# Ifyouareplayingwerewolfdonotenter

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ifyouareplayingwerewolfdonotenter/391975>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [February 13, 2007, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ifyouareplayingwerewolfdonotenter/391975 "2007-02-13T03:44:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2007, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ifyouareplayingwerewolfdonotenter/391975/361 "2007-03-18T14:21:48Z")

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Is this what heaven is like, a re-hash of life on earth? I was expecting a perfect thread full of answers to my legal homework constructed in iambic pentameter using Buffy references.

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**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2007, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ifyouareplayingwerewolfdonotenter/391975/362 "2007-03-18T14:53:27Z")

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[QUOTE=Richard Parker]  
Is this what heaven is like, a re-hash of life on earth? I was expecting a perfect thread full of answers to my legal homework constructed in iambic pentameter using Buffy references.  
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Isn’t that precious? He thought he deserved to go to _heaven_.  
:snicker snicker snicker:

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**Author:** ![Fern\_Forest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/71c47a/32.png) [@Fern\_Forest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fern_Forest)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2007, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ifyouareplayingwerewolfdonotenter/391975/363 "2007-03-18T18:43:07Z")

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[QUOTE=StarvingButStrong]  
Isn’t that precious? He thought he deserved to go to _heaven_.  
:snicker snicker snicker:  
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So you think we should lynch him?

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**Author:** ![sturmhauke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@sturmhauke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sturmhauke)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2007, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ifyouareplayingwerewolfdonotenter/391975/364 "2007-03-18T20:29:23Z")

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This isn’t Heaven, it’s a cursed existence where we are all doomed to battle and kill and die each day, only to be reborn the next day and do it again, for all eternity.

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**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2007, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ifyouareplayingwerewolfdonotenter/391975/365 "2007-03-18T20:58:09Z")

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[QUOTE=sturmhauke]  
This isn’t Heaven, it’s a cursed existence where we are all doomed to battle and kill and die each day, only to be reborn the next day and do it again, for all eternity.  
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Val-howl-a, huh?

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**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2007, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ifyouareplayingwerewolfdonotenter/391975/366 "2007-03-18T22:07:45Z")

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Oh come on! See what I did there? Valhowla? ValHOWLa? Huh? Huh?

Philistines, the lot of you.

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**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2007, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ifyouareplayingwerewolfdonotenter/391975/367 "2007-03-18T22:13:38Z")

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I laughed.

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2007, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ifyouareplayingwerewolfdonotenter/391975/368 "2007-03-19T03:12:28Z")

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Hey, I had a thought–I wonder if it’d be an underhanded way to gain information on the last werewolf or two by noticing when the votes seemed to come in and relating that to the timezone of their location field.

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**Author:** ![Menocchio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@Menocchio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Menocchio)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2007, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ifyouareplayingwerewolfdonotenter/391975/369 "2007-03-19T03:28:04Z")

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[QUOTE=Zeriel]  
Hey, I had a thought–I wonder if it’d be an underhanded way to gain information on the last werewolf or two by noticing when the votes seemed to come in and relating that to the timezone of their location field.  
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Unless they came in while RT was sleeping or working or something and didn’t tell us for awhile.

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**Author:** ![sturmhauke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@sturmhauke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sturmhauke)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2007, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ifyouareplayingwerewolfdonotenter/391975/370 "2007-03-19T07:39:18Z")

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[QUOTE=Zeriel]  
Hey, I had a thought–I wonder if it’d be an underhanded way to gain information on the last werewolf or two by noticing when the votes seemed to come in and relating that to the timezone of their location field.  
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Plenty of people don’t have an actual location listed, and even if they did, they might be online at odd hours. I can’t see that being especially useful.

> [@Ogre](#):
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> Oh come on! See what I did there? Valhowla? ValHOWLa? Huh? Huh?
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> Philistines, the lot of you.

I barked with laughter.

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**Author:** ![Fern\_Forest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/71c47a/32.png) [@Fern\_Forest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fern_Forest)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2007, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ifyouareplayingwerewolfdonotenter/391975/371 "2007-03-19T07:53:20Z")

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Interesting. When this thread is at the top of IMHO and you’re looking at the board list it’s titled is given as “…”

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**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2007, 8:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ifyouareplayingwerewolfdonotenter/391975/372 "2007-03-19T08:44:36Z")

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_yawn_ Drove up to Humboldt to visit my Mom this weekend. I probably would’ve put money on the game being over by now, if I were the betting type.

