# If you're not watching "Human Target" then you hate America **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 24, 2010, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-not-watching-human-target-then-you-hate-america/533613 "2010-03-24T12:53:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2010, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-not-watching-human-target-then-you-hate-america/533613/61 "2010-04-15T16:01:10Z")
> [@simster](#): > > I’m betting the same thing, but remember the boat blew up 6 years ago… Wasn’t he standing at her grave the previous episode? And doesn’t he have her dog? ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2010, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-not-watching-human-target-then-you-hate-america/533613/62 "2010-04-15T16:18:39Z")
This is one of my favorite shows, it is pure entertainment, but it isn’t 100% lightweight, either. They better bring it back or I will write a very sternly worded letter to FOX. VERY sternley worded, I tel you. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2010, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-not-watching-human-target-then-you-hate-america/533613/63 "2010-04-15T16:29:43Z")
> [@Contrapuntal](#): > > Wasn’t he standing at her grave the previous episode? And doesn’t he have her dog? yes and yes. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2010, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-not-watching-human-target-then-you-hate-america/533613/64 "2010-04-15T16:34:10Z")
> [@simster](#): > > yes and yes. Witness protection. If it gets a second season, I’d bet that she shows up in the finale alive. TV writers are predictable. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2010, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-not-watching-human-target-then-you-hate-america/533613/65 "2010-04-15T16:35:52Z")
> [@simster](#): > > yes and yes. So you’re betting that the first yes represents dome kind of a dodge? I suppose it could, but it would be a pretty unfair one. In the flashbacks the previous Chance made it clear that she died, as did Winston, IIRC. ---
**Author:** ![tr0psn4j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@tr0psn4j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tr0psn4j)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2010, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-not-watching-human-target-then-you-hate-america/533613/66 "2010-04-15T17:28:38Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > Witness protection. If it gets a second season, I’d bet that she shows up in the finale alive. TV writers are predictable. I’m predictable too. This is usually the time when I say, “No way in hell will they do that again,” only to look like an idiot when the finale airs. ☹ So, yeah, “No way in hell will they do that again.” ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2010, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-not-watching-human-target-then-you-hate-america/533613/67 "2010-04-15T17:53:47Z")
> [@Contrapuntal](#): > > So you’re betting that the first yes represents dome kind of a dodge? I suppose it could, but it would be a pretty unfair one. In the flashbacks the previous Chance made it clear that she died, as did Winston, IIRC. yep - [spoiler]and one that apparently Chance is not aware of either. As for Winston being ‘captured’ - part of the plan ‘take the fight to them’ and all.[/spoiler] ---
**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2010, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-not-watching-human-target-then-you-hate-america/533613/68 "2010-04-16T01:24:34Z")
Two things make me think this series won’t be continued. Ok, 3…the third is ‘I like the series!’ It is a sign of impending doom when I like something. [spoiler] 1 This puts me much in mind of the ‘Out of Gas’ episode of Firely. A show that basically shows the roots and beginnings of where they are now. But they showed it \ too late; if it’d been shown earlier, people would have gotten into the show earlier, thereby boosting it’s ratings and perhaps lengthening it’s life. It seems that Human Target did kind of the same thing. 2 Bear MacCreary did the music for both Firefly and Human Target. SIGNS OF DOOM, I SAY!! [/spoiler] And yep, Guerrero’s a recreation of an old flame. The skirmish scene twixt him and Chance just proves it! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2010, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-not-watching-human-target-then-you-hate-america/533613/69 "2010-04-16T01:55:53Z")
I can’t edit my post, but I was wrong. Macreary did the music for BSG, not Firefly. My bad! Ok so one less reason the show might fail to be picked up… ---
