# If you whine about political correctness, you're a bigot **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 20, 2015, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-whine-about-political-correctness-youre-a-bigot/725671 "2015-07-20T07:12:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2015, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-whine-about-political-correctness-youre-a-bigot/725671/421 "2015-08-05T00:42:46Z")
> [@Waymore](#): > > You speak of “change” as though it’s not being directed, but it is. > > Can you honestly say that if language were changing in a way you didn’t agree with, that you would exert control to alter its course if you could? It has, and I have. I ask people not to use “that’s gay” as a pejorative around me, f’rinstance. That’s the control I have, and the control I exert. That’s how I influence language, and how I, hopefully, play a role in changing minds. Again, do you somehow think I’m part of the Illuminati, some gnome of Zurich conspiring to force “political correctness” down your threat? Do you really believe there’s some nascent thinkpol out there, ready to force you to not say certain things? There is no secret police in the US, and we are not Oceania. No one is keeping anyone from talking, writing, hell, even _screaming_ about the niggerskikesfaggotsspicsbitchescripsslantscommiesretards. But they’ll be judged for it. I’m fine with that. I’ll judge you for your racist, sexist, or otherwise abusive language. I’ll judge you for saying shitty things, and if those reflect shitty thoughts I’ll judge you for those too. There’s the control I exert. In my business, I do not accept abusive or disrespectful language from my co-workers or employees. I can ask them to stop using that language, and as an employer I can make it clear what is or is not acceptable in the workplace. There’s the control I exert. _That’s not mind control._ That’s not Thought Police. But maybe, when we stop calling people nigger, some of use will stop \*thinking \*of people as niggers, at least a little bit. That’s a benefit weighed against the cost of asking people to stop using offensive language. AFAIC, a clear net gain. Your mileage, of course, may vary. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2015, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-whine-about-political-correctness-youre-a-bigot/725671/422 "2015-08-05T00:50:15Z")
> [@Waymore](#): > > No, obviously not. But just as obviously, you’re dogmatic adherence to PC won’t allow you to look at the matter any other way. Could be that. Could also be that you’re not explaining your position very clearly. What, exactly, did I get wrong in my examples? Scenario 2 is basically what **andros** has been describing, and you’ve singled him out in particular as practicing mind control, so I’m not seeing why its “obvious” that isn’t what you mean. It seems to be exactly the situation you’re talking about. Also, take a minute to look up the definition of “autonym.” It doesn’t mean what you appear to think it means. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2015, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-whine-about-political-correctness-youre-a-bigot/725671/423 "2015-08-05T01:12:14Z")
> [@andros](#): > > In my business, I do not accept abusive or disrespectful language from my co-workers or employees. I can ask them to stop using that language, and as an employer I can make it clear what is or is not acceptable in the workplace. There’s the control I exert. That’s in your business, and your own personal interactions. Do you support “community commissions” that attempt, even though they failed, to dictate “acceptable” speech to the population at large? ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_of\_Words](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f6c823/32.png) [@Jack\_of\_Words](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_of_Words)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2015, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-whine-about-political-correctness-youre-a-bigot/725671/424 "2015-08-05T01:23:36Z")
> [@andros](#): > > No one is keeping anyone from talking, writing, hell, even _screaming_ about the niggerskikesfaggotsspicsbitchescripsslantscommiesretards. I thought you were, with the control you exert? > [@andros](#): > > But maybe, when we stop calling people nigger, some of use will stop \*thinking \*of people as niggers, at least a little bit. Ah, _maybe_. So, maybe not? Like blowing on dice? _Maybe_ it helps. What’s the possible mechanism you think _might_ be operating to change people’s values and prejudices when you exert your control over which words you consider acceptable? > [@andros](#): > > That’s a benefit weighed against the cost of asking people to stop using offensive language. AFAIC, a clear net gain. A possible benefit through an unexplained mechanism that _might_ work. Whether there’s any gain from the process is far from clear, but do please lay out the weightings you plucked from thin air before ‘calculating’ the ‘net’ gain. ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2015, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-whine-about-political-correctness-youre-a-bigot/725671/425 "2015-08-05T01:24:23Z")
