# Ignorance, hatred, stupidity ruin cultural awareness day at my son's school. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 30, 2015, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorance-hatred-stupidity-ruin-cultural-awareness-day-at-my-sons-school/711289 "2015-01-30T00:04:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2015, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorance-hatred-stupidity-ruin-cultural-awareness-day-at-my-sons-school/711289/181 "2015-02-02T15:20:59Z")
I roll up the sleeves of my dress shirts every day. Also, I eat a lot of bacon and drink a lot of Mountain Dew. > [@Richard\_Parker](#): > > I agree with the conclusion but not the premise. I think by virtually any measure–hate crimes, employment discrimination, slander on Fox News, law enforcement misconduct–Muslims are treated worse. Fair enough. The conclusion was the main thing. I certainly think Muslims should have their minute or two also. ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2015, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorance-hatred-stupidity-ruin-cultural-awareness-day-at-my-sons-school/711289/182 "2015-02-02T15:45:50Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > I roll up the sleeves of my dress shirts every day. Also, I eat a lot of bacon and drink a lot of Mountain Dew. Because you’re an Atheist? ---
**Author:** ![AnaMen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dfb087/32.png) [@AnaMen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnaMen)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2015, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorance-hatred-stupidity-ruin-cultural-awareness-day-at-my-sons-school/711289/183 "2015-02-02T15:54:41Z")
> [@Peremensoe](#): > > Why assume? Tell us about your own actual Atheist cultural practices, your stories, rituals, holidays. Do you have special foods or dress? I’m not an atheist, but yes, I do have all of those. I’d share, but I don’t need any threats today. ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2015, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorance-hatred-stupidity-ruin-cultural-awareness-day-at-my-sons-school/711289/184 "2015-02-02T16:27:33Z")
I’m not talking about atheists; I’m talking about the distinctive practices of Atheists. Apparently this is a marginalized, undertaught culture. As a proponent of multiculturalism, I’m as interested in learning about the Atheist culture as any other. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2015, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorance-hatred-stupidity-ruin-cultural-awareness-day-at-my-sons-school/711289/185 "2015-02-02T17:05:09Z")
> [@Peremensoe](#): > > Because you’re an Atheist? Do agnostics eat turkey bacon and drink Diet Mountain Dew? ---
**Author:** ![Raygun99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Raygun99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raygun99)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2015, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorance-hatred-stupidity-ruin-cultural-awareness-day-at-my-sons-school/711289/186 "2015-02-02T17:07:57Z")
Diet _caffeine-free_ Mt. Dew. We don’t like to talk about that lot. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2015, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorance-hatred-stupidity-ruin-cultural-awareness-day-at-my-sons-school/711289/187 "2015-02-02T17:13:24Z")
> [@Peremensoe](#): > > How would you describe the practices of Atheist culture? Well, for one, there’s our time-honored tradition of sleeping late on Sundays. ---
**Author:** ![AnaMen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dfb087/32.png) [@AnaMen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnaMen)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2015, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorance-hatred-stupidity-ruin-cultural-awareness-day-at-my-sons-school/711289/188 "2015-02-02T17:18:07Z")
> [@Peremensoe](#): > > I’m not talking about atheists; I’m talking about the distinctive practices of Atheists. Apparently this is a marginalized, undertaught culture. As a proponent of multiculturalism, I’m as interested in learning about the Atheist culture as any other. Well, there’s valuing science, reason, and rationality over superstition, dogma, and woo. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2015, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorance-hatred-stupidity-ruin-cultural-awareness-day-at-my-sons-school/711289/189 "2015-02-02T18:04:06Z")
> [@AnaMen](#): > > Well, there’s valuing science, reason, and rationality over superstition, dogma, and woo. And those are tenets and cultural practices of Atheism how, exactly? ---
**Author:** ![Lemmytheseal2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/82dd89/32.png) [@Lemmytheseal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemmytheseal2)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2015, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorance-hatred-stupidity-ruin-cultural-awareness-day-at-my-sons-school/711289/190 "2015-02-02T18:09:42Z")
> [@andros](#): > > And those are tenets and cultural practices of Atheism how, exactly? It’s the definition of atheism, though technically/linguistically the word only refers to deities. Others prefer other labels for that reason, but I don’t mind “atheism.” Rejecting deities while also rejecting, say, dowsing goes together. ---
