# If you're 100 and fucking 9 years old, you can vote for whoever you want...

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 31, 2008, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-100-and-fucking-9-years-old-you-can-vote-for-whoever-you-want/470402 "2008-10-31T10:40:36Z")\
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**Author:** ![Billdo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/billdo/32/315_2.png) [@Billdo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Billdo)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-100-and-fucking-9-years-old-you-can-vote-for-whoever-you-want/470402/21 "2008-10-31T15:24:23Z")

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> [@Ethilrist](#):
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> I’m voting for Obama because he’s the Democrat.  
> I’m voting for Obama because he’s black.  
> I’m voting for Obama because he wasn’t enough of an idiot to choose a dingbat as his running mate.  
> I’m voting for Obama because he seems like a nicer guy than McCain.  
> I’m voting for Obama because McCain creeps me the fuck out.
> 
> Anybody want to pick one out of the pile and brand me as a racist? I’m okay with that.

It’s the last one. You’re prejudiced against creepy, old, white guys.

What do I win?

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**Author:** ![Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brown_eyed_girl/32/3574_2.png) [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brown_Eyed_Girl)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-100-and-fucking-9-years-old-you-can-vote-for-whoever-you-want/470402/22 "2008-10-31T15:26:08Z")

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> [@DianaG](#):
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> I’m voting for Obama because he is the man with whom I most agree on policy issues. I’ve voted for a shitload of white men for the exact same reason. I’d sure as hell vote for Obama if he were white. But the fact that he’s black is some tasty, tasty icing, and I refuse to apologize for that feeling.

And I don’t see any reason why you should. We should all be proud to live in a time that enough Americans can and will vote for a black man despite, and with no consideration of, his race that he can be POTUS. That’s called social progress.

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-100-and-fucking-9-years-old-you-can-vote-for-whoever-you-want/470402/23 "2008-10-31T15:27:47Z")

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Most eye-catching thread title ever. But not in a good way.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-100-and-fucking-9-years-old-you-can-vote-for-whoever-you-want/470402/24 "2008-10-31T15:29:55Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> Yeah, I’m not seeing how the racism charge is valid here, either.

**Guin** didn’t say that the article made any accusations of racism. It’s the reader comments below that make those charges.

What should be obvious to anyone whose been on the internet for more than a week or two is that those comments are trolls.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-100-and-fucking-9-years-old-you-can-vote-for-whoever-you-want/470402/25 "2008-10-31T15:56:15Z")

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If a 100-year-old fucking a 9-year-old is wrong, I don’t want to be white.

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-100-and-fucking-9-years-old-you-can-vote-for-whoever-you-want/470402/26 "2008-10-31T15:56:21Z")

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I would argue with the OP on this, ANYBODY can vote for whatever reason they damn well please.

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-100-and-fucking-9-years-old-you-can-vote-for-whoever-you-want/470402/27 "2008-10-31T15:59:16Z")

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> [@Billdo](#):
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> It’s the last one. You’re prejudiced against creepy, old, white guys.
> 
> What do I win?

I blame my Hannah-Barbera upbringing. “And I would have won the election, too, if it hadn’t been for those kids and their blasted dog!”

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**Author:** ![thematulaaklives](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e68b1a/32.png) [@thematulaaklives](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thematulaaklives)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-100-and-fucking-9-years-old-you-can-vote-for-whoever-you-want/470402/28 "2008-10-31T16:20:24Z")

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> [@equipoise](#):
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> yeah, i thought this was going to be about child sex and voter fraud. Very very confusing.
> 
> A wonderful article though!

i hate tacos

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**Author:** ![Santo\_Rugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-100-and-fucking-9-years-old-you-can-vote-for-whoever-you-want/470402/29 "2008-10-31T16:25:26Z")

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Can 100 year olds even get it up? With a 9 year old, at that?

Methinks no.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-100-and-fucking-9-years-old-you-can-vote-for-whoever-you-want/470402/30 "2008-10-31T16:31:17Z")

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> [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](#):
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> 😕  
> The article mentioned she’s voted Democrat for 70 years, so now her Democratic vote is one of pure racism? I don’t get it.