**Author:** ![Kiros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/439d5e/32.png) [@Kiros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kiros)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2010, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-not-watching-human-target-then-you-hate-america/533613/70 "2010-04-16T03:35:51Z")
I get angry even reading this thread and thus entertaining the possibility that this won’t get picked up. Over the course of one season it went from “entertaining bad-TV” to “quality fun stuff that you can’t take seriously” to “actually pretty damn good considering most of what’s out there”. The cast works well together, they pull all sorts of great guest stars, and it’s shot out of basically nowhere to become one of my favorites of the season. I want it back and I want it back **now**. Also, Lassie’s goatee was _ridiculous_. It either ruined the episode or completely made it, I don’t know which. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2010, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-not-watching-human-target-then-you-hate-america/533613/71 "2010-04-16T12:34:33Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > The notion of rolling a plane upside down to put the fire into the ‘higher speed air above’ was so stupid on so many levels that I couldn’t believe that was the actual solution the writers came up with. > […] > And the first episode where somehow Chance knew the exact angle that the airflow would be going off the back of the train and could rig a dual parachute harness in about 5 seconds… Those were more over the top than was the norm for the first season, which ended this past Wednesday. All the episodes had suspend-your-disbelief stunts, but those two were the worst. I think they wanted good promo stunts to tease the early episode and get interest up. The crazy stunts settled down a bit after that. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Controvert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dec6dc/32.png) [@The\_Controvert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Controvert)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2010, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-not-watching-human-target-then-you-hate-america/533613/72 "2010-08-23T02:08:44Z")
For those of us wondering, the second season returns October 1st, [according to Fox.](http://www.fox.com/programming/shows/?sh=humantarget) ---
**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2010, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-not-watching-human-target-then-you-hate-america/533613/73 "2010-08-23T06:45:52Z")
I’m having trouble trying to quantify my disinterest. I love all of the actors. I like the premise, and the fact that it’s based on a comic. I feel like I’ve enjoyed the episodes that I’ve watched. And yet, for some reason, it has always ended up as the least priority of watching on my tivo list. And eventually when it came time to free up space, I erased everything except for the origin episode without much dismay. And then eventually erased even that episode without much dismay. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Controvert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dec6dc/32.png) [@The\_Controvert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Controvert)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2010, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-not-watching-human-target-then-you-hate-america/533613/74 "2010-08-23T14:54:10Z")
Guerrero’s character is very interesting. Would he be classified Chaotic-Neutral? Or is he now Chaotic Good? I think Winston was Lawful Good and is currently Lawful Good (but struggling to remain so). Chance was Lawful Evil and became Lawful Good. Although the “Lawful” part may be questionable… he ultimately did not kill Baptiste in cold blood. In the same situation, Guerrero would not have a problem with pulling the trigger. Here’s a little joke I just thought of: What does Winston carry in his holster? Answer: His Emerson Cod Piece ---
**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2010, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-not-watching-human-target-then-you-hate-america/533613/75 "2010-08-23T16:02:30Z")
\*_jackdavinci_, you clearly do hate America. ---
**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2010, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-not-watching-human-target-then-you-hate-america/533613/76 "2010-08-23T18:55:38Z")
> [@JThunder](#): > > \*_jackdavinci_, you clearly do hate America. That would seem to be the inescapable conclusion. ---
**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2010, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-not-watching-human-target-then-you-hate-america/533613/77 "2010-08-23T20:09:36Z")
I didn’t know it was still on - I meant to catch it in reruns, but haven’t even seen an advert for it. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-not-watching-human-target-then-you-hate-america/533613/78 "2010-08-24T03:04:41Z")
Significant changes for next year, including a new female “boss” and the exit of Bear McCreary’s music. ---
**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-not-watching-human-target-then-you-hate-america/533613/79 "2010-08-24T06:21:05Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Significant changes for next year, including a new female “boss” and the exit of Bear McCreary’s music. I have to say, while Bear’s musical contribution to BSG was quite noticeable and also integral to the plot, I didn’t really notice it at all in HT. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-not-watching-human-target-then-you-hate-america/533613.md?page=3)