# If you whine about political correctness, you're a bigot **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 20, 2015, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-whine-about-political-correctness-youre-a-bigot/725671 "2015-07-20T07:12:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2015, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-whine-about-political-correctness-youre-a-bigot/725671/301 "2015-07-27T04:24:00Z")
> [@Shagnasty](#): > > “Take someone back” is just a reference to complete forgiveness for all past history and transgressions as long as both parties are honestly interested in it. It doesn’t work all that often because people tend to be petty creatures but it can be a valuable alternative to chronic conflict as long as all parties have a stake in ending it. I have done it with several people before successfully. It is simply a ‘reset’ button when interpersonal conflicts start to get out of hand unnecessarily. Whatever, I have no desire for a “reset button” from you, so don’t trouble yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2015, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-whine-about-political-correctness-youre-a-bigot/725671/302 "2015-07-27T04:35:31Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Whatever, I have no desire for a “reset button” from you, so don’t trouble yourself. It is no trouble whatsoever **Guin**. I am just letting you know that the option is still open for you or anyone ekse similar to you if you ever happen to mature by some fluke of nature. Take Care, Shagnasty ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_of\_Words](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f6c823/32.png) [@Jack\_of\_Words](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_of_Words)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2015, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-whine-about-political-correctness-youre-a-bigot/725671/303 "2015-07-27T05:06:07Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > For the record, I work a lot with the disability community and generally preferred terms are person-first terms—e.g., person with a disability. (A big exception is the Autistic community where “Autistic person” is sometimes/often/usually preferred to “person with autism.” I think in the Deaf community, similar identity-first terms might be preferable.) Thanks for that - I spend too much of my life saying “I don’t _have_ Aspergers, I _am_ aspergian”. Similarly, I don’t ‘have’ maleness, I don’t ‘have’ homosexuality, I don’t ‘have’ left-handedness and so on (though I do ‘have’ grey hair, I do ‘have’ big feet etc…I’m not sure can I draw a clear line between the cases). > [@MaxTheVool](#): > > Well, frankly, I think the distinction between “disabled person” and “person with disabilities” is a pretty silly one. But I’m willing to recognize that I might just not get it. You just don’t get it. In fact, for a lot of disabilities it’s neither…it’s that society has steps. Actual stairs, rather than ramps, I mean - someone whose illness, injury or condition requires a wheelchair often isn’t disabled until they reach the stairs. > [@MaxTheVool](#): > > And even if I’m 100% right, it’s at worst just that, a pretty silly distinction. It is not some warning sign of the impending though police. It is not proof that liberals are destroying the very substance of our nation. And it certainly pales into insignificance compared with the actual substantial difficulties that people with disabilities continue to face day in and day out. You’re not even right about not being right. Well, no, there’s quite a bit of truth in there, but it’s a tad condescending to tell disabled people what they should be concerned about. Currently, I’m most concerned about people who talk of ‘people with disabilities’ as though we were an homogenous group; those who think that they can best help by perpetuating a victim narrative; and those who dismiss actual concerns about the language used to frame others’ experience as not ‘actual’ difficulties. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2015, 7:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-whine-about-political-correctness-youre-a-bigot/725671/304 "2015-07-27T07:23:38Z")
> [@spinky](#): > > Because _that_ is the most laughable part of it. **BigT** : you’ve said a lot of stupid, _stupid_ shit and gotten called on it. Every goddamn time you attempt to start talking down to people you’re going to get kicked in the nuts, because nobody thinks you’re in a position to condescend. If you hate my condescending tone so much, why do you attack me in the Pit, which is pretty much the only time I pull it out? I know it gets under your skin. That’s the point. It’s also cute that you think you’re kicking me in the nuts. And I guess “coined” is too big a vocabulary word for you. I was there when it was first used, moron. ---
**Author:** ![Rune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e68b1a/32.png) [@Rune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rune)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2015, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-whine-about-political-correctness-youre-a-bigot/725671/305 "2015-07-27T10:58:16Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Whatever, I have no desire for a “reset button” from you, so don’t trouble yourself. shut your twat ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2015, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-whine-about-political-correctness-youre-a-bigot/725671/306 "2015-07-27T11:03:57Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > If you hate my condescending tone so much, why do you attack me in the Pit, which is pretty much the only time I pull it out? Ummmm, phrasing? ---
**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2015, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-whine-about-political-correctness-youre-a-bigot/725671/307 "2015-07-27T12:01:43Z")
> [@Rune](#): > > shut your twat Is it a vocabulary issue for you **Rune** or just reflexive jerkiness? I mean, being aggressively stupid despite what seems to be a functioning intellect is sad enough, but the deliberate offensiveness that strives to condescend yet remains totally devoid of any original thought itself, well… that’s like the cherry-bomb on top of your usual shit-for-brains sundae. ---
**Author:** ![Rune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e68b1a/32.png) [@Rune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rune)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2015, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-whine-about-political-correctness-youre-a-bigot/725671/308 "2015-07-27T12:13:04Z")
> [@xenophon41](#): > > Is it a vocabulary issue for you **Rune** or just reflexive jerkiness? It’s reflexive jerkiness. Now go shut your trap ---
**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2015, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-whine-about-political-correctness-youre-a-bigot/725671/309 "2015-07-27T12:39:16Z")
It was a rhetorical question, but thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2015, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-whine-about-political-correctness-youre-a-bigot/725671/310 "2015-07-27T13:17:49Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Whatever, I have no desire for a “reset button” from you, so don’t trouble yourself. Clearly you didn’t have a Mammy to raise you right. And while the O is purportedly a hot dog shop, that’s really just an obvious facade for their french fry clearinghouse business. ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2015, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-whine-about-political-correctness-youre-a-bigot/725671/311 "2015-07-27T14:22:10Z")
