# If you were Obama, what would you be drinking at today's "beer summit"?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** beer\
**Created:** [July 30, 2009, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-obama-what-would-you-be-drinking-at-todays-beer-summit/504770 "2009-07-30T13:16:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-obama-what-would-you-be-drinking-at-todays-beer-summit/504770/61 "2009-07-30T19:51:14Z")

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> [@Sitnam](#):
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> [Black and Tan](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_and_Tan)

That was my thought… go Seinfeld on their asses.

I guess if the President wants to look impartial, he can keep his beer can wrapped in the little brown paper bag.

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**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-obama-what-would-you-be-drinking-at-todays-beer-summit/504770/62 "2009-07-30T19:51:22Z")

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> [@bup](#):
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> Something from either Goose Island (Chicago Brewery) or Three Floyd’s (a real microbrewery in northern Indiana).

Hell yeah.

As for people liking Bud/Bud Light, when I worked in a Michelin-starred restaurant on the west coast of Scotland (at the Aird’s Hotel in Port Appin, circa 1996), the staff, one day after work, said they were going out to buy beers, what do I want. I said I wanted something like a McEwan’s. They looked at me incredulously. “Really? We drink Bud around here. Don’t you? You’re American.” At first, I thought they were taking the piss. But, no, they actually did drink Bud and I just went along with it, saying “Bud’s fine.” I even have a picture of us somewhere carrying that case of Bud from the store. I wasn’t really a beer connoisseur back then, but I was a little surprised.

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**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-obama-what-would-you-be-drinking-at-todays-beer-summit/504770/63 "2009-07-30T20:00:22Z")

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> [@Odesio](#):
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> As hard as it might be to believe there are actually millions of people who like Bud Light. Obama might actually be one of those people.

I had it for the first time in eight years at a party last weekend where it was the only option. I expected to discover that while other beers might taste better to me, I had let my beer snobbery get in the way of the fact that Bud Light was a perfectly adequate, if somewhat bland and watery, alcoholic beverage for a hot night…surely, I thought, it couldn’t taste as terrible and unbeerlike as I remembered.

I hadn’t, it wasn’t, and it could.

I took a sip (plastic cup, from keg operated by professional bartenders), and it tasted like water and foam. Another sip…still no flavor of beer. Still no flavor of _anything_. There was a beerish smell, but otherwise it was like I was drinking frothy, pale golden, slightly sour water. I don’t mean it was bad beer or weak beer. Not “oh, this beer isn’t as flavorful as the beers I’m used to,” or “oh, this beer doesn’t taste very strong,” or “oh, this beer is pretty watery.” No, I mean I literally could not taste any but the faintest hint of beer in my cup of Bud Light. Like, maybe one beer molecule per hundred parts of water. It was astonishing.

Really weird how people’s palates can differ so much that people would willingly put that in their mouths on a regular basis.

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**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-obama-what-would-you-be-drinking-at-todays-beer-summit/504770/64 "2009-07-30T20:17:35Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> [Old Frothingslosh](http://www.rustycans.com/HISTORY/oldfroth.html)😉
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> If that’s the case, then shouldn’t Gates have asked for 'ahrn?

The place Gates is from (Piedmont, WV) is closer to Cumberland, MD than Pittsburgh, so he might not know about Ahrn City. Are there any Maryland breweries?

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**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-obama-what-would-you-be-drinking-at-todays-beer-summit/504770/65 "2009-07-30T20:24:17Z")

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> [@enomaj](#):
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> Crown Royal. You can use the purple bag to keep the nuclear codes in. 😃

The nuclear codes are printed on exotically-sided gaming dice?

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**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-obama-what-would-you-be-drinking-at-todays-beer-summit/504770/66 "2009-07-30T20:29:21Z")

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Nothing.

I wouldn’t have been stupid enough to have escalated that whole affair the way he did.

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**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-obama-what-would-you-be-drinking-at-todays-beer-summit/504770/67 "2009-07-30T20:31:53Z")

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> [@mswas](#):
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> Are you also going to boycott China over it’s treatment of Tibetans, Uighurs and Industrial laborers?
> 
> Solidarity Forever man!

Do the Chinese make any booze I can easily replace with some that is better and cheaper? 😃

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**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-obama-what-would-you-be-drinking-at-todays-beer-summit/504770/68 "2009-07-30T20:32:54Z")

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> [@Odesio](#):
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> As hard as it might be to believe there are actually millions of people who like Bud Light. Obama might actually be one of those people.

No excuse.

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**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-obama-what-would-you-be-drinking-at-todays-beer-summit/504770/69 "2009-07-30T20:33:11Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> FYI, I was just checking the ownership of Sam Adam Beer, and was suprised to read in Wikipedia that with the Belgian takeover of Anheuser-Busch that the Boston Beer Company (parent of Sam Adams beer) is the largest American-owned brewery.

Pabst Brewing also claims that title, and Yuengling says they might be the biggest by the end of the year.

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**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-obama-what-would-you-be-drinking-at-todays-beer-summit/504770/70 "2009-07-30T20:38:42Z")

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> [@freckafree](#):
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> The place Gates is from (Piedmont, WV) is closer to Cumberland, MD than Pittsburgh, so he might not know about Ahrn City. Are there any Maryland breweries?

