# Ignorant racist motherfuckers! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 13, 2002, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517 "2002-12-13T15:47:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![ratty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ccd318/32.png) [@ratty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ratty)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517/61 "2002-12-13T18:26:21Z")
Whoa. There is some scary shit going down in that original thread. I’m kind of shocked (although maybe I should know better) by the sentiments expressed there. **Tarpal** throws away applications with ‘black-sounding’ names, and **The Rochester** rips off morning radio to make, uh…you know, I can’t think of a creative euphemism, so I’m just gonna say it- trolling posts. Before this thread disintegrates into the inevitable trainwreck and gets justly locked, I’d just like to say I’m pretty shocked over what I can find here on the SDMB. Now I know that assholery knows no boundaries, but I come to this place because the asshole ratio is generally pretty low, and I know I can count on finding people who are informed, well-spoken, and above the kind of ignorant nonsense we all have to deal with out in the real world. I’m new here, and I certainly have no more say than anyone else on what should go on at this board, but it personally offends me that some people come and take a big steaming dump all over the board. I love this place, and anyone who insists on shitting this close to the house is obviously a moron totally unworthy of the name “doper”. It’s one thing to express an unpopular or unusual opinion; it’s quite another to make blatantly racist comments and expect everyone to laugh heartily at your wit. And **Tarpal** , shame on you. Shame! I see ignorant racist fucks like you all the time, and I will never, **never** get over the initial shock of such breath-taking stupidity. If you worked for me, I would fire you, and make sure everyone in the industry knew how unbeliavably ignorant you are. On a side note, I agree with **jjimm** , and am also interested in ‘new’ or ‘unusual’ names. I wish I had one, grade-school teasing and random assholery notwithstanding. Alas, my parents jumped on the bandwagon of ‘trendy’ names, and I’ve spent my life being identified by my last initial due to the 600 other people who share my name. I want to know more about ‘exotic’ names, made-up or otherwise. Maybe some serious and intelligent posters can turn this thread around and have an informative discussion. I hope so. My favorite names are as follows: Akira Anne Angharad Atreyu Adrian Chaya Evangeline Gabriel Ines Iarwain James Jhonen Ngwenya Roman Silence Siobhan Wanna guess which race I am? Or maybe I’m a houseplant. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517/62 "2002-12-13T18:29:48Z")
> [@](#): > > Gobear, how could you not be referring to me uniquely if I’m the person who wrote it? Again, I was remarking on the comment, not the person who made it. If you can’t figure out the difference, that’s your problem, not mine. > [@](#): > > Regarding the ‘two Americas’ referrence, have you never heard it before? Obviously there are more than two Americas; it’s used as a way of making a point Then you should make your points more clearly. > [@](#): > > What would you say if you heard someone start a sentence with, “There are two kinds of people in this world…”? I would surmise that the maker of such a comment has little experience of the world at large and sees life in an exceptionally simpleminded manner. Dualism as a heuristic tool is fine for making flow charts and truth tables but is utterly useless in exploring human interactions, an area which lends itself more to chaos theory, IMO. ---
**Author:** ![Feynn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecb155/32.png) [@Feynn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Feynn)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517/63 "2002-12-13T18:30:24Z")
Perhaps Tarpal would find the names [Paul and Karla](http://www.crimelibrary.com/serials/bernardo/bernmain.htm) mainstream enough for him. I work in a field where a large number of our employees are foreign and have what most of us would consider to be unusual and often difficult to pronounce names. It would be a pity if our HR department based their hiring policies based on people’s names as a great many intelligent, responsible and hard working people would then be working elsewhere. ---
