# If you're white and all you can think about is how good blacks have it, you're an idiot **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 6, 2009, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-white-and-all-you-can-think-about-is-how-good-blacks-have-it-youre-an-idiot/502048 "2009-07-06T04:26:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-white-and-all-you-can-think-about-is-how-good-blacks-have-it-youre-an-idiot/502048/1 "2009-07-06T04:26:36Z")
If you: Bemoan the fact you can’t call people “nigger” or “nigga” Think “The Fighting Whiteys” is the awesomest team name EVER Wonder why there can’t be a respected NAAWP Want to hang nooses in trees for decorative purposes Start sentences with “I’m not racist, but…” … or otherwise consider yourself to be persecuted, oppressed, or otherwise less lucky than black people as a whole, you’re a complete fucking idiot and you embarrass yourself each time you talk about your terrible, terrible misfortune in being born white. ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-white-and-all-you-can-think-about-is-how-good-blacks-have-it-youre-an-idiot/502048/2 "2009-07-06T04:35:09Z")
Hey, I’m not prejudiced. Some of my best friends are racists. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-white-and-all-you-can-think-about-is-how-good-blacks-have-it-youre-an-idiot/502048/3 "2009-07-06T04:39:46Z")
Hear hear. The Miss Black America pageant thread, for example, kind of bugged me for that reason. Or some comments in that pit thread about that Nigaz company or whatever it was. ---
**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-white-and-all-you-can-think-about-is-how-good-blacks-have-it-youre-an-idiot/502048/4 "2009-07-06T05:06:16Z")
Is it okay if I still bitch about black kids appropriating the worst aspects of white suburban youth culture? I threw my shoulder out pointing and laughing at black scenesters and now all I can physically do is fume at how ridiculous they look. ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-white-and-all-you-can-think-about-is-how-good-blacks-have-it-youre-an-idiot/502048/5 "2009-07-06T05:25:42Z")
White suburban youth don’t have a culture. Only brown people are allowed to have cultures now. ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-white-and-all-you-can-think-about-is-how-good-blacks-have-it-youre-an-idiot/502048/6 "2009-07-06T05:34:40Z")
White people have neither race nor culture. They are the norm from which all other people and cultures deviate. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-white-and-all-you-can-think-about-is-how-good-blacks-have-it-youre-an-idiot/502048/7 "2009-07-06T05:42:10Z")
Hummmm. Okay. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-white-and-all-you-can-think-about-is-how-good-blacks-have-it-youre-an-idiot/502048/8 "2009-07-06T05:51:10Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > If you: > > Bemoan the fact you can’t call people “nigger” or “nigga” > > Think “The Fighting Whiteys” is the awesomest team name EVER > > Wonder why there can’t be a respected NAAWP > > Want to hang nooses in trees for decorative purposes > > Start sentences with “I’m not racist, but…” > … or otherwise consider yourself to be persecuted, oppressed, or otherwise less lucky than black people as a whole, you’re a complete fucking idiot and you embarrass yourself each time you talk about your terrible, terrible misfortune in being born white. None of the things you listed indicate that somebody who believe them would think that blacks, in general, have it better than whites. ---
**Author:** ![3trew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/13edae/32.png) [@3trew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/3trew)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-white-and-all-you-can-think-about-is-how-good-blacks-have-it-youre-an-idiot/502048/9 "2009-07-06T06:01:03Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > None of the things you listed indicate that somebody who believe them would think that blacks, in general, have it better than whites. Go find somebody who says one of those things. Ask them if they think that blacks, in general, have it better than whites. Please report the answer verbatim. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Fight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-white-and-all-you-can-think-about-is-how-good-blacks-have-it-youre-an-idiot/502048/10 "2009-07-06T06:13:41Z")
> [@MOIDALIZE](#): > > Is it okay if I still bitch about black kids appropriating the worst aspects of white suburban youth culture? I threw my shoulder out pointing and laughing at black scenesters and now all I can physically do is fume at how ridiculous they look. Hey, everyone deserves the freedom to buy used genital-crushing jeans, neon hats and wacky fake spectacles. Regardless of their race, gender, creed or Twitter feed. I’m sorry, but it’s just [sob] what I believe. It is interesting though perhaps not unsurprising that some people assume more freedoms or advancement for one group automatically means less freedom and a worse situation for others. ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-white-and-all-you-can-think-about-is-how-good-blacks-have-it-youre-an-idiot/502048/11 "2009-07-06T07:27:40Z")
Google: > [@](#): > > No results found for “terrible misfortune in being born white” ---
**Author:** ![ashman165](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e8cbc/32.png) [@ashman165](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ashman165)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-white-and-all-you-can-think-about-is-how-good-blacks-have-it-youre-an-idiot/502048/12 "2009-07-06T07:32:14Z")
> [@Zoe](#): > > Google: [Really](http://www.google.com/search?q=terrible+misfortune+in+being+born+white&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a)? ---