[National Bohemian](http://www.nationalbohemian.com/) in Baltimore.

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**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-obama-what-would-you-be-drinking-at-todays-beer-summit/504770/71 "2009-07-30T20:50:56Z")

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> [@garygnu](#):
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> While I like Sam Adams, I’d pick a Western-region microbrewery. I had the most awesomest “Cerveza Chilibeso” at the Great Basin Brewery (better known for their Ichthyosaur IPA) in Sparks, NV recently. It’s made with jalapenos. I could drink that all day. Tasted like liquid nachos.

I really don’t like beer at all, but I’d sure give that beer a shot.

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**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-obama-what-would-you-be-drinking-at-todays-beer-summit/504770/72 "2009-07-30T20:55:58Z")

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> [@Lightnin](#):
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> I really don’t like beer at all, but I’d sure give that beer a shot.

That sounds truly vile.

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**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-obama-what-would-you-be-drinking-at-todays-beer-summit/504770/73 "2009-07-30T21:00:21Z")

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Fat Tire from New Belgium. Powered by the wind.

> **[Human-Powered Brewery | New Belgium Brewing](https://www.newbelgium.com/)**
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> Award winning brewers of craft beer, including Fat Tire Amber Ale and Voodoo Ranger IPA. Explore our variety of beers, learn our history and visit our taprooms.

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**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-obama-what-would-you-be-drinking-at-todays-beer-summit/504770/74 "2009-07-30T21:06:53Z")

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Pabst Blue Ribbon. Going after the mullet vote will frustrate the GOP even more.

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**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-obama-what-would-you-be-drinking-at-todays-beer-summit/504770/75 "2009-07-30T21:09:31Z")

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> [@mswas](#):
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> That sounds truly vile.

Is it like Cave Creek’s chili beer? Had that once, just to say I did. Have lived a full life not regretting passing on a second one. 😃

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**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-obama-what-would-you-be-drinking-at-todays-beer-summit/504770/76 "2009-07-30T21:21:43Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> It’s not entirely rational of me, but Gates lost a LITTLE bit of respect for choosing Red Stripe. I shouldn’t really expect any random person to even KNOW ABOUT the Jamaica boycott, let alone expect them to honor it, but still…

I’ll take his willingness to challenge the tropes of black homophobia, as he does in his essay [reproduced here](http://race.eserver.org/blacklash.txt), over whether he conforms to a boycott that I think few 'mos, including your **Kimmy\_Gibbler** , has ever heard of.

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**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-obama-what-would-you-be-drinking-at-todays-beer-summit/504770/77 "2009-07-30T21:29:55Z")

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> [@Lightnin](#):
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> I really don’t like beer at all, but I’d sure give that beer a shot.

> [@mswas](#):
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> That sounds truly vile.

> [@Casey1505](#):
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> Is it like Cave Creek’s chili beer? Had that once, just to say I did. Have lived a full life not regretting passing on a second one. 😃

It’s really good, I swear. Here’s the description on the [brewery’s website](http://www.greatbasinbrewingco.com/ontap/index.php):

“Cerveza Chilibeso  
Brewed in the pilsner style, light in body, crisp and fresh, with just a kiss (beso) of Jalapeno. Judged as one of the best beers in America; a three time Gold Medal Winner at the Great American Beer Festival. (A.B.V., 5.5%)”

The jalapeno note does not make the beer spicy, unless you’re my mother-in-law, who thinks parsley is spicy. “Crisp” is definitely the right word.

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**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-obama-what-would-you-be-drinking-at-todays-beer-summit/504770/78 "2009-07-30T21:36:39Z")

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> [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](#):
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> I’ll take his willingness to challenge the tropes of black homophobia, as he does in his essay [reproduced here](http://race.eserver.org/blacklash.txt), over whether he conforms to a boycott that I think few 'mos, including your **Kimmy\_Gibbler** , has ever heard of.

That’s a very touching essay.

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**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-obama-what-would-you-be-drinking-at-todays-beer-summit/504770/79 "2009-07-30T21:37:41Z")

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> [@garygnu](#):
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> It’s really good, I swear. Here’s the description on the [brewery’s website](http://www.greatbasinbrewingco.com/ontap/index.php):
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> “Cerveza Chilibeso  
> Brewed in the pilsner style, light in body, crisp and fresh, with just a kiss (beso) of Jalapeno. Judged as one of the best beers in America; a three time Gold Medal Winner at the Great American Beer Festival. (A.B.V., 5.5%)”
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> The jalapeno note does not make the beer spicy, unless you’re my mother-in-law, who thinks parsley is spicy. “Crisp” is definitely the right word.

Well what made it sound disgusting was the reference to ‘liquid nachos’. I don’t think jalapeno in a beer sounds vile by itself, but liquid nachos definitely sounds horrifying.

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**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-were-obama-what-would-you-be-drinking-at-todays-beer-summit/504770/80 "2009-07-30T21:41:02Z")

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Zima bitches!

Of course I’d need to be president to get them to retool the factory and make some more.

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