# Ifyouareplayingwerewolfdonotenter **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [February 13, 2007, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ifyouareplayingwerewolfdonotenter/391975 "2007-02-13T03:44:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2007, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ifyouareplayingwerewolfdonotenter/391975/381 "2007-03-20T19:01:32Z")
Congrats on the dissertation stuff, RT! However, I think you might have lost track of day & night slightly… > [@Revenant Threshold](#): > > You might think they’d be more lenient on a fellow creature. Wolves are, however, dogs. That line seems more appropriate to a night-time lunching than a daytime lynching. Wasn’t the dogs as killed the **Kat** … not entirely at least. It was the masons. (Maybe they dropped a brick on the kitty?) EDITED: In fact, reviewing the vote count, it was the ‘confirmed townie’ vote block who lynched Kat. No wolves at all in that list… at least, apparently not. ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2007, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ifyouareplayingwerewolfdonotenter/391975/382 "2007-03-20T19:08:52Z")
Ah, but it isn’t just the Masons and townies voting in the day - the wolves do too. I meant that perhaps we might expect the wolves to go soft on **Kat** , and perhaps vote for **Captain Carrot** , whom they’d probably prefer not to eat. And thanks. 😃 I shall be grinning like a loon for quite a while yet. [QUOTE=CoG888] Bolding=mine RT, you slipped up! I am surprised no one else caught this yet. I am not surprised that their is only one wolf left. [/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Revenant Threshold] \*\*Say there are \*\* 3 Masons and 4 townies. The werewolves want to get rid of all of them. The townies would prefer to lose townies, since every townie lost decreased the pool that the werewolf can be hiding in - because they can (at this point) only be one of the townies. [/QUOTE] Just a hypothetical, i’m afraid. Not a slipup. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2007, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ifyouareplayingwerewolfdonotenter/391975/383 "2007-03-20T19:33:07Z")
And another Townie bites the dust. Are the wolves actually going to pull off an upset? _humming a heavenly Dar Williams song…_ > [@](#): > > I’m up in heaven now they say I’m here to stay > Where the clouds are really puffy and the angels sing every day > Alleluia Alleluia Alleluia, Wo-oh . . . > > The cafeteria’s got everything it’s gonna drive me mad > Cause it looks just like a big Hawaiian party that my mother had > It’s like the worst Elvis film I’ve ever seen > Technicolor luau all on technicolor green > There’s camping trips and donkey rides and singing round the fire > And they signed me up for surfing > But they can’t get me in the choir > Alleluia Alleluia Alleluia, Wo-oh . . . > > But there she was this morning getting fitted for her wings > Leather boots magenta hair and saying nasty things > I’d say she was an angel but it’s stupid and it’s obvious > I said you’ll hate it here cause we’re the only ones like us > It’s crypto-fascist mania it’s silicon deliria > Yeah, she said, you’re right, but I like the cafeteria ---
**Author:** ![Kat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b19c9b/32.png) [@Kat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kat)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2007, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ifyouareplayingwerewolfdonotenter/391975/384 "2007-03-20T21:04:40Z")
I don’t think they will. There’s a 50/50 chance now that the last werewolf get lynched “tomorrow”, and even if another townie gets lynched, they’ll still outnumber the werewolf the following day. ---
**Author:** ![dnooman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/839c29/32.png) [@dnooman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dnooman)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2007, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ifyouareplayingwerewolfdonotenter/391975/385 "2007-03-21T05:21:58Z")
Perhaps someone can calculate the “luck” factors involved in this game. There should have been a 25% chance or so on the initial turn for the wolves to kill a “role playing” townie on the first night. There should have been a 5% chance (or so) of killing the Alpha wolf on day one. I guess it goes to show that stats, don’t predict reality every time. Town wins for this game. There is no way around it. I’m not happy with the way that I played, much of the loss can be blamed on me. ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2007, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ifyouareplayingwerewolfdonotenter/391975/386 "2007-03-21T15:29:18Z")
[QUOTE=dnooman] Perhaps someone can calculate the “luck” factors involved in this game. There should have been a 25% chance or so on the initial turn for the wolves to kill a “role playing” townie on the first night. There should have been a 5% chance (or so) of killing the Alpha wolf on day one. [/QUOTE] Thing is, it’s not a matter of luck, really. No one’s flipping a coin or throwing darts at a board. The posting in the thread gives us information, and that makes it a game of skill, not luck. I was fairly confident that Menocchio was scum. No way of knowing that he was specifically the alpha, of course, that was just gravy. But it’s far from random. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2007, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ifyouareplayingwerewolfdonotenter/391975/387 "2007-03-21T16:22:25Z")
So is it just me, or do the remaining players seem to have totally lost interest? I understand why they would have too, but it is a shame that everything has just…ended before the game is even over. Is this common in internet versions of the game, players just lose interest as the end draws near? ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2007, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ifyouareplayingwerewolfdonotenter/391975/388 "2007-03-21T16:24:48Z")