> [@Jack\_of\_Words](#): > > Show me, for example, one person who is provably no longer a racist simply because so many people say ‘the N-word’ or ‘african-american’ now. I get that many of the people who pointedly don’t say ‘nigger’ are quite keen not to be seen as racist - but they probably weren’t anyway…and we can thank MLK and Rock Against Racism and countless other social leaders etc for that. But stopping people _saying_ ‘nigger’ hasn’t stopped anyone _thinking_ ‘nigger’ or acting out their racial prejudices. I think this is the key question, so I’ll answer it alone. If you’d like responses to other parts of what you said, let me know (but I think a lot of it was basically just uninteresting-internet-miscommunication). So, does convincing people to stop saying “nigger” actually do anything? Does it actually change people’s minds? Does it actually make a difference? I can think of at least three ways I think it’s likely to have an impact: (1) people who are actually racist, but are just racist because they grew up being racist without ever really thinking about it. Forcing them to take a moment and stop and think every time they say “black” instead of “nigger” might make them actually also stop and think about who it is they’re talking about, make that person a little more “a person” rather than “the other”. This is the most tenuous, and I’m sure there are people for whom it won’t have that effect (2) what children hear and learn growing up. Sure a REALLY racist person might raise children in a household in which they constantly here “those black people are lazy and stupid” rather than “those niggers are lazy and stupid”, and it won’t make much of a difference. But there will be plenty of children who are, say, the friends of those children, who are growing up with part of what they learn coming from mass media and pop culture, and part being modeled on the behavior of the teachers and parents and other adults in their lives. There’s a bit of a chicken-egg issue here, but at some point they’ll certainly learn that “nigger” is a vicious slur. At that point, what do they internalize if that’s a term that they’ve heard constantly from many adults they respect, vs. that being a term they’ve heard only very rarely? (3) how black people themselves (particularly childreh) will feel and learn living in and growing up in this society. How likely is a black person to want to engage in social and societal institutions in a town in which the adults constantly say “nigger” vs “black” or “african american”? ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2015, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-whine-about-political-correctness-youre-a-bigot/725671/426 "2015-08-05T01:27:23Z")
> [@Waymore](#): > > Raising children and limiting the range of acceptable thought are not analogous. But I like how you wrap your blatantly despotic politics in an appeal to the welfare of children. > > Don’t wear yourself out grasping for straws big guy. So, I don’t like people calling each other rude names, and that’s despotic? You need to study a dictionary some day. ETA: “big guy?” You obviously do not know me! ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2015, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-whine-about-political-correctness-youre-a-bigot/725671/427 "2015-08-05T01:29:20Z")
> [@Waymore](#): > > A good person doesn’t want to control other people’s minds. You’re missing two vital ingredients. ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2015, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-whine-about-political-correctness-youre-a-bigot/725671/428 "2015-08-05T01:31:00Z")
> [@Jack\_of\_Words](#): > > A possible benefit through an unexplained mechanism that _might_ work. Whether there’s any gain from the process is far from clear, but do please lay out the weightings you plucked from thin air before ‘calculating’ the ‘net’ gain. What puzzles me about your position is that you seem to be taking this “you absolutely positively must prove your position” attitude, as if this were a criminal case. Look, I _think_ that we’ll be better off if video-game-playing-young-men stop using “gay” and “fag” as insults. So I sometimes make posts to that effect, and try to convince them to do so. Can I **prove** that I am right, and that we would in fact be better off? No. It might have no effect. Or it might have a positive effect as expected but also negative side effects that would outweigh the positive effects. But, so what? I have good arguments as to why I _expect_ it to have a positive effect, and it’s just trying to convince people to use different words. It’s not a big deal! It’s something that thousands of different groups of people have been doing for centuries. Some have succeeded. Some got laughed out of court. Some succeeded for a while and then we went back. And some are still up in the air (might we end up using “actor” for both men and women in 20 years? maybe). What’s so sinister and horrifying? Why is trying-to-get-people-to-use-different-words so shockingly dangerous that it demands an incredible burden of certainty before it’s reasonable to even begin? ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2015, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-whine-about-political-correctness-youre-a-bigot/725671/429 "2015-08-05T01:39:37Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > That’s in your business, and your own personal interactions. > > Do you support “community commissions” that attempt, even though they failed, to dictate “acceptable” speech to the population at large? What on earth are you talking about? ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2015, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-whine-about-political-correctness-youre-a-bigot/725671/430 "2015-08-05T01:40:38Z")
> [@Jack\_of\_Words](#): > > I thought you were, with the control you exert… Feel free to troll someone else. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_of\_Words](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f6c823/32.png) [@Jack\_of\_Words](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_of_Words)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2015, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-whine-about-political-correctness-youre-a-bigot/725671/431 "2015-08-05T01:50:21Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > I think this is the key question, so I’ll answer it alone. If you’d like responses to other parts of what you said, let me know (but I think a lot of it was basically just uninteresting-internet-miscommunication). There was no question (not even a rhetorical question). There was a call for evidence. > [@MaxTheVool](#): > > So, does convincing people to stop saying “nigger” actually do anything? Does it actually change people’s minds? Does it actually make a difference? 1. Yes, but not the thing it aims to do. Mostly it creates resentment, eg, towards ‘those uppity niggers making demands about what you _call_ them now’. 2. No, it changes their words, in your company. They revert to ‘nigger’ at home. 3. A difference to what? I suppose it might make some racists more creative in the way they express themselves. > [@MaxTheVool](#): > > I can think of at least three ways I think it’s likely to have an impact: Likely? Hmm. > [@MaxTheVool](#): > > (1) people who are actually racist, but are just racist because they grew up being racist without ever really thinking about it. Forcing them to take a moment and stop and think every time they say “black” instead of “nigger” might make them actually also stop and think about who it is they’re talking about, make that person a little more “a person” rather than “the other”. This is the most tenuous, and I’m sure there are people for whom it won’t have that effect If they didn’t get any of that from the civil rights movement etc, then the dice-blowing of changing the words won’t have any more effect than it does when you play craps. > [@MaxTheVool](#): > > (2) what children hear and learn growing up. Sure a REALLY racist person might raise children in a household in which they constantly here “those black people are lazy and stupid” rather than “those niggers are lazy and stupid”, and it won’t make much of a difference. But there will be plenty of children who are, say, the friends of those children, who are growing up with part of what they learn coming from mass media and pop culture, and part being modeled on the behavior of the teachers and parents and other adults in their lives. There’s a bit of a chicken-egg issue here, but at some point they’ll certainly learn that “nigger” is a vicious slur. At that point, what do they internalize if that’s a term that they’ve heard constantly from many adults they respect, vs. that being a term they’ve heard only very rarely? But ‘nigger’ _isn’t_ a vicious slur - the slur is not in any particular arrangement of letters, it’s in the attitude with which it’s used. It’s superstition to suppose otherwise. > [@MaxTheVool](#): > > (3) how black people themselves (particularly childreh) will feel and learn living in and growing up in this society. How likely is a black person to want to engage in social and societal institutions in a town in which the adults constantly say “nigger” vs “black” or “african american”? Ah, will nobody think of the children! Again, it depends how it’s said - and whether they’ve been indoctrinated with your superstition. If all the adults say ‘black’, but never invite the niggers to dinner and warn their own kids from playing with the ‘blacks’, what’s been achieved? Your dice-gods have been appeased, is all. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2015, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-whine-about-political-correctness-youre-a-bigot/725671/432 "2015-08-05T01:55:30Z")
