muppets, but Sesame Street. They are not the same thing.

That being said, I kinda like Fozzie. “Wokka wokka wokka” 😛

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### Author: ![hampster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/53a042/32.png) [@hampster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hampster)
#### Post date: [January 22, 2001, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-a-muppet/51144/36 "2001-01-22T03:10:36Z")

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> hypergirl  
> You do realize that half the characters you people are mentioning are not Muppets, but Sesame Street.  
> They are not the same thing.

You forget The Muppet Family Christmas,  
[LINK](http://www.henson.com/television/specials/tv_specials_mupfam.html)  
Which clearly demonstrates that Muppets, Fraggles, and  
everyone from Sesame Street exist in the same universe.

No, I don’t need to go out and get a life. 🙂

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### Author: ![screech-owl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/82dd89/32.png) [@screech-owl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/screech-owl)
#### Post date: [January 22, 2001, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-a-muppet/51144/37 "2001-01-22T03:16:28Z")

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> \*Originally posted by hypergirl \*  
> **You do realize that half the characters you people are mentioning are not Muppets, but Sesame Street. They are not the same thing…**

How are they not the same?? The OP is not referring to “The Muppet Show” specifically. Muppets are found on “Sesame Street”, “The Muppet Show” and its various movies, “Fraggle Rock”, etc. Most are the ‘half-bodied, wires-from-below-connected-to-the-arms’ puppets that we know and love. Others like Sweetums, Big Bird, and Snuffletc. are full costumed charaters, but still fall under the generic ‘Muppet’ heading (the trademark/copyright symbol eludes me). (When the Muppet 3D attraction was slated to open at Disney MGM, [around the time of Jim Henson’s death, IIRC], there was quite a uproar regarding trademarks and rights and definition of “muppet” between the Henson Corporation and Disney.)

A Sesame Street muppet character is still a Muppet.  
A Fraggle Rock muppet character is still a Muppet.

[sub]Gah, I am tired, I canot believe I am debating the intrisic qualities of a muppet.[/sub]

Myself - dunno - part “Sam the Eagle”, part “Bunsen Honeydew”

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### Author: ![evilbeth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/evilbeth/32/2268_2.png) [@evilbeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/evilbeth)
#### Post date: [January 22, 2001, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-a-muppet/51144/38 "2001-01-22T06:54:02Z")

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I think I relate to Ernie more than any other Muppet–I even laugh like him sometimes when I’ve done something rather sneaky! Plus, I have a shirt just like his! Also, I detailed it [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=16258&pagenumber=2) before but my favorite Muppet still has to be the weasel from _Muppet Classic Fairy Tales_–sometimes I feel like him/her!

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### Author: ![andygirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9adbd/32.png) [@andygirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andygirl)
#### Post date: [January 22, 2001, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-a-muppet/51144/39 "2001-01-22T07:09:26Z")

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Kermit, I suppose.

Actually, I’d like to be his little nephew Robin. “I’m five…”

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### Author: ![Palmyra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/57b2e6/32.png) [@Palmyra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palmyra)
#### Post date: [January 22, 2001, 9:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-a-muppet/51144/40 "2001-01-22T09:05:34Z")

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> \*Originally posted by PRNYouth \*  
> \*\*Gonzo’s girlfriend was _Camilla_ the Chicken. There wasn’t much mention of her in the recent _Muppets From Space_, though. I suspect _ **fowl** _ play. 🙂
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> Muppet cop, at your service. 😃 \*\*

:eek:  
then where the f\*ck did i get Bernice?? this is weird…

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