[QUOTE=NAF1138] So is it just me, or do the remaining players seem to have totally lost interest? I understand why they would have too, but it is a shame that everything has just…ended before the game is even over. Is this common in internet versions of the game, players just lose interest as the end draws near? [/QUOTE] I think the remaining townies are somewhat interested, but bored at having to wait for the big bad wolf to decide who he’s going to bump off. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Menocchio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@Menocchio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Menocchio)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2007, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ifyouareplayingwerewolfdonotenter/391975/389 "2007-03-21T16:25:25Z")
[QUOTE=NAF1138] So is it just me, or do the remaining players seem to have totally lost interest? I understand why they would have too, but it is a shame that everything has just…ended before the game is even over. Is this common in internet versions of the game, players just lose interest as the end draws near? [/QUOTE] It’s mathematically impossible for the werewolves to win at this point. There’s no challenge at this point, and it’s hard to get excited about whether the wolves lose today or the day after that. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2007, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ifyouareplayingwerewolfdonotenter/391975/390 "2007-03-21T16:34:59Z")
[QUOTE=Menocchio] It’s mathematically impossible for the werewolves to win at this point. There’s no challenge at this point, and it’s hard to get excited about whether the wolves lose today or the day after that. [/QUOTE] I totally get that. So if it an impossibility for the wolves to win, why not end the game? We know that the game would have ended if it became an imposibility for the townies to win, so why not the wolves? At this point is does seem a bit like beating a dead horse. ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2007, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ifyouareplayingwerewolfdonotenter/391975/391 "2007-03-21T16:48:25Z")
[QUOTE=Menocchio] It’s mathematically impossible for the werewolves to win at this point. There’s no challenge at this point, and it’s hard to get excited about whether the wolves lose today or the day after that. [/QUOTE] I would say it’s practically impossible. The mathematics do not say that the confirmed townies won’t start lynching each other and ignoring the remaining suspect players… however practical considerations make that exceedingly unlikely. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2007, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ifyouareplayingwerewolfdonotenter/391975/392 "2007-03-21T17:12:13Z")
That’s a pretty good point, actually. I’ll stick a question in the thread asking what people think. ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2007, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ifyouareplayingwerewolfdonotenter/391975/393 "2007-03-21T18:31:24Z")
so, this is the forbidden thread. Strange, somehow I thought it would be… bigger 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Fern\_Forest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/71c47a/32.png) [@Fern\_Forest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fern_Forest)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2007, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ifyouareplayingwerewolfdonotenter/391975/394 "2007-03-22T02:51:36Z")
[QUOTE=Revenant Threshold] That’s a pretty good point, actually. I’ll stick a question in the thread asking what people think. [/QUOTE] So, is someone going to take over the Narrator role for RT? And ask the mods if we can play again? I can’t wait, that was such a fun game to read. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2007, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ifyouareplayingwerewolfdonotenter/391975/395 "2007-03-22T03:13:47Z")
[QUOTE=zuma] Captain Karrot is 100% confirmed townie, and I’m surprised nobody has picked up on that yet. After RT sent roles out, he added 3 more players. Karrot, kytheria/dnooman, and moonstar. moonstar is confirmed townie, dnooman is confirmed wolf. No way that 2 out of the 3 late-adds would be wolves. [/QUOTE] FTR, my name has 2 Cs and no K. _C_aptain _C_arrot. ---
**Author:** ![Long\_Time\_Lurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/2bfe46/32.png) [@Long\_Time\_Lurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Long_Time_Lurker)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2007, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ifyouareplayingwerewolfdonotenter/391975/396 "2007-03-22T03:26:37Z")
[QUOTE=Captain Carrot] FTR, my name has 2 Cs and no K. _C_aptain _C_arrot. [/QUOTE] Aye Aye, Kaptain. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2007, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ifyouareplayingwerewolfdonotenter/391975/397 "2007-03-22T16:07:54Z")
**RT** I know you said you would rather play than mod the game a second time. If you haven’t had any volunteers for a new game mod, I would be happy to take on that role rather than playing this round. (of course if you do already have a new mod, I still want to play.) I always thought being the narrator was fun when I played IRL. ---
**Author:** ![Fern\_Forest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/71c47a/32.png) [@Fern\_Forest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fern_Forest)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2007, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ifyouareplayingwerewolfdonotenter/391975/398 "2007-03-25T03:37:59Z")
Go for it **NAF1138**. ---
**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2007, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ifyouareplayingwerewolfdonotenter/391975/399 "2007-03-26T14:41:30Z")
We gonna start soon? Who has the ball? ---
**Author:** ![Winston\_Smith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e95f7d/32.png) [@Winston\_Smith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winston_Smith)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2007, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ifyouareplayingwerewolfdonotenter/391975/400 "2007-03-26T14:55:40Z")
RT said he’d let it rest a while before starting another game, but I see no reason why somebody else can’t (clear it with the mods and) start a game of their own. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ifyouareplayingwerewolfdonotenter/391975.md?page=19) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ifyouareplayingwerewolfdonotenter/391975.md?page=21)