> [@](#): > > Political Correctness makes the fundamental mistake of thinking of this problem as a political rather than an inter-personal problem. no, it doesn’t. reading this thread and seeing who thinks “PC” is some kind of problem just confirms that it is not a problem. so stop whining about it. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2015, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-whine-about-political-correctness-youre-a-bigot/725671/312 "2015-07-27T16:56:43Z")
> [@Shagnasty](#): > > My position is to stop worrying about what your other white friends think and just be nice to almost everyone consistently. I am starting to think that makes me a radical for the first time in my life. Your message of forgiveness would probably go over better if it wasn’t slathered quite so generously with smug. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2015, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-whine-about-political-correctness-youre-a-bigot/725671/313 "2015-07-27T19:05:09Z")
The hypocrisy is only surpassed by the cowardliness of many in this thread and the so-called the pit. Engaging in hostile and nasty communication solely because you feel empowered by anonymity and in the company of like-minded sycophants while critiquing how others communicate is funny. I doubt many in here actually get in someone’s face and communicate in the style they communicate here. Faux outrage from those afraid of the PC-brigade has claimed another victim. RIP Hulk Hogan’s career. Fired for a word your own boss used on national TV. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2015, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-whine-about-political-correctness-youre-a-bigot/725671/314 "2015-07-27T19:07:34Z")
> [@JackieLikesVariety](#): > > no, it doesn’t. > > reading this thread and seeing who thinks “PC” is some kind of problem just confirms that it is not a problem. > > so stop whining about it. Huh? What are you whining about? Are you saying people do not have a problem with PC because you say they can’t? ---
**Author:** ![FuriousGeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecae2f/32.png) [@FuriousGeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FuriousGeorge)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2015, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-whine-about-political-correctness-youre-a-bigot/725671/315 "2015-07-27T19:07:57Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > The hypocrisy is only surpassed by the cowardliness of many in this thread and the so-called the pit. Engaging in hostile and nasty communication solely because you feel empowered by anonymity and in the company of like-minded sycophants while critiquing how others communicate is funny. I doubt many in here actually get in someone’s face and communicate in the style they communicate here. He don’t know me vewwy well, do he? \ ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2015, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-whine-about-political-correctness-youre-a-bigot/725671/316 "2015-07-27T19:14:36Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > The hypocrisy is only surpassed by the cowardliness of many in this thread and the so-called the pit. Engaging in hostile and nasty communication solely because you feel empowered by anonymity and in the company of like-minded sycophants while critiquing how others communicate is funny. I doubt many in here actually get in someone’s face and communicate in the style they communicate here. > > Faux outrage from those afraid of the PC-brigade has claimed another victim. RIP Hulk Hogan’s career. Fired for a word your own boss used on national TV. I’m so glad you showed up. You are precisely the sort the OP is talking about. Basically, your entire participation on this board has been to defend the confederacy and defend other people saying nasty things about black people. You’re a fucking racist douchebag who is too cowardly to admit it. ---
**Author:** ![FuriousGeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecae2f/32.png) [@FuriousGeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FuriousGeorge)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2015, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-whine-about-political-correctness-youre-a-bigot/725671/317 "2015-07-27T19:15:34Z")
… oh and too late to add, but all hot dog restaurants begin and end with [Heid’s of Liverpool](http://heidsofliverpool.com/). ---
**Author:** ![FuriousGeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecae2f/32.png) [@FuriousGeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FuriousGeorge)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2015, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-whine-about-political-correctness-youre-a-bigot/725671/318 "2015-07-27T19:23:15Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > I’m so glad you showed up. You are precisely the sort the OP is talking about. > > Basically, your entire participation on this board has been to defend the confederacy and defend other people saying nasty things about black people. You’re a fucking racist douchebag who is too cowardly to admit it. Well to be fair, does he really have to admit it to be true? Some things are just accepted on their face. I have been called an unfiltered sailor-mouthed asshole for most of my days and have never really had to say the words. It’s kind of understood. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2015, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-whine-about-political-correctness-youre-a-bigot/725671/319 "2015-07-27T19:32:41Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > I’m so glad you showed up. You are precisely the sort the OP is talking about. > > Basically, your entire participation on this board has been to defend the confederacy and defend other people saying nasty things about black people. You’re a fucking racist douchebag who is too cowardly to admit it. The concept of free speech is beyond you and your like minded pack. And what’s the point of defending inoffensive free speech? That’s just pointless. Call the ACLU, some man said “I like pie!” That sort of thing doesn’t require defense. It’s people like you who demonize free speech that leads to situations like this. [http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/21/us/mississippi-to-investigate-death-of-a-black-man-who-raised-confederate-flag.html](http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/21/us/mississippi-to-investigate-death-of-a-black-man-who-raised-confederate-flag.html) Whereas, people like myself, who believe in free speech and civility, even on ‘offensive’ subjects find the death of an innocent tragic. Here is a critique of your orthodoxy. [http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/27/antiracism-our-flawed-new-religion.html](http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/27/antiracism-our-flawed-new-religion.html) If you need it parsed into little words just hollar! ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2015, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-whine-about-political-correctness-youre-a-bigot/725671/320 "2015-07-27T19:36:57Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Whereas, people like myself, who believe in free speech and civility, even on ‘offensive’ subjects find the death of an innocent tragic. You’re genuinely holding yourself up as an example of civility in discourse? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-whine-about-political-correctness-youre-a-bigot/725671.md?page=15) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-whine-about-political-correctness-youre-a-bigot/725671.md?page=17)