# Ignorant racist motherfuckers! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 13, 2002, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517 "2002-12-13T15:47:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![UrbanChic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9dc877/32.png) [@UrbanChic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UrbanChic)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517/101 "2002-12-13T20:53:15Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by MrMyth \* > **I have a traditionally Irish first name. My oldest brother’s is traditionally French. The brother under him is traditionally Polish. My youngest brother is named after a type of precious metal.** Oh, this can be fun! Let’s see…my guesses are Seamus, Pierre, Stanislaw and Gallium. I’m right, aren’t I? I know I am. ---
**Author:** ![UrbanChic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9dc877/32.png) [@UrbanChic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UrbanChic)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517/102 "2002-12-13T20:57:34Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by gobear \* > \*\*I apologize for making you angry, **Juanita Tech**. I’m sorry. \*\* gobear, although I appreciate it, I don’t want your apology. Really, and I’m not being a smart-ass, either. You can buy me [these](http://www.jcrew.com/catalog/product.jhtml?id=prod56797141), though. They’re even on sale… ---
**Author:** ![lothos2002](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/df788c/32.png) [@lothos2002](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lothos2002)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517/103 "2002-12-13T21:14:10Z")
I believe we should return to the issue at hand, so I will ask it outright: \*\*Tarpal[b/] How many people from a race different from white have you hired? Do you think white people are more suited for a job at your company than black people because of their background and that, therefore, their personalities will have been better shaped for the job? ---
**Author:** ![Fretful\_Porpentine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fretful_porpentine/32/2873_2.png) [@Fretful\_Porpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fretful_Porpentine)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517/104 "2002-12-13T21:14:23Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by ptr2void \* > \*\*You’re being far too kind, FP. > I think instead what we’re seeing is the very OBVIOUS use of “code words”. One brief look at **tarpal** ’s posting [history](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/search.php?s=&action=showresults&searchid=296169) reveals a definite pattern. \*\* Upon examining his posting history, I guess you’re right. ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517/105 "2002-12-13T21:19:02Z")
> [@](#): > > Black peopleDo the research and give your kids real African names. IMO, just calling your kid Shaniqua is lazy and it shows no imagination. I know **JuanitaTech** covered this with you already, **gobear** , but I just wanna say something. Believe or not, most times people choose names not because of where they come from, but because they simply like that name. It’s clear you think “Shaniqua” is a dumb name, but many people apparently think it’s cool. I don’t think it’s a bad name myself. To me, it’s no more “ugly” than Allison, Jamie, or Heather as far as names go. Why do you think choosing a name like “Shaniqua” is any more lazy than choosing a name like those mainstreamed names I listed above? Do you really think the average parent does major research when they’re picking out names? No. Your use of “lazy” is very irksome here. I have a sister-in-law named Keisha. Keisha is a perfectly wonderful name to me. It’s not ghetto (in fact, my sil comes from a well-to-do family) and it’s not ugly. It’s a name like any other. Were her parents lazy for choosing Keisha over Kelly or Karen? Why or why not? Did anyone read the article I linked to on the original thread, showing that resumes with “black” names are routinely put in the trash even when they are 100% identical to resumes with “white” names? This is the kind of thing that bugs the shit out of me. According to the article, the names didn’t even have to be “made up”. Names like “Ebony”, “Aisha” (a real African name, btw), and “Tyrone” were negatively discriminated against. Names like Yolanda, Tonya, Lawanda, Leticia, Cedric, and Damon are common in the black community. These aren’t goofy “made-up” names by any stretch of the imagination, and it’s scary that mean people like **tarpal** would attribute negative qualities to people with these names just because they aren’t as common (or white-sounding) as Jason, Robert, or Britney. One thing can be said: It takes MAJOR balls admitting that you’re a racist on a GQ board…and being completely unapologetic about it! ---
**Author:** ![Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duck_Duck_Goose)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517/106 "2002-12-13T21:30:47Z")
> [@](#): > > _Fretful P:_ > Um, am I the only one who thinks tarpal’s comments were classist rather than racist per se? He hasn’t said that he doesn’t want to hire black people in general, but that he doesn’t want to hire “a lower-class type” from “an ignorant environment.” Naw, 'cause Tarpal said: > [@](#): > > \*\*So it follows then that most people with these bogus wanna-be “african” names grew up in something of an ignorant environment. \*\*No messing about with “code words”–he’s flat-out talking about Blacks and “African names”. ---
**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517/107 "2002-12-13T21:33:58Z")
> [@](#): > > One thing can be said: It takes MAJOR balls admitting that you’re a racist on a GQ board…and being completely unapologetic about it! He’s taking his cue from Lott. ---
**Author:** ![MONTY2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/53a042/32.png) [@MONTY2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MONTY2)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517/108 "2002-12-13T21:37:01Z")
Slight hijack: > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by DeadlyAccurate \* > \*\*I seriously considered the name Tanis (from the Dragonlance chronicles) as a boy’s name if I ever had a kid. \*\* My cousin named her daughter Kitiara and I’ve always wanted to name a girl Chrysania. ---
**Author:** ![apotheosis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba8739/32.png) [@apotheosis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/apotheosis)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517/109 "2002-12-13T21:41:22Z")
I stupidly suggested “Ophelia” when the SO and I were kicking around names for our soon-to-arrive young’un. I just thought it was a pretty, poetic, classical-sounding name. What never occurred to me, but the SO was quick to point out, was how much torture the kid would suffer in school as a result of a name like “oh-feel-ya”. Guess my mind just doesn’t work that way. ---