**Author:** ![Fretful\_Porpentine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fretful_porpentine/32/2873_2.png) [@Fretful\_Porpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fretful_Porpentine)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517/64 "2002-12-13T18:40:00Z")
> [@](#): > > The article referenced a couple posts up mentioned that in general, the lower the education level of the mother, the more likely she was to just “make up” some silly name for her child. So it follows then that most people with these bogus wanna-be “african” names grew up in something of an ignorant environment. > > I am the human resources manager for a large company. My job is to find and hire the best-educated, best-qualified people who have a team-player attitude and can get along with others. My experience has been that, in general, when I see a name like Queshonda or Labwiesha, I will probably be dealing with a lower-class type, one who quite often has an “attitude”. Um, am I the only one who thinks **tarpal’s** comments were _classist_ rather than racist per se? He hasn’t said that he doesn’t want to hire black people in general, but that he doesn’t want to hire “a lower-class type” from “an ignorant environment.” Not that this makes his attitude or hiring practices defensible, of course, but there’s something rather more complex than “I don’t like black people” going on here. (And to be fair, he is correct that names are often class markers, although this is not a race-linked trait; educated white professionals are more likely to name their child Olivia than, say, Maddysyn. It goes without saying, of course, that Maddysyn’s social background has absolutely no bearing on whether she is likely to perform well on the job, and I do find **tarpal’s** comments deeply ignorant and prejudiced in that respect.) ---
**Author:** ![Raymond\_Luxury\_Yacht](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raymond_luxury_yacht/32/4099_2.png) [@Raymond\_Luxury\_Yacht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raymond_Luxury_Yacht)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517/65 "2002-12-13T18:40:22Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by gobear \* > \*\* If you can’t figure out the difference, that’s your problem, not mine. > > Then you should make your points more clearly. > \*\* I’m sorry. I didn’t know that there were two sets of rules here. If you write something that I don’t understand that’s my problem, but if I write something that you don’t follow, then it’s also my problem? WTF?! BTW you’re right! I can figure out that someone has little experience with the world at large by their use of a popular phrase. ---
**Author:** ![CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crankyasanoldman/32/11670_2.png) [@CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrankyAsAnOldMan)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517/66 "2002-12-13T18:40:50Z")
TheRochester, So only leftists care about racial insensitivity? Whuh? ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517/67 "2002-12-13T18:45:34Z")
> [@](#): > > BTW you’re right! I can figure out that someone has little experience with the world at large by their use of a popular phrase. Any one who thinks that a sentence that starts with “There are two kinds of people” contains a valid observation about human behavior has, IMO, _ipso facto_ demonstrated that he or she know little about the world and the people in it. YMMV. ---
**Author:** ![l1I235](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@l1I235](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/l1I235)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517/68 "2002-12-13T18:51:25Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Road Rash \* > \*\*Future moms, try to keep your kids names down to two syllables. \*\* Yes, I have the feeling that this is a joke. I’ll let my parents know that it’s time to change my name; it’s too ghetto. (even though I was named after a British Queen) :rolleyes: Anyway, why does every care what someone names their kids? I knw I don’t. I like my name, but if someone wants different name, big deal. I think Keifer (as in Keifer Sutherland) is a an odd name. ---
**Author:** ![l1I235](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@l1I235](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/l1I235)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517/69 "2002-12-13T18:53:36Z")
D’oh! That shoud be anyone, not Every. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517/70 "2002-12-13T18:59:11Z")
> [@](#): > > (even though I was named after a British Queen) Victoria, Alexandra, Elizabeth, and Boadicea are too ghetto? ---
**Author:** ![ratty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ccd318/32.png) [@ratty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ratty)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517/71 "2002-12-13T19:04:44Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by gobear \* > \*\*Victoria, Alexandra, Elizabeth, and Boadicea are too ghetto? \*\* Well, you know Elizabeth I was sportin’ a weave. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Raymond\_Luxury\_Yacht](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raymond_luxury_yacht/32/4099_2.png) [@Raymond\_Luxury\_Yacht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raymond_Luxury_Yacht)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517/72 "2002-12-13T19:05:40Z")
**Gobear** , the entire point is that I used “two Americas” to break an argument down in its simplest form, much the way that “two kinds of people” is used. I’m not using it as if it is something that I truly believe. A point of referrence from which to start. Type in “two Americas” into a search engine and you may understand what I am saying. The context which I use it in is a referrence to the judicial system and the disproportionate numbers of people of color (blacks and hispanics) who are incarcerated. That is an entirely different discussion. This thread is here for the idiots such as **Tarpal** who are spewing vile, racist dogma. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517/73 "2002-12-13T19:17:25Z")
> [@](#): > > The context which I use it in is a referrence to the judicial system and the disproportionate numbers of people of color (blacks and hispanics) who are incarcerated. That is an entirely different discussion. As you say, that is a topic for another thread. By all means, let’s concentrate on flaming **Tarpal** , who has richly merited it. ---
**Author:** ![DeadlyAccurate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac91a4/32.png) [@DeadlyAccurate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeadlyAccurate)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517/74 "2002-12-13T19:17:33Z")
> [@](#): > > Do the research and give your kids real African names. IMO, just calling your kid Shaniqua is lazy and it shows no imagination. Go to the library and give your kid a name that comes from Swahili, Hausa, Xhosa, Sotho, Zulu, Wolof, or Yoruba, just to name a few languages, so that she or he can point to a real ethnic heritage with pride. I disagree with this point. I would be just as likely to use a fantasy name generator to make up my kid’s name as a baby name book. What about Lelial Bylyra Breena Reynara (a character in my 2nd book) Kelan All made up using the Everchanging Book of Names 3.0. I can see naming my kid any of these or others. ---
**Author:** ![DeadlyAccurate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac91a4/32.png) [@DeadlyAccurate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeadlyAccurate)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517/75 "2002-12-13T19:18:55Z")
Oh, and I’m white, FWIW. ---
**Author:** ![UrbanChic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9dc877/32.png) [@UrbanChic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UrbanChic)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517/76 "2002-12-13T19:20:13Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by gobear \* > **Black people** Do the research and give your kids real African names. IMO, just calling your kid Shaniqua is lazy and it shows no imagination. Go to the library and give your kid a name that comes from Swahili, Hausa, Xhosa, Sotho, Zulu, Wolof, or Yoruba, just to name a few languages, so that she or he can point to a real ethnic heritage with pride. \*\* Fuck you, gobear. My kids’ are Nathan, Aaron and, the soon to be, Noah. If I wanted to make up a name for my boys, I don’t see what business it is of yours or any other person, for that matter. It can be argued that making up a name, Shaniqua or otherwise, is creative, not lazy. _You_ should get over _yourself_. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517/77 "2002-12-13T19:22:10Z")
Wel, I’m not a parent, so you can dismiss my comments if you like. It just seems to me that a parent would want to give a child a name that is (1) easy to spell and pronounce, (2) is distinctive without seeming odd, and (3) has some familial, religious, or cultural significance. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517/78 "2002-12-13T19:31:40Z")
> [@](#): > > Fuck you, gobear. Hi, \*\*Juanita Tech, big hug! Nathan, AAron, and Noah, are not made up names, so I don’t get your ire. You can name ytour kids after numbers, colors, Star Trek characters. You could, if you wish, give your kid a name with no vowels, XGBNL, for instance. You don’t have to live with it; your kid does. In any case, you might note that I said it was my opinion, not a commandment. You can disagree, but I don’t see the need to act as if I had launched a personal insult against you. ---
**Author:** ![UrbanChic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9dc877/32.png) [@UrbanChic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UrbanChic)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517/79 "2002-12-13T19:32:03Z")
I guess you’d know a “real” African tribal name when you heard it, huh, gobear? ---
**Author:** ![UrbanChic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9dc877/32.png) [@UrbanChic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UrbanChic)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517/80 "2002-12-13T19:34:17Z")
gobear, I’ve lived with the whole ‘oh, except you, Juanita’ thing all my life. It still stings when people make snide comments about ‘those’ black people but exclude me just because I was raised differently. Until I open my mouth, I’m one of ‘them’ so it still pisses me off. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517.md?page=5)