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**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2007, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ifyouareplayingwerewolfdonotenter/391975/373 "2007-03-19T14:36:22Z")

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Captain Karrot is 100% confirmed townie, and I’m surprised nobody has picked up on that yet. After RT sent roles out, he added 3 more players. Karrot, kytheria/dnooman, and moonstar. moonstar is confirmed townie, dnooman is confirmed wolf. No way that 2 out of the 3 late-adds would be wolves.

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**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2007, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ifyouareplayingwerewolfdonotenter/391975/374 "2007-03-19T15:07:19Z")

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[QUOTE=zuma]  
Captain Karrot is 100% confirmed townie, and I’m surprised nobody has picked up on that yet. After RT sent roles out, he added 3 more players. Karrot, kytheria/dnooman, and moonstar. moonstar is confirmed townie, dnooman is confirmed wolf. No way that 2 out of the 3 late-adds would be wolves.  
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To me, that is not 100% confirmation, though it’s an intriguing theory.

One possible hole in it - are we sure that the roles sent out were set in stone? Could RT have sent an alteration later… “Sorry for the confusion, but I’m making you a mason instead of a werewolf.”

🙂

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2007, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ifyouareplayingwerewolfdonotenter/391975/375 "2007-03-19T15:26:01Z")

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[QUOTE=chrisk]  
To me, that is not 100% confirmation, though it’s an intriguing theory.

One possible hole in it - are we sure that the roles sent out were set in stone? Could RT have sent an alteration later… “Sorry for the confusion, but I’m making you a mason instead of a werewolf.”

🙂  
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Depends when people find out who their fellow Masons/werewolves are, of course.

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**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2007, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ifyouareplayingwerewolfdonotenter/391975/376 "2007-03-19T16:54:12Z")

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No roles were changed, i’ll say that much. Once the emails were out, no-one has been switched to a diffferent role. And when people have joined partway through, in the case of **dnooman** and **unfinished symphony** , they took on the roles of the people they replaced.

Regarding getting an idea from when I post the results of the night; **Menocchio’s** right. Sometimes i’ll be on when the vote is made, and i’ll post it straight away. Sometimes i’m sleeping or at uni, so I post it later. I don’t think it’s a good way of guessing werewolves.

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**Author:** ![Amblydoper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/fbc32d/32.png) [@Amblydoper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amblydoper)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2007, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ifyouareplayingwerewolfdonotenter/391975/377 "2007-03-20T05:11:50Z")

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[QUOTE=Revenant Threshold]  
The werewolves want to get rid of all of them. The townies would prefer to lose townies, since every townie lost decreased the pool that the **werewolf** can be hiding in - because they can (at this point) only be one of the townies.  
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RT, you slipped up! I am surprised no one else caught this yet.  
I am **not** surprised that their is only one wolf left.

Although, I was wondering about the possibility that a wolf could be among the masons. A common mafia variation is “Monks and Masons” where there is mafia and werewolves as bad guys, and masons and monks as well as townies and other roles. The monks are all NOT werewolves but could be mafia, and the masons are all NOT mafia but could be werewolves.

RT would be deviously evil if he made one werewolf a mason. The town’s strategy would fall apart when they lynch the three “unknowns” and yet the game continued. IF that is the case, this game is far from over.

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**Author:** ![Fern\_Forest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/71c47a/32.png) [@Fern\_Forest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fern_Forest)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2007, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ifyouareplayingwerewolfdonotenter/391975/378 "2007-03-20T06:32:16Z")

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If that’s the case then what would keep that Wolf/Mason from revealing who the other masons were during the night? Wouldn’t be smart to kill the other two masons immediately?

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**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2007, 9:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ifyouareplayingwerewolfdonotenter/391975/379 "2007-03-20T09:46:10Z")

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By the way, a somewhat silly thought occured to me. I think that as a straight dope tradition, in all further games of werewolf, the Guardian Angel should instead be refered to as a Guardian Ogre.

Not so much in honor of our own **Ogre** … but who doesn’t love the image of an Ogre surreptitiously slipping forth from his hovel and trying to protect the townspeople from werewolves?

😃

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**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2007, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ifyouareplayingwerewolfdonotenter/391975/380 "2007-03-20T14:28:58Z")

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…and getting torn apart by a pack of werewolves in a long, tragic, slow-motion camera shot?

🙂

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