> [@Jack\_of\_Words](#): > > But ‘nigger’ _isn’t_ a vicious slur - the slur is not in any particular arrangement of letters, it’s in the attitude with which it’s used. It’s superstition to suppose otherwise. Or, you know, accuracy. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_of\_Words](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f6c823/32.png) [@Jack\_of\_Words](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_of_Words)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2015, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-whine-about-political-correctness-youre-a-bigot/725671/433 "2015-08-05T01:58:25Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > What puzzles me about your position is that you seem to be taking this “you absolutely positively must prove your position” attitude, as if this were a criminal case. > > Look, I _think_ that we’ll be better off if video-game-playing-young-men stop using “gay” and “fag” as insults. So I sometimes make posts to that effect, and try to convince them to do so. > > Can I **prove** that I am right, and that we would in fact be better off? No. It might have no effect. Or it might have a positive effect as expected but also negative side effects that would outweigh the positive effects. But, so what? I have good arguments as to why I _expect_ it to have a positive effect, and it’s just trying to convince people to use different words. It’s not a big deal! It’s something that thousands of different groups of people have been doing for centuries. Some have succeeded. Some got laughed out of court. Some succeeded for a while and then we went back. And some are still up in the air (might we end up using “actor” for both men and women in 20 years? maybe). > > What’s so sinister and horrifying? Why is trying-to-get-people-to-use-different-words so shockingly dangerous that it demands an incredible burden of certainty before it’s reasonable to even begin? I do use ‘actor’ regardless of gender, though I occasionally meet actresses who insist on that label. Part of the ‘big deal’ stems not from your own position, but from those adamant that language must be controlled in order to control minds (and who, failing to support their own ideas, resort to ‘vicious slurs’ of their own). It’s not that I think of it as dangerous, so much as unnecessary, misguided and superstitious. I also find it tiresome having to keep up with whatever this season’s terms are. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2015, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-whine-about-political-correctness-youre-a-bigot/725671/434 "2015-08-05T04:00:51Z")
> [@andros](#): > > What on earth are you talking about? The real life trolls at UNH who tried (and failed) to dictate speech to the university population at large. It was amply cited in this thread. Do you support such nonsense? After all, they were just trying to make sure nobody’s feelings were hurt. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2015, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-whine-about-political-correctness-youre-a-bigot/725671/435 "2015-08-05T04:13:26Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > The real life trolls at UNH who tried (and failed) to dictate speech to the university population at large. It was amply cited in this thread. Ah, so not “the population at large,” but a _specific_ population. They wore no jackboots, they did not try to enforce anything with force. They did not succeed. Had the school adopted their ideas, we could have a different discussion. > [@](#): > > After all, they were just trying to make sure nobody’s feelings were hurt. Is that really what you think I’ve been saying? ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2015, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-whine-about-political-correctness-youre-a-bigot/725671/436 "2015-08-05T04:21:31Z")
> [@andros](#): > > Is that really what you think I’ve been saying? Yes, I do. You complained about the use of “that’s gay” as a pejorative. If you’re not worried about hurt feelings, what is your point, then? ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2015, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-whine-about-political-correctness-youre-a-bigot/725671/437 "2015-08-05T10:56:03Z")
> [@Jack\_of\_Words](#): > > But ‘nigger’ _isn’t_ a vicious slur Aah, **Jack** , I see you’ve already met **[Steophan](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=752213)**… ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_of\_Words](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f6c823/32.png) [@Jack\_of\_Words](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_of_Words)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2015, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-whine-about-political-correctness-youre-a-bigot/725671/438 "2015-08-05T13:40:24Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Aah, **Jack** , I see you’ve already met **[Steophan](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=752213)**… Nope, nor do I believe that anyone is ‘sub-human’. I just think that the viciousness and the slur are separate from any given arrangement of letters. In South Africa, for example, ‘black’ can be just as vicious a slur, and yet several decent, honourable posters recommend it. By the way, isn’t following someone from one thread to another to have a go at them strictly against the rules? It’s the Pit, so you can claim I’m racist and I can say you’re a kiddy fiddler, but that you’re doing it because we disagree elsewhere is against the rules for perfectly good reasons. Back in your box, eh. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2015, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-whine-about-political-correctness-youre-a-bigot/725671/439 "2015-08-05T14:11:34Z")