**Author:** ![SpoilerVirgin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@SpoilerVirgin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpoilerVirgin)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517/110 "2002-12-13T21:46:47Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by gobear \* > If black parents want to give their kids African-sounding names, like Shaniqua, instead of checking out actual names from African cultures, I think that’s lazy You are still not getting it. Black parents do not give their children unusual names because they are **African** sounding. They give their children names that are **African-American** sounding. Do you not understand that there is an enormous cultural gap between a person who is born in say, Nigeria, and therefore has a Nigerian name, and a person whose great-great grandparents were brought to the U.S. as slaves, and who therefore has a name reflecting African-American culture, much of which is based on slave tradition, Southern tradition, Christian tradition, Muslim tradition, and the tradition of being creative and different from white America? Do you not see the implication of denying the significance of the African-American experience _in America_, or the uniqueness of African-American culture? African-American is **not** equal to African. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517/111 "2002-12-13T21:51:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by gobear \* > \*\*Victoria, Alexandra, Elizabeth, and Boadicea are too ghetto? \*\* Hmmm…what about Caroline, Adelaide, Matilda, Adelicia, Eleanor, Berengaria, Isabella, Marguerite, Philippa, Joanna, Catherine, Margaret, and Henrietta Maria? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![dorkusmalorkusmafia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dorkusmalorkusmafia/32/7266_2.png) [@dorkusmalorkusmafia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dorkusmalorkusmafia)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517/112 "2002-12-13T21:53:37Z")
JuanitaTech said in response to MrMyth > [@](#): > > Let’s see…my guesses are Seamus, Pierre, Stanislaw and Gallium. Damn girl! You guessed 3 of the 4 I was going to. Seamus, Pierre, Stanislaw, and Silver would have been my guesses. I guessed Silver because I knew a boy named Silver in grade school. ---
**Author:** ![Meatros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Meatros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meatros)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517/113 "2002-12-13T21:57:47Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by MONTY2 \* > \*\*Slight hijack: > > My cousin named her daughter Kitiara and I’ve always wanted to name a girl Chrysania. \*\* Both of you, what’s wrong with Raistlin? Or Flint, Tasslehoff, or even Fizzban? I think you are comitting specism! Even though Raistlin was a human… ---
**Author:** ![Kal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de053/32.png) [@Kal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kal)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517/114 "2002-12-13T22:04:55Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Libertarian \* > \*\*Frankly, I wish the old Indian names would make a comeback. There’s an awful lot of character in a name like Crazy Horse. \*\* Well you may be pleased to know that, if we ever have children, Washte and I decided that we would give any daughters an Indian name and sons a Romani name. Now I can’t promise we’ll use a name like Crazy Horse, but I’m gonna start lobbying for ‘Mildly Potty Libertarian’. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517/115 "2002-12-13T22:05:39Z")
I like the names Ophelia, Victoria, Anastasia, Olga, Tatiana, Maria, Larissa, Rose, Rachel, Ramona and Guinevere. I like Russian names. A lot of Russian names have numerous pet names then-it’s pretty much custom. So Tatiana becomes Tasha, Tanya, Tatia, Tata, Tata, Tatushka, Tatinka. Or Anastasia=Nastia, Nashka, Nastenka, Natasha, Naska, Ana, Anushka, Stasia Anna=Anya, Anushka, Anala Maria becomes Masha, or Mashka. Nicholas would be Nickolasha. Mikhail is Misha. Alexander-Sandro, Sasha. BTW, I knew two people named Damon. My best friend in high school-her dad was named Damon, and so was her baby brother. And they were white as snow. I also worked with a black guy by the name of Johnny. A rose by any other name…etc… (says Kathleen Mary Brenda) ---
**Author:** ![MrMyth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e19b73/32.png) [@MrMyth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrMyth)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517/116 "2002-12-13T22:07:28Z")
I’ll only give my younger brother’s, since **dorkusmalorkusmafia** was so close. Sterling. The rest, **JuanitaTech** are much simply than you think. ---
**Author:** ![MrMyth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e19b73/32.png) [@MrMyth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrMyth)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517/117 "2002-12-13T22:08:45Z")
Oh well. First bunch of errors, all in the same post… should be **dorkusmalorkusmafia** and simpler… ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517/118 "2002-12-13T22:16:08Z")
> [@](#): > > Do you not understand that there is an enormous cultural gap between a person who is born in say, Nigeria, and therefore has a Nigerian name, and a person whose great-great grandparents were brought to the U.S. as slaves. I do understand that; it’s a point I have made on this board many times before. But when you say that "You are still not getting it. Black parents do not give their children unusual names because they are African sounding. They give their children names that are African-American sounding, " you make an excellent point that dsoes not necessarily apply to all African Americans. I have had one black woman tell me that she named her child LaChandra because “it came from the motherland.” Granted, it’s only anecdotal evidence which isn’t worth much, but there is at least one exception to your thesis. ---
**Author:** ![UrbanChic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9dc877/32.png) [@UrbanChic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UrbanChic)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517/119 "2002-12-13T22:21:27Z")
Are you…? No, you can’t be… But your first name’s a traditional Irish name… Yes, you must be… You’re Shannon Sharpe, aren’t you? ---
**Author:** ![MrMyth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e19b73/32.png) [@MrMyth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrMyth)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517/120 "2002-12-13T22:23:08Z")
The basic point I’m trying to make, gobear, is no matter how dumb you think that girl is, you shouldn’t show it. Go ahead and fight ignorance - lord knows she might need it. But is every black person like this girl? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517.md?page=7)