# Ignorant election nightmare scenarios

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**Created:** [August 25, 2024, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-election-nightmare-scenarios/1006178 "2024-08-25T03:46:33Z")\
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**Post date:** [August 25, 2024, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-election-nightmare-scenarios/1006178/6 "2024-08-25T22:50:15Z")

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> [@sciurophobic](#):
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> No, the House only votes if no candidate has a majority of submitted electoral votes, and that number is reduced if somehow a state doesn’t certify it’s election so failure to certify = House decides is just wrong.

It seems there are mathematical ways for the tricksters to cause the number of votes to be tied. For instance, if the final total is D=271, R=267, then all they need is to negate 4 D electors to make a tie. If Hawaii (with 4 electors) went D but did not certify their votes, then it seems like that would mean the net result is D=267 (271-4). Now the electors are tied and it would go to the House to decide.

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