# If your Democrat of choice loses the nominee; will you vote for the other?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-your-democrat-of-choice-loses-the-nominee-will-you-vote-for-the-other/440253>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [March 5, 2008, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-your-democrat-of-choice-loses-the-nominee-will-you-vote-for-the-other/440253 "2008-03-05T23:18:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![Eureka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/74df32/32.png) [@Eureka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eureka)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-your-democrat-of-choice-loses-the-nominee-will-you-vote-for-the-other/440253/41 "2008-03-06T15:21:01Z")

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I don’t have a Democrat of choice. (I keep changing my mind–not least because my Democrat of choice really is whomever is most likely to beat McCain, and I can’t tell who fits that bill.) I will vote for whichever Democrat is on the ticket, but I’m not convinced that sharing the ticket is a good move–especially if Obama is the Presidential candidate.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-your-democrat-of-choice-loses-the-nominee-will-you-vote-for-the-other/440253/42 "2008-03-06T15:32:35Z")

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Nope. If Obama isn’t the Democratic nominee, I’m voting Communist. There is no combination of factors that would ever compel me to vote for Hillary under any circumstances.

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**Author:** ![Phlosphr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Phlosphr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlosphr)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-your-democrat-of-choice-loses-the-nominee-will-you-vote-for-the-other/440253/43 "2008-03-06T15:35:28Z")

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I cannot under any circumstances see Obama sharing the ticket with Clinton.

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**Author:** ![Rocketeer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocketeer/32/4437_2.png) [@Rocketeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rocketeer)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-your-democrat-of-choice-loses-the-nominee-will-you-vote-for-the-other/440253/44 "2008-03-06T15:36:11Z")

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The Dems could nominate Satan himself and I’d vote Democratic.

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**Author:** ![Bobotheoptimist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/919ad9/32.png) [@Bobotheoptimist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bobotheoptimist)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-your-democrat-of-choice-loses-the-nominee-will-you-vote-for-the-other/440253/45 "2008-03-06T15:37:06Z")

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[QUOTE=guizot]  
Do you really think that’s possible? If the president wants, he or she can make the vice president virtually irrelevant. Cheney does what he does with Bush’s blessings.  
[/QUOTE]  
Yes, I really do. I don’t think there’s much she wouldn’t do for power and I wouldn’t give a plugged nickel for the career of anyone who tries to thwart her.

I’d vote for Cheney before Clinton.

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**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-your-democrat-of-choice-loses-the-nominee-will-you-vote-for-the-other/440253/46 "2008-03-06T15:53:08Z")

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Clinton is my first choice, but I would vote for Mr. Obama if he secures the nomination. If the two of them run on the same ticket, I will be surprised, but happy to see them both in the White House, and I would hope whichever one does the Veep stint goes on to take over 8 years later.

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**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-your-democrat-of-choice-loses-the-nominee-will-you-vote-for-the-other/440253/47 "2008-03-06T16:06:26Z")

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I will vote for whoever has the D after their name on the ballot. I would strongly prefer that D to have the word Clinton before it, but if it says Obama I could live with that.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-your-democrat-of-choice-loses-the-nominee-will-you-vote-for-the-other/440253/48 "2008-03-06T16:08:19Z")

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Absolutely. The only other choice is a McPresident.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-your-democrat-of-choice-loses-the-nominee-will-you-vote-for-the-other/440253/49 "2008-03-06T16:12:06Z")

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I am now an Independant, I just left the Republican party on Feb 6th. I want a Democrat in now, and I can stomach Clinton, so if she slimes her way to victory, I will vote for her over McCain who I like better.

I would feel better about it if Obama is at least the VP.

I would of course feel best, getting a chance to vote for Obama.

[QUOTE=Rocketeer]  
The Dems could nominate Satan himself and I’d vote Democratic.  
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But he is currently VP, isn’t he?

Jim

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**Author:** ![Omega\_Glory](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7c8e57/32.png) [@Omega\_Glory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omega_Glory)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-your-democrat-of-choice-loses-the-nominee-will-you-vote-for-the-other/440253/50 "2008-03-06T16:40:24Z")

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No. I’m not a registered Dem, but I’d vote Green first. Of course, NY has been blue on the national level forever, and that’s probably not going to change anytime soon.

