Ignorance, Bigotry, and Apathy May Kill a (Presumedly) Innocent Man

OK, so HBO may not be impartial here. How about Court TV?

Um, I’m not sure what to think about this case (although unlike Bricker and Shodan, I don’t have complete faith in the criminal justice system’s guilty verdicts), but not even I’m gonna take Court friggin’-TV as an “impartial source.” They strike me as somewhat, ah, sensationalistic. Perhaps I haven’t been watching it enough, but that’s certainly the vibe I get.

Am I the only one?

I don’t know about what they show on TV but their websites have been reliable.

Just wanted to drop in and let Diane know that, although I’ve followed this case for a couple of years now and have been outspoken on behalf of the WM3, this thread just now reminded me to make another donation.

So, you’ve reached several people. Thank you. I hope some small amount helps.

Y’all really should read what the Court TV site has.

Something definately wrong was going on there.

Diane, I signed the petition referred to on one of Strainger’s sites, but I must tell you that I am not convinced of the WM3’s innocence. To me, a lot depends on whether Misskelly’s statement was coerced or suggested. If it was not, then, were I serving on the jury, I probably would vote to convict him at least.

Bricker, the Court TV web site says this:

Is that not true?

What about this little tidbid that Diane posted earlier:

Would you still feel comfortable strapping Damien to the gurney and pulling the switch?

Blalron -

It would seem that this, too, has been over-stated in a minor but significant way.

According to the website, Byers did not have his teeth pulled out, but they fell out (or at least, he “lost” them).

As it was phrased, it sounds as if Byers deliberately got rid of his teeth. As the website puts it, the loss was involuntary. Cite.

Again, it appears that the evidence in the case has been exaggerated. Perhaps minor - but I think we see the distinction between legal testimony, given under oath and subject to cross-examination, and what some movie-maker thought would sell.

My grandmother wore a complete set of dentures for the last thirty years of her life, and she never killed anyone.

Regards,
Shodan

Shodan, you appear to have cited their searchpage?

I have to say that Shodan is severely hurting his credibility in this thread. After several posts saying that he knows enough about the case to make the very confident statements that he is making, he is still spouting some extremely important and blatant lies. For instance, he says that all three of the boys confessed. Were that true, it would certainly be extremely damaging. But it is a LIE. A lie that he refuses to even acknowledge. Just on that alone, I have no choice but to give Shodan no credibility on this subject. His further lies, such as saying that all three of the boys were wiccan despite numerous posts stating otherwise, only serve to make his ignorance of this case more obvious. I am amazed that Shodan can continue to call others liars simply because he disagrees, while he himself is guilty of such blatant lies. Even if his statements were made in ignorance, that only means he is lying when he says he knows enough to make even a casual comment on this case.

That the stepfather nearly confessed, that his teeth were lost when bite marks were found to not match the boys, that he produced a knife with the victim’s blood on it, that the only “confession” was that of a mentally disabled boy who had to be helped by the police to make up anything resembling a consistent story, that he only came forward because he was manipulated by thoughts of a reward, that much of the case rested on the urban legend of satanic human sacrifice being widespread, are all reasons to believe that the boys are innocent, but even so, I do not just assume they are innocent. What this information does do, is prove that they did not get a fair trial.

In the documentary, Paradise 2: Revelations, Byers is on tape giving two different reasons at two different times for his teeth being gone. At first he mentions that they were knocked out in a fight, then later he says that they all fell out due to a side-effect of a medication he was on.

The following quote is from the article, “Injustice in West Memphis” by Amanda H. Morgan. It appears on the WM3.org site but I was unable to link directly to it through their search function.

Another troublesome aspect of the case having to do with Byers is the knife he gave as a gift to the HBO film crew during the filming of the documentary. Dried blood was found on the knife and was tested, revealing the same blood type as Byers and also his son, Chris Byers, one of the murder victims.
Quoted below is an excerpt from the same article as above:

I urge anyone who is still convinced that justice was served in this case to at least take a look at the two documentaries and consider reading Mara Leveritt’s excellent book on the subject, Devil’s Knot. I’d be surprised if you came away from that not even slightly unchanged in your opinion.