**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2015, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorance-hatred-stupidity-ruin-cultural-awareness-day-at-my-sons-school/711289/191 "2015-02-02T18:11:33Z")
> [@Emiliana](#): > > Well, there go bras and childbirth. As well as the restrooms in any public place. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2015, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorance-hatred-stupidity-ruin-cultural-awareness-day-at-my-sons-school/711289/192 "2015-02-02T18:13:42Z")
> [@Lemmytheseal2](#): > > It’s the definition of atheism I’ve seen way too many SDMB threads devolve into arguments over the definition of atheism; is that going to happen to this one too? ---
**Author:** ![Flywheel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Flywheel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flywheel)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2015, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorance-hatred-stupidity-ruin-cultural-awareness-day-at-my-sons-school/711289/193 "2015-02-02T18:23:32Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Well, for one, there’s our time-honored tradition of sleeping late on Sundays. And [singing the blues](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmwAD7nHqaY). ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2015, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorance-hatred-stupidity-ruin-cultural-awareness-day-at-my-sons-school/711289/194 "2015-02-02T18:23:35Z")
> [@Lemmytheseal2](#): > > It’s the definition of atheism, though technically/linguistically the word only refers to deities. Others prefer other labels for that reason, but I don’t mind “atheism.” Rejecting deities while also rejecting, say, dowsing goes together. Surely some people reject deities but not dowsing, and vice-versa. As **AnaMen** is not herself an atheist, shall we conclude that she embraces “superstition, dogma, and woo”? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2015, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorance-hatred-stupidity-ruin-cultural-awareness-day-at-my-sons-school/711289/195 "2015-02-02T18:55:02Z")
> [@AnaMen](#): > > Well, there’s valuing science, reason, and rationality over superstition, dogma, and woo. Except that’s not really what atheists do. Atheists don’t believe in gods. That doesn’t place any limit on what else they might believe. I know plenty of people who don’t believe in gods, but do believe that 9/11 was an inside job, homeopathy works, or that telepathy is a real thing. Also, atheists do not, by nature, think religious people are stupid. That’s certainly a common enough belief among certain atheists, particularly the ones on this board, but it’s not a necessary condition of atheism. ---
**Author:** ![AnaMen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dfb087/32.png) [@AnaMen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnaMen)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2015, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorance-hatred-stupidity-ruin-cultural-awareness-day-at-my-sons-school/711289/196 "2015-02-02T19:02:12Z")
I’m not an atheist because I am agnostic, not because I believe in any made up stuff. Since the non-existence of any sort of god or gods is unprovable, atheism seems slightly irrational to me. Cultural practices need not be practiced by each individual to be considered valid as practices. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2015, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorance-hatred-stupidity-ruin-cultural-awareness-day-at-my-sons-school/711289/197 "2015-02-02T19:30:25Z")
> [@AnaMen](#): > > I’m not an atheist because I am agnostic, not because I believe in any made up stuff. > Since the non-existence of any sort of god or gods is unprovable, atheism seems slightly irrational to me. {…} > [@Thudlow\_Boink](#): > > I’ve seen way too many SDMB threads devolve into arguments over the definition of atheism; is that going to happen to this one too? And that’s why I’m gonna try real hard to pretend the post above yours doesn’t exist. :smack: :smack: :smack: I’m a gnostic apostist! CMC fnord! ---
**Author:** ![AnaMen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dfb087/32.png) [@AnaMen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnaMen)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2015, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorance-hatred-stupidity-ruin-cultural-awareness-day-at-my-sons-school/711289/198 "2015-02-02T19:56:09Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > And that’s why I’m gonna try real hard to pretend the post above yours doesn’t exist. :smack: :smack: :smack: > > I’m a gnostic apostist! > > CMC fnord! Whether or not I’m agnostic is not for you to decide. We agnostics exist with or without your approval. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2015, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorance-hatred-stupidity-ruin-cultural-awareness-day-at-my-sons-school/711289/199 "2015-02-02T20:14:36Z")
> [@Peremensoe](#): > > Because you’re an Atheist? Yup. The higher power I don’t believe in doesn’t command it. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2015, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorance-hatred-stupidity-ruin-cultural-awareness-day-at-my-sons-school/711289/200 "2015-02-02T20:31:54Z")
> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#): > > I’ve seen way too many SDMB threads devolve into arguments over the definition of atheism; is that going to happen to this one too? Beats me. I only showed up because of my Google Alert for (“ignorance” AND “hatred” AND “stupidity”). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorance-hatred-stupidity-ruin-cultural-awareness-day-at-my-sons-school/711289.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorance-hatred-stupidity-ruin-cultural-awareness-day-at-my-sons-school/711289.md?page=11)