# If you're a Bernie supporter, are you willing to vote for Hillary? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 18, 2016, 9:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-a-bernie-supporter-are-you-willing-to-vote-for-hillary/755070 "2016-05-18T09:36:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2016, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-a-bernie-supporter-are-you-willing-to-vote-for-hillary/755070/261 "2016-06-10T12:28:24Z")
> [@Onetruth](#): > > I see the majority of people believing that simply because a candidate has the most delegates that they are automatically the one everyone is going to side with, and that could not be farther from the truth. > > Bernie mentioned several polls that show people favor him greatly over Trump that also show Hillary and Trump being neck and neck. > > CNN has mentioned several times over that Bernie supporters are siding more with Trump than Hillary, so we can clearly expect Trump to win by a landslide should she steal the democratic nomination, which she has done. > > To present the straight dope on the matter - Hillary has supported NAFTA for a very long time and was even caught lying to the American people saying she was suspicious of it while White House documents prove she was supporting it will Bill. I challenge everyone who doesn’t honestly know what NAFTA is, to watch a documentary called, [Trading Democracy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lE1u1SSVK8) with Bill Moyers. If you vote for Hillary you are voting to give multi-national corporations more power of communities than the officials that we elect into office, and that is simply reprehensible. > > Long in short - vote Bernie if you want democracy and equality, vote Hillary of you like extreme poverty and fascism and vote Trump of you want politically incorrect national security and a revamped economy. Bernie won’t be on any more ballots after the DC primary. So–you want people to waste their votes on a write-in candidate? Most Bernie supporters are fine folks but a few have been for Trump all along. Oh, that Edmund Burke quotation [is bogus](http://quoteinvestigator.com/2010/12/04/good-men-do/). ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2016, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-a-bernie-supporter-are-you-willing-to-vote-for-hillary/755070/262 "2016-06-10T13:02:39Z")
Whatever our new poster’s motivations are or really believes one thing we can expect to see across all social media platforms are new contributors claiming to be Sanders supporters beating the drums that Clinton “stole” the nomination and is a crooked stooge, while Trump will “shake things up.” Some of these people will be the few true Bernie or Bust folks, this election’s PUMAs. Many will be Trump supporters trying to stir up shit. Not sure what the best sort of response to the group of fresh faces making these sorts of contributions should be. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2016, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-a-bernie-supporter-are-you-willing-to-vote-for-hillary/755070/263 "2016-06-10T21:52:20Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > Whatever our new poster’s motivations are or really believes one thing we can expect to see across all social media platforms are new contributors claiming to be Sanders supporters beating the drums that Clinton “stole” the nomination and is a crooked stooge, while Trump will “shake things up.” > > Some of these people will be the few true Bernie or Bust folks, this election’s PUMAs. Many will be Trump supporters trying to stir up shit. > > Not sure what the best sort of response to the group of fresh faces making these sorts of contributions should be. We could offer them free _ **Proud Professional Astroturfer** _ t-shirts. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-a-bernie-supporter-are-you-willing-to-vote-for-hillary/755070/264 "2016-06-11T00:40:30Z")
[Site I’ve never heard of polls about 800 people and predicts that over 91% of Bernie supporters will not vote for Hillary.](http://embols.com/2016/06/08/whoa-91-41-of-bernie-sanders-supporters-will-not-support-hillary-clinton-if-she-is-nominee/) ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-a-bernie-supporter-are-you-willing-to-vote-for-hillary/755070/265 "2016-06-11T01:37:35Z")
And they are idiots. When I was 14 I had a choice between LBJ and RMN. I was McCarthy all the way, but realized AS A HIGH SCHOOL FRESHMAN that there were bigger stakes in play. At the time we would call those people “retards.” I don’t believe the term has changed in those 48 years. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-a-bernie-supporter-are-you-willing-to-vote-for-hillary/755070/266 "2016-06-11T04:25:13Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > [Site I’ve never heard of polls about 800 people and predicts that over 91% of Bernie supporters will not vote for Hillary.](http://embols.com/2016/06/08/whoa-91-41-of-bernie-sanders-supporters-will-not-support-hillary-clinton-if-she-is-nominee/) With a 95% MOE. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-a-bernie-supporter-are-you-willing-to-vote-for-hillary/755070/267 "2016-06-11T04:33:10Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > And they are idiots. When I was 14 I had a choice between LBJ and RMN. I was McCarthy all the way, but realized AS A HIGH SCHOOL FRESHMAN that there were bigger stakes in play. > > At the time we would call those people “retards.” I don’t believe the term has changed in those 48 years. In the case of LBJ vs. Nixon, what were the bigger stakes? Both favored the Vietnam War, both favored civil rights, both favored environmental protection. I would think we’d all agree that a vote for Nixon was a pretty valid objection to the direction of the Democratic Party at the time. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-a-bernie-supporter-are-you-willing-to-vote-for-hillary/755070/268 "2016-06-11T11:58:41Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > [Site I’ve never heard of polls about 800 people and predicts that over 91% of Bernie supporters will not vote for Hillary.](http://embols.com/2016/06/08/whoa-91-41-of-bernie-sanders-supporters-will-not-support-hillary-clinton-if-she-is-nominee/) I don’t take seriously polls I’ve never heard of, and even if it were Gallup’s numbers, I would take those with a grain of salt until September. There’s a lot of time between now and late September for Trump to show us just how awful a president he would be. And I trust he will do that. And if he softens his tone, then he’ll come across as inauthentic. That’s the problem with voting for the authentic candidate. At some point, reality begins to settle in and you can actually begin to imagine _this_ guy running an economy and a global military. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-a-bernie-supporter-are-you-willing-to-vote-for-hillary/755070/269 "2016-06-11T18:39:35Z")
I doubt anyone would take that ‘poll’ seriously except the most vapid of Bernie supporters. Leaving aside the fact that no one has ever heard of the site, the polls I’ve seen were on the order of 20-25% not voting for Clinton, and that at 6 or 7 months from the election. It’s clearly some kind of propaganda. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-a-bernie-supporter-are-you-willing-to-vote-for-hillary/755070.md?page=13)