# Ignorant racist motherfuckers! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 13, 2002, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517 "2002-12-13T15:47:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![elelle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@elelle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elelle)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2002, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517/141 "2002-12-14T02:36:58Z")
**A Rose is a Rose Is a Rose…** What the hell is the Fuss??? Ya don’t have a say in your name until you’re old enough to care, Sometimes you get saddled with too many zy’s , or witz’s, or skys, shas, or MacWhatever… fools do judge on that account and it’s a fool that bases his judgement on a mere name. Picture this: a : a young woman has a child, and in all wishes for that child’s future, gives them a unique name, that rolls so beautifully across the tongue, something that is _theirs, truly_. Perhaps she misjudges and doesn’t see a rather cruel world that will judge her child on the misfit of appropriate nomenclature . It was a beautiful name, for her child, at that time. Why does any society have the right to deem the name of a person “appropriate”? And what would make anyone laugh at another’s naming of their child? It’s petty at the core, and ignorant, and adolescent schoolyard mean. No one should have the pettiness to even think it, much less utilize it in business decisions, right? If you think it’s good tender **Tarpal** , then you ought to re-examine your thought. It’ll save you much trouble in the long run. In the short run, I never have understood why some people poke fun at names like Akeysha or La Queesha: what difference does it make that people name their children as they wish??? Whaddya want, a nice state-supported list of acceptable names? I have a nice Anglo feminine male common derivitive name, but it’s always been mispronounced. Well, too bad for that ignorance! I don’t think any LaKeisha dealt with it any less, just ignorant people who didn’t care to try. And that’s just it… people need to be educated enough to TRY. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2002, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517/142 "2002-12-14T03:00:36Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by **gobear** \* > I say the hell with it, let’s just give kids binary codes and be done with it. Say, you’ve talking to my dad lately? Well people, count me as there’s-a-limit-to-everything. A couple of years ago I heard of a couple in Cuba tried to name their girl “Clitoris”. Their request was denied, they had to gave her a name with a less, er, sexual connotation. If anyone asks me for a cite I’ll bite him. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![SCSimmons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e495f1/32.png) [@SCSimmons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCSimmons)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2002, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517/143 "2002-12-14T03:31:10Z")
Cite? (Hey, can’t blame me for trying. 😃 ) ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2002, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517/144 "2002-12-14T06:26:02Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by DeadlyAccurate \* > \*\* Seriously, that thread is positively appalling, especially tarpal’s comments about throwing out applications from people with “black” names. Who cares what someone names their kid? I seriously considered the name Tanis (from the Dragonlance chronicles) as a boy’s name if I ever had a kid. Tanis is no better than Terrell (for those who live in the DFW metroplex, the emphasis is on the second syllable, not the first like the city). > \*\* No kidding. I happen to like unique names given to people both black and white, Delaney(w) and Peerless(b) being my favorite celeb names of the moment. If what I name my story characters (I like nouns and adj. Reed, Arden, Price & Page in addition to things like Jude, and Zane…) is any indication, my kids could end up with interesting names too. I seriously doubt a bunch of black people would make fun of their names on a message board though :rolleyes: :mad: ---
**Author:** ![kimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f0a364/32.png) [@kimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kimera)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2002, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517/145 "2002-12-14T06:41:27Z")
My name is Ava, and being 21, I have never met another person the same age of mine or older who shared my name with me. However, I have found that a lot more little girls are being named “Ava” and it is disturbing. I like unique names. I have a bad memory yet, I always remember a person’s name if it is very unique. On a side note, my fiance’s parents are asian and were very new to the united states when they had his older sister. Not knowing how to spell very well, they gave her the name “Crystinue” which is pronounced “Christine”. She’s rather fond of it now, as of course, she’s never met another Crystinue. ---
**Author:** ![Uzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/91b2a8/32.png) [@Uzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uzi)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2002, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517/146 "2002-12-14T07:12:17Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by SpoilerVirgin \* > \*\*I was named after a grandmother … I now use my middle name in many situations where I’m not already known by my first name (including the Internet). \*\* Your grandmother’s name was ‘SpoilerVirgin’? ---
**Author:** ![Meatros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Meatros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meatros)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2002, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517/147 "2002-12-14T12:09:05Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Libertarian \* > \*\*Binary? It’s not all black and white, you know. There’s red and yellow, too. \*\* GOD, why do I have to admit this???Fine, okay…whatever… **Libertarian** you forgot blue: [http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a980724.html](http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a980724.html) Now, I know that such people exist for other reason’s than the Master said so. I’m distantly related to them. **Very** distantly related to them. I remember seeing them when I was very young and my father was trying to show me his old “kentucky” roots. He whipped out a photo album and I at first thought that the pictures were bad…Then I noticed all the other colors came out right…My dad said to me, “don’t ever inbreed son…” and left it at that. ---
**Author:** ![Meatros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Meatros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meatros)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2002, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517/148 "2002-12-14T12:11:23Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by gobear \* > \*\ ***Meatros** is right. I’m not talking about all black people. If I were, I would say “all”. > Exactly, thank you. > > Frankly, I don’t want to focus on long, unwieldy African-American names; that’s only one example of a phenomenon. Dweezil and Moon Unit are equally ridiculous names to give your children. Or naming girls with two last names and no first name–Harrison Kensington. \*\* Man, you **totally** forgot all of the George Formans. Now _that_ is lazy. Doesn’t he have, like, 8 kids or something? ---
**Author:** ![Road\_Rash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a8b319/32.png) [@Road\_Rash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Road_Rash)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2002, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517/149 "2002-12-14T13:11:57Z")
I admit that I joked about funny African-American names in the GQ thread. I meant no harm. Having it affect job applications may be true, but to admit doing it, under no or some duress, and having no apparent conscience about it is just fucked up, and illegal. Many asian names sound like slang for “doing it” or the “captain” involved. A client I handled at work was named Long Duong (pronounced long dong). When I first had to mention his name to our front desk clerk, I hesitated. This was work, and she was devoutly christian. Instead of saying it, I showed her the paper with his name on it. I have seen her laugh longer, but never louder than when she saw that paper. Of all the replies, I have only seen one that makes any reference to probably the most important consideration in naming a child. Granted, when a thread gets over 2 pages long I go into skim reading mode, but what about THE CHILD? Naming a boy “Sue,” as in the Johnny Cash song, may sound sooo neat to the parents, but it will make life difficult for the child. I am not saying not to name your kid a unique name, but do consider that the kid may have to trade blows over it. Personally, I like two syllable names that are easy on the tongue. Darnell? I was suprised to see that as a “black name.” I like it. Manuel? Maybe a little common, but within parameters. Larhonda? This is the name of my main partner at work. Although I discourage prefixes and suffixes, still OK. Long Dong? You have a potential career in Asian Porn. ---
**Author:** ![Meatros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Meatros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meatros)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2002, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517/150 "2002-12-14T13:27:38Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Road Rash \* > \*\*Darnell? I was suprised to see that as a “black name.” I like it. > \*\* I think you mean well, but this could get you into trouble if you don’t clarify it. For example: Do you normally not like “black names”? Why are you surprised that it is a “black name”? ---
**Author:** ![Road\_Rash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a8b319/32.png) [@Road\_Rash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Road_Rash)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2002, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517/151 "2002-12-14T13:33:47Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Meatros \* > \*\*I think you mean well, but this could get you into trouble if you don’t clarify it. For example: Do you normally not like “black names”? Why are you surprised that it is a “black name”? \*\* It was an example in an earlier post. I grew up one block from “Darnell” street, so even if a kid of any race was named that in my school, it would not have been seen as unusual. ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2002, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517/152 "2002-12-14T13:55:16Z")
> [@](#): > > I stupidly suggested “Ophelia” when the SO and I were kicking around names for our soon-to-arrive young’un. I just thought it was a pretty, poetic, classical-sounding name. > > What never occurred to me, but the SO was quick to point out, was how much torture the kid would suffer in school as a result of a name like “oh-feel-ya”. My parents’ neighbours named their daughter “Aurélie”, which is just fine if you are French, but, um, doesn’t quite work in English. (Dad’s anglo, mom is Polish francophone.) ---
**Author:** ![tarpal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@tarpal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tarpal)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2002, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517/153 "2002-12-14T14:26:03Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by jehovah68 \* > \*\*Where is **Tarpal**? Show yourself, lurker! \*\* I am here, what can I do for you? p.s. I find this thread hilarious! ---
**Author:** ![Astroboy14](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/df705f/32.png) [@Astroboy14](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astroboy14)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2002, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517/154 "2002-12-14T14:48:52Z")
You know what’s funny? Living in Korea, I get a whole new perspective on my own predjudices (yes, I have some, and I try to be very aware of that fact!). Regarding names, I have noticed that Korean names are, for me, either very easy to remember OR very hard to remember. The difference? The easy names to remember are names I have heard before, AND had reason to memorize. The hard ones are names I have never heard before. As an example, let’s take a class role-taking: First day of class (remember, I know no one in this classroom of about 30 students):[sup]\*[/sup] **Jin-oo**? (a hand is raised… I have a friend who has a son named Jin-oo… instantly memorized…) **Mi-Kyoung**? (a hand is raised… **Astrogirl** ’s friend is named Mi-Kyoung… memorized…) **Kun-Young**? (a hand is raised… Hmmm, never heard that name before… NOT memorized…) **So-Ra**? (a hand is raised… HEY, She’s HOT!) etc… Day two, taking role: **Jin-oo**? (there he is!) **Mi-Kyoung**? (there she is!) **Kun-Young**? (a hand is raised… there he is!) **So-Ra**? (a hand is raised… HEY, She’s the hot one! Oh, yeah!) etc… Day three, taking role: **Jin-oo**? (there he is!) **Mi-Kyoung**? (there she is!) **Kun-Young**? (err… ah! There he is!) **So-Ra**? (there she is! Man! She’s hot!) etc… Day four, taking role: **Jin-oo**? (there he is!) **Mi-Kyoung**? (there she is!) **Kun-Young**? (errr… uhhh…) **Kun-Young**? (a hand is raised, he was talking with his friend… AH! There he is!) **So-Ra**? (there she is! Wow! Still hot!) etc… This goes on all semester, with the names I have heard before memorized quickly, and the new names memorized more slowly (depending on characteristics such as relative hotness, number of lip-rings, willingness to talk to me/answer questions in class, other assorted distinguishing marks/traits). Basically, what it boils down to is that the names of my students are either _names_ or a mouthfull of syllables that may or may not gain an emotional meaning to me (and therefore be memorized) eventually… (there ARE exceptions, of course! A Moon-yoo or Suk-me is memorized fairly quickly, so that I can remember to keep a straight face… ;)). This is interesting to me… [sup]\*Obviously, VASTLY simplified![/sup] ---
**Author:** ![Meatros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Meatros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meatros)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2002, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517/155 "2002-12-14T14:55:58Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by tarpal \* > \*\*I am here, what can I do for you? > > p.s. I find this thread hilarious! \*\* You can: 1. Try to quit being an elitist. 2. Develope some tact. 3. Learn to appreciate other people’s cultures. 4. Not be an ass. Or you can: 1. Continue and find yourself very alone in all of your opinions. 2. Realize that hey, maybe your an oddball here. 3. Join a hate group, because, it can’t be that far off, judging by your posts. ---
**Author:** ![Siege](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dbc845/32.png) [@Siege](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siege)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2002, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517/156 "2002-12-14T15:02:22Z")
You can agree not to deny a skilled person a job because of her name. Whether the “C” in “CJ” stands for “Christina” or “C’hadija” makes no difference as to how well I can do my job. That you would think it does tells me you’re someone I wouldn’t want to work for or with. CJ ---
**Author:** ![lothos2002](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/df788c/32.png) [@lothos2002](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lothos2002)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2002, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517/157 "2002-12-14T16:04:12Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by tarpal \* > **I am here, what can I do for you?** you could answer my questions. ---
**Author:** ![Raymond\_Luxury\_Yacht](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raymond_luxury_yacht/32/4099_2.png) [@Raymond\_Luxury\_Yacht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raymond_Luxury_Yacht)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2002, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517/158 "2002-12-14T16:12:03Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by tarpal \* > \*\*I am here, what can I do for you? > > p.s. I find this thread hilarious! \*\* It’s wonderful that you get such a thrill out of being so much of a better person than us bleeding heart types here. That whole narrow mindedness thing seems to have worked out pretty well for you; it must be so much easier to make decisions, to not have to concern yourself with silly laws and having to wiegh the importance of a multitude of factors when making a decision. So I say, “Huzzah!” Keep up the good work, we simply can’t have this whole diversity thing take hold. ---
**Author:** ![tarpal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@tarpal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tarpal)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2002, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517/159 "2002-12-14T17:05:23Z")
…yawn ---
**Author:** ![MrMyth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e19b73/32.png) [@MrMyth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrMyth)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2002, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517/160 "2002-12-14T17:17:13Z")
What exactly does your username mean, **tarpal**? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ignorant-racist-motherfuckers/142517.md?page=9)