Tegretol causes periodontitis? :dubious:

No, it’s not true. But it is an excellent example of telling only the facts you want heard.

It IS true that “for some reason” Judge Burnett chose to allow the confession. But listen to how that statement sounds. It suggests that for some UNKNOWN reason, Judge Burnett permitted this evidence. Some mysterious rationale, never spoken or even alluded to, resulted in the travesty of justice in which a confession of a juvenile was used as evidence without the legal requirement of a waiver of rights by the juvenile’s
parents.

An impartial reporter would have told you that Arkansas law provides that when a juvenile is tried as an adult, that requirement no longer applies. In other words, had Jessie been tried in the juvenile system his confession, lacking a parental waiver, would have been inadmissible. But tried as an adult, it’s permitted.

At the time Jessie was interrogated he was seventeen years old, and just thirty-seven days away from his eighteenth birthday. This was one of factors - not the only one - that the court relied upon to try him as an adult, and one of the factors the court relied upon to find his confession voluntary.

Now, of course, there is certainly an argument to still be made here: maybe the tactics the police used WERE overbearing; maybe the law about trying juveniles as adults is unwise. An honest reporter could hightlight those concerns without resorting to the shady tactic of saying, “…for some unknown reason…” The reason, you see now, is clear, well-known, and perfectly legal.

In case it’s not obvious by now, I have serious reservations about the way this case was handled. But I have outright disdain for the advocates who, in an effort to secure support for their view, resort to half-truths, phony implications, and outright lies.

The Court TV statement is, I hope you now see, in that category.

  • Rick

Doesn’t it matter that the decision to try him as an adult came after the police interview? Shouldn’t the policemen have received the written waiver from the parents before they interrogated him?
All I know from the courts is what I see in the media, but it seems to me that I read of evidence being thrown out of court for smaller infractions than that.

You must have missed my correction. It was here -

If it matters, I was discussing what I thought was implied both in the title of the OP (that “bigotry” was a primary motivator in convicting these three) and what was stated rather clearly in posts by Diogenes and others - that they were only arrested, charged, and convicted, because they wore black t-shirts, drank blood, or were otherwise weirdos. IOW, I did not claim that they were all Wiccans, I believed that was what was being claimed about the reasons for their conviction.

Sorry if I was unclear. Only one is or was apparently a Wiccan.

I thought I was being careful to qualify the extent to which I was prepared to go when I stated -

Nor have I called anyone a liar in this thread. Please retract that accusation. Since you are so concerned with false accusations of “liar”.

I do find it interesting that statements like “there is no physical evidence” or “they were only convicted because they wore black t-shirts” pass unchallenged by defenders of these three.

Regards,
Shodan

What IS the physical evidence, Shodan?

Fibers that are found in every household in town.

A knife that has not been proven to be the murder weapon nor has it been connected in anyway with any of the defendants.

And that’s it.

The fact that the kids wore black was an oft cited reason by the people of West Memphis that they were “weird” and “suspicious”

Damien’s drinking of blood is completely irrelevant to the case. It’s pecisely an example of saying he was weird so he must be a murderer.
The stepfather of one of the victims “lost” his teeth after bite marks were found on his stepson. He gave two explanations for this. The medication which he blamed in his second excuse does not cause teeth to fall out.

This same stepfather also gave a knife to HBO which matched the knife used in the murders and had human blood on it. The blood type matched one of the victims.

He virtually confessed in the second Paradise Lost movie. Watch it for yourself.

His wife also died under mysterious circumstances and Byers, in an apparant Freudian slip, refers to her “murder,” in the second Paradise Lost movie.

The only other “evidence” aginst the WM3 is a highly suspect confession from a mentally challenged teenager. Even on the taped part of the interview the police are clearly heard leading and “correcting” Jesse’s story as he tells it. The confession was immedately recanted. Neither of the other suspects have ever confessed.

There is enough reasonable doubt to drive a bus through. There is actually more evidence against Byers than there is against Echols. What would be the great harm in commuting this sentence so as to avoid the possibility of a travesty?

A confession which originally put him 40 miles away in another county at the time of the murder.