If you’re talking to me, I KNOW that. BUT, what I’m saying is, if that WASN’T the reason, if she WAS voting for him simply because he’s black, she DOES have that right. I know she’s voting for him simply because she always votes Dem. YOU know she always votes Dem. BUT, these yahoos seem not to realize that.

However, I can also understand why it’s exciting to her to see history in the making.

(BTW, one of my teachers in high school told us that his mother voted for JFK because “He seemed like such a nice young man, always so well-dressed and so polite.”)  
**Kimstu** , the racism charges are in the comments below the article.

**Gangster Octopus** , I totally agree, I’m just tired of hearing the accusations of racism-and to do so against a 100+ woman, the daughter of fucking slaves, is really nasty.

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**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-100-and-fucking-9-years-old-you-can-vote-for-whoever-you-want/470402/31 "2008-10-31T16:31:43Z")

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Couldn’t this all have been avoided with a simple “When you’re 109 fucking years old…” I mean, if we \*must \*have the fucking.

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-100-and-fucking-9-years-old-you-can-vote-for-whoever-you-want/470402/32 "2008-10-31T16:38:42Z")

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OK, look, you guys may think it’s gross if a 100 year old fucks a 9 year old and I guess that’s ok. But in 21 years she’ll be 30 and he’ll be 121.  
It won’t be so weird then, will it? Yeah, that’s what I thought.

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**Author:** ![Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brown_eyed_girl/32/3574_2.png) [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brown_Eyed_Girl)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-100-and-fucking-9-years-old-you-can-vote-for-whoever-you-want/470402/33 "2008-10-31T16:43:43Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> If you’re talking to me, I KNOW that. BUT, what I’m saying is, if that WASN’T the reason, if she WAS voting for him simply because he’s black, she DOES have that right. I know she’s voting for him simply because she always votes Dem. YOU know she always votes Dem. BUT, these yahoos seem not to realize that.
> 
> However, I can also understand why it’s exciting to her to see history in the making.
> 
> (BTW, one of my teachers in high school told us that his mother voted for JFK because “He seemed like such a nice young man, always so well-dressed and so polite.”)  
> **Kimstu** , the racism charges are in the comments below the article.
> 
> **Gangster Octopus** , I totally agree, I’m just tired of hearing the accusations of racism-and to do so against a 100+ woman, the daughter of fucking slaves, is really nasty.

I knew you knew that. I was just expanding upon your initial complaint that from her voting history noted in the article, it’s pretty obvious there are \*other \*reasons she’s voting for Obama. But, yeah, I’m not even black and _I’m_ starting to feel giddy. Omigosh! Is that what hope feels like? It’s been so long!

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**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-100-and-fucking-9-years-old-you-can-vote-for-whoever-you-want/470402/34 "2008-10-31T17:08:04Z")

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> [@Enderw24](#):
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> OK, look, you guys may think it’s gross if a 100 year old fucks a 9 year old and I guess that’s ok. But in 21 years she’ll be 30 and he’ll be 121.

Well, okay, but technically she’s gone from a “sugar mama” to a “sugar great-great-grandmama.”

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-100-and-fucking-9-years-old-you-can-vote-for-whoever-you-want/470402/35 "2008-10-31T17:13:38Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> Guin didn’t say that the article made any accusations of racism. It’s the reader comments below that make those charges.

I know the article doesn’t make any accusations of racism, and I didn’t say that **Guin** was saying so. I was just pointing out that the “racist” accusation, from whatever source, is not supported by the actual content of the article.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-100-and-fucking-9-years-old-you-can-vote-for-whoever-you-want/470402/36 "2008-10-31T17:32:42Z")

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> [@Ethilrist](#):
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> I’m voting for Obama because he wasn’t enough of an idiot to choose a dingbat as his running mate.

Really? Check threads about Biden before he was chosen to run alongside Obama - the consensus on even this very liberal board was that he was a man with somewhat limited gifts.