**Author:** ![bubba\_jr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e95f7d/32.png) [@bubba\_jr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bubba_jr)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-white-and-all-you-can-think-about-is-how-good-blacks-have-it-youre-an-idiot/502048/13 "2009-07-06T07:34:18Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > Bemoan the fact you can’t call people “nigger” or “nigga” Yes, I do bemoan this, either its an “acceptable” word or its not. The double standard BS is just a bunch of crap. > [@](#): > > Wonder why there can’t be a respected NAAWP Again, why not, seems like a double standard. As stated in a thread on this same page “black” or africans are the most genetically diverse group of people on the planet, therefore, me as a white should be able to celebrate my relative genetic rarity. > [@](#): > > Start sentences with “I’m not racist, but…” The sad thing is that you have to start a sentence like that. The sentence should simply be “he’s an asshole” not “I’m not a racist, but he’s an asshole”. If you’re an asshole, you’re an asshole, pink purple green white or black, you’re an asshole. BTW, that was my dad’s racism lecture while I was growing up. As for black people being privledged, it kind of sucks for them, I would say they are at a disadvantage, but only slightly, no worse than a fat or ugly white person. Quick aside, I was just over in Taiwan, and the guy I was staying with was telling me how incredibly prejudiced they are against black over there. I really didn’t believe it until coming back I had a layover in Tokyo, and coming off the plane they stuff you in this little tram thing. We were packing in like sardines. I was one of the first on, and two black guys after me, they stood next to me on the wall, well dressed, brief cases, the whole tram was packed, except for an empty circle around these two black guys. I had about 6 people stuffed up against me to the right and plenty of breathing room to the left. So I guess, yes, they are privledged, they didn’t have a pile of hot sweaty people pushed up against them in the hottest most humid airport(or building for that matter) I’ve ever been in. I was just lucky to grab on to their tailcoats and only have half my body smushed by sweaty people. On a more serious note, I except that kind of crap from my grandfather, racist SOB he is(he’s still my gramps though) and he has black and puerto rican friends, go figure. It was just strange. ---
**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-white-and-all-you-can-think-about-is-how-good-blacks-have-it-youre-an-idiot/502048/14 "2009-07-06T07:34:44Z")
Anyone who thinks blacks have it so good should walk through a random white neighborhood and a random black neighborhood at night. Hell, even during the day. There’s a really good chance the white neighborhood is a better, safer, and wealthier place to be born into. ---
**Author:** ![ashman165](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e8cbc/32.png) [@ashman165](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ashman165)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-white-and-all-you-can-think-about-is-how-good-blacks-have-it-youre-an-idiot/502048/15 "2009-07-06T07:59:14Z")
> [@Mosier](#): > > Anyone who thinks blacks have it so good should walk through a random white neighborhood and a random black neighborhood at night. Hell, even during the day. There’s a really good chance the white neighborhood is a better, safer, and wealthier place to be born into. Well, there’s a simple way to determine this. Just start picking out some relevant communities randomly and go through them. I’d be most curious to see, though, whether a white in an all black community after dark would fare better than a black in an all white community after dark. In that case, I’m not sure that being white in the all black community would be a bonus. At least not if one buys in the popular view anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-white-and-all-you-can-think-about-is-how-good-blacks-have-it-youre-an-idiot/502048/16 "2009-07-06T11:01:01Z")
> [@ashman165](#): > > [Really](http://www.google.com/search?q=terrible+misfortune+in+being+born+white&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a)? Quotation marks not optional. ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-white-and-all-you-can-think-about-is-how-good-blacks-have-it-youre-an-idiot/502048/17 "2009-07-06T11:06:46Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > Think “The Fighting Whiteys” is the awesomest team name EVER I really feel like this doesn’t belong in this particular rant. The original Fighting Whites were a mix of Native American, latino, and white students who chose the name to protest the stereotypical use of Native Americans for team mascots. > **[Fighting Whites](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_Whites)** > > The Fighting Whites (alternatively identified as Fightin' Whites, Fighting Whities, or Fightin' Whities) were an intramural basketball team formed at the University of Northern Colorado in 2002 and named in response to the Native American mascot controversy. > The intramural college team briefly attracted a storm of national attention because of its satirical protest about stereotypes of Native Americans being used as sports mascots, particularly the "Fightin' Reds" of Eaton High School in Eaton, ... ---
**Author:** ![ashman165](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e8cbc/32.png) [@ashman165](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ashman165)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-white-and-all-you-can-think-about-is-how-good-blacks-have-it-youre-an-idiot/502048/18 "2009-07-06T11:07:06Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Quotation marks not optional. Oh, I misunderstood the use of them. My mistake. ---
**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-white-and-all-you-can-think-about-is-how-good-blacks-have-it-youre-an-idiot/502048/19 "2009-07-06T11:27:48Z")
What is this thread all about and why was it necessary to call it into existence? ---
**Author:** ![ashman165](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e8cbc/32.png) [@ashman165](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ashman165)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-white-and-all-you-can-think-about-is-how-good-blacks-have-it-youre-an-idiot/502048/20 "2009-07-06T11:52:52Z")
> [@LouisB](#): > > What is this thread all about and why was it necessary to call it into existence? Near as I can tell it’s that The Great Evil of Racism happened against the blacks in the past, and it is thus justified for them to use The Great Evil of Racism\* in the present. \*Only, it isn’t racism so long as the target of it a white person. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-youre-white-and-all-you-can-think-about-is-how-good-blacks-have-it-youre-an-idiot/502048.md?page=2)