> [@Jack\_of\_Words](#): > > Nope, nor do I believe that anyone is ‘sub-human’. I just think that the viciousness and the slur are separate from any given arrangement of letters. “What is this lan-gwich you hyoo-mons use” is an imbecilic tack to take in any discussion. > [@](#): > > In South Africa, for example, ‘black’ can be just as vicious a slur, That’s news to me. It’d be news to the Blacks, too. > [@](#): > > By the way, isn’t following someone from one thread to another to have a go at them strictly against the rules? Gosh, which poster have I seen accuse me of stalking before… > [@](#): > > It’s the Pit, so you can claim I’m racist and I can say you’re a kiddy fiddler, but that you’re doing it because we disagree elsewhere is against the rules for perfectly good reasons. Erm, no, I \*responded \*to your idiotic statement _here_, by pointing out it’s similar to an idiotic statement made elsewhere recently. That’s not calling you racist (and if you followed the link, you’ll see i wasn’t calling **Steophan** a racist either), that’s pointing out you’re an idiot. > [@](#): > > Back in your box, eh. You get back under your bridge, first. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_of\_Words](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f6c823/32.png) [@Jack\_of\_Words](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_of_Words)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2015, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-whine-about-political-correctness-youre-a-bigot/725671/440 "2015-08-05T14:38:01Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > “What is this lan-gwich you hyoo-mons use” is an imbecilic tack to take in any discussion.That’s news to me. It’d be news to the Blacks, too.Gosh, which poster have I seen accuse me of stalking before… > Erm, no, I \*responded \*to your idiotic statement _here_, by pointing out it’s similar to an idiotic statement made elsewhere recently. That’s not calling you racist (and if you followed the link, you’ll see i wasn’t calling **Steophan** a racist either), that’s pointing out you’re an idiot.You get back under your bridge, first. It seems to me an imbecilic tack would be the best way to deal with an imbecile…but I don’t recognise (or, frankly, understand) the ‘tack’ you imply I’m taking. Try to exert whatever intelligence you generally leave languishing and see if you can’t follow the reasoning. Suppose, for example, a black rapper calls another ‘nigga’ - is it a slur? Apparently not, proving that the slur is \*not/i] in the arrangement of letters. As for South Africa, when apartheid racists referred to ‘lazy blacks’ for example, the word ‘blacks’ _was_ a slur (and no doubt still is for racists there). Or are you suggesting it was a compliment? I have no idea who’s accused you of stalking before - do you do it a lot? I do recall suggesting once before that someone had followed me from one thread (the same thread I assume motivated your comments here) to another. Was that also you? You do do this a lot, eh 😉 Again, try to understand why it’s considered very poor form, there’s a good chap. If you weren’t calling me a racist, by your selective quote and implication of acquaintance with someone who, according to your link to a thread about ‘sub-human blacks’, thinks that blacks are sub-human, then you might be better served by communicating more clearly. I didn’t really read through your link (again, if you were trying to communicate, that’s not a particularly good method - why should I care about this stranger you want to link me with (or you for that matter) enough to read a whole other thread?) Do try to think these things through, eh? Isn’t the Pit fun? The one place you can call someone a troll. The word seems to have lost any real meaning now though, of course, as it just gets used to mean “I don’t like you, and I’m pretty thick so I can’t really argue or discuss or debate so’s you’d notice, so I’m going to call you names instead.” For the record (and though a certain rule may be applicable here), I’m putting you back in your box. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-whine-about-political-correctness-youre-a-bigot/725671.md?page=21) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-whine-about-political-correctness-youre-a-bigot/725671.md?page=23)