The tendency to play up Biden as a great politician has been merely partisan ticket-boosting - and you’re engaging in the same right here.

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**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-100-and-fucking-9-years-old-you-can-vote-for-whoever-you-want/470402/37 "2008-10-31T18:09:51Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> …for what ever reason you fucking want to!
> 
> [Daughter of Slave Votes for Obama](http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/10/27/1027jones.html). She’s _109_, and she’s absolutely thrilled to be voting for the first ever big party nominated black candidate for president.
> 
> And yet, most of the comments below are accusing her of racism. Fuck it. At this point, if she wants to vote for the guy because she likes his _ties_, I think she has the right.\*
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> \*And I’VE decided, even though I’m white as snow, if someone asks me if I’m voting for Obama because he’s black, I’m going to say, “Hell YEAH!” Just for shits and giggles. Because it’s not worth arguing. And I suggest everyone else do so as well.

I’ve noticed that your frequency of initiating pit threads has dropped off dramatically in the past several years. I consider that a sign of maturation.

And I appreciate you bringing that wonderful article to my attention.

But did you have to bring up the troll comments ? Who the fuck takes them seriously. I’ll bet a lot of people don’t bother reading blog comments. They are just a waste of time.

Its a wonderful link and it makes me rejoice. I just can’t generate one ounce of steam over comments questioning the old lady’s motivation.

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-100-and-fucking-9-years-old-you-can-vote-for-whoever-you-want/470402/38 "2008-10-31T18:16:38Z")

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> [@Mr.Moto](#):
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> Really? Check threads about Biden before he was chosen to run alongside Obama - the consensus on even this very liberal board was that he was a man with somewhat limited gifts.
> 
> The tendency to play up Biden as a great politician has been merely partisan ticket-boosting - and you’re engaging in the same right here.

That’s kind of my point–if you make a decision based on differences you perceive, and the differences are in race, then you’re a racist. If they’re based on years of experiences, you’re ageist. If it’s gender, you’re sexist. I’m okay with being racist, ageist, sexist, or experienceist.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-100-and-fucking-9-years-old-you-can-vote-for-whoever-you-want/470402/39 "2008-10-31T18:24:09Z")

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> [@Mr. Moto](#):
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> Check threads about Biden before he was chosen to run alongside Obama - the consensus on even this very liberal board was that he was a man with somewhat limited gifts.

😕 How you figure? I just did a search on SDMB pre-2008 posts about Biden, and the liberal posters in general seemed to feel that while he’d never set the Potomac on fire (especially when it came to his speaking style), he was an okay politician and a plausible, if not particularly desirable, Presidential candidate. Certainly nowhere even close to Palinesque levels of dingbattery or unsuitability for high office.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-100-and-fucking-9-years-old-you-can-vote-for-whoever-you-want/470402/40 "2008-10-31T18:32:43Z")

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> [@Mr.Moto](#):
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> Really? Check threads about Biden before he was chosen to run alongside Obama - the consensus on even this very liberal board was that he was a man with somewhat limited gifts.
> 
> The tendency to play up Biden as a great politician has been merely partisan ticket-boosting - and you’re engaging in the same right here.

Well, i know you’ll probably simply accuse me of partisan ticket-boosting, but i actually think that Biden has exceeded expectations as the VP candidate. I’ve always thought he was a good politician, but some of his attributes were perhaps not as well-suited to a place on the presidential ticket.

Everyone knew he was smart, but people were worried about his tendency to put his foot in his mouth, and about the fact that he sometimes gets too aggressive and confrontational. I think he’s managed to tone down his approach, while still coming across as intelligent and, when necessary, forceful.

His VP debate appearance was notably free of excessive verbosity (the format helped him there), and he came across as a fairly calm, kind, and humble guy, in my opinion. Even when shooting down his critics, as he did with that awful interviewer who asked him about Marxism last week, he has generally maintained a calm demeanor and pleasant manner.

As far as i can tell, most of the concerns expressed about the choice of Biden as VP candidate (in [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=480643), for example) have turned out to be groundless.

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