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**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-your-democrat-of-choice-loses-the-nominee-will-you-vote-for-the-other/440253/51 "2008-03-06T16:45:14Z")

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I couldn’t stand the thought of four more years of McSame. I’d vote (D).

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**Author:** ![SaharaTea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@SaharaTea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaharaTea)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-your-democrat-of-choice-loses-the-nominee-will-you-vote-for-the-other/440253/52 "2008-03-06T16:48:14Z")

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Absolutely. I prefer Obama but will gladly vote for Clinton. The issues are more important to me than the personality.

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**Author:** ![Ceejaytee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ceejaytee/32/2956_2.png) [@Ceejaytee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ceejaytee)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-your-democrat-of-choice-loses-the-nominee-will-you-vote-for-the-other/440253/53 "2008-03-06T16:49:17Z")

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I can’t vote for Hillary–her tactics in this campaign are making my skin crawl (note: I voted for her for Senate when I lived in NY and was perfectly happy with my choice). If NJ will be clearly going Democratic, as usual, I will vote for someone else–Independent, Green, something nice and Left–as my protest. If there’s a chance the Republicans could take the state, I’ll close my eyes and think of England. Or something.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-your-democrat-of-choice-loses-the-nominee-will-you-vote-for-the-other/440253/54 "2008-03-06T16:50:05Z")

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I won’t vote for Hillary under any circumstances. If she is the nominee, I will not vote.

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-your-democrat-of-choice-loses-the-nominee-will-you-vote-for-the-other/440253/55 "2008-03-06T17:09:29Z")

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I won’t vote for Clinton because I don’t want to give my approval to her campaign tactics. I admit that I can “afford” to think like this because Illinois will almost certainly vote blue anyway. But I won’t validate the way she’s acted this campaign cycle.

I won’t vote for McCain but rather skip that part of the ballot and hit the Senate/House Rep/state & local office votes.

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-your-democrat-of-choice-loses-the-nominee-will-you-vote-for-the-other/440253/56 "2008-03-06T17:54:41Z")

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If in my mind Hillary gets the nom fairly (and “fair” would be my own personal definition) then I probably could vote for her. But as it stands now, I don’t see how that could happen and probably will not vote for her.

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**Author:** ![Acid\_Lamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Acid\_Lamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acid_Lamp)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-your-democrat-of-choice-loses-the-nominee-will-you-vote-for-the-other/440253/57 "2008-03-06T18:30:49Z")

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Honestly, I’m not certain. I will probably vote for Hillary if Obama doesn’t get the ticket, because I can’t deal with any more of the same. However, if Hillary gets the nomination in opposition to the popular vote, I might vote third party, or even leave the country altogether. I’m very very, tired of the political climate here.

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-your-democrat-of-choice-loses-the-nominee-will-you-vote-for-the-other/440253/58 "2008-03-06T18:45:49Z")

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[QUOTE=zuma]  
I’ll vote for any democrat. The only issue this election, bar none, is the supreme court. Every other thing pales in comparison. This election will have a profound and lasting impact for generations.  
[/QUOTE]  
This is the only reason I would vote for Hillary, who I’m confident would oversee an administration that (while perhaps well-intentioned) would be disastrous, counterproductive, and set the Democratic party back a decade. I don’t really believe she even has a shot at beating McCain, but I would vote for her solely because of SCOTUS.

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**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-your-democrat-of-choice-loses-the-nominee-will-you-vote-for-the-other/440253/59 "2008-03-06T18:58:43Z")

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I have said repeatedly that the only thing the Dems could do to lose my vote is to float Hillary as their candidate. This holds regardless of where she is on the ticket.

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**Author:** ![Trunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/87869e/32.png) [@Trunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trunk)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-your-democrat-of-choice-loses-the-nominee-will-you-vote-for-the-other/440253/60 "2008-03-06T19:28:27Z")

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I’d vote for Obama.

If Obama wins the popular vote, and the Friends of Clintons sway enough Super-D’s to get her in, there’s no way I’d vote for her. It would just disgust me to no end to have these people just explicitly state, “you jerk my dick; I’ll jerk yours. And you democratic voters don’t even get the pleasure of watching.”

(well, that’s assuming I’d actually go vote, which I don’t)

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