# Ilhan Omar - A thread about her marriage and immigration history. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 20, 2019, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347 "2019-07-20T12:32:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Annoyed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@Annoyed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annoyed)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/1 "2019-07-20T12:32:51Z")
This is my first post on this forum. No, I’m not a previously banned member. No, I’m not a troll. I have been lurking this forum for a few months now after finding this place through some google searches. “The Pit” seems to be the most appropriate place to post this in, but if its not, my apologies. Now that that’s out of the way: > [@](#): > > Please read the verified evidence below — and read it alongside the three years of verified evidence published by Scott Johnson, Preya Samsundar, and myself (our work is linked here). The answers to those questions about 2009 appear to give probable cause to investigate Omar for eight instances of perjury, immigration fraud, marriage fraud, up to eight years of state and federal tax fraud, two years of federal student loan fraud, and even bigamy. > > To be clear: The facts describe perhaps the most extensive spree of illegal misconduct committed by a House member in American history. This is not getting much play in the mainstream media, but it really does seem like Omar married her brother to get him American citizenship, among other things. In my opinion, this needs to be investigated and if true, she needs to be prosecuted. [https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/07/david-steinberg-tying-up-loose-threads-in-the-curious-case.php](https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/07/david-steinberg-tying-up-loose-threads-in-the-curious-case.php) > ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/2 "2019-07-22T13:14:50Z")
> [@Annoyed](#): > > This is not getting much play in the mainstream media, but it really does seem like Omar married her brother to get him American citizenship, among other things. Too bad there isn’t an ultra-conservative, liberal hating news network that would LOVE to publish this. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/3 "2019-07-22T13:43:13Z")
For the sake of argument, I’m going to assume everything the OP’s citations say is true. Here is my response: So? I literally could not care less. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/4 "2019-07-22T13:45:09Z")
[Existing thread.](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=877625) Still listed on Page 1, friend. Take a look. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/5 "2019-07-22T13:45:58Z")
[This thread wouldn’t have sufficed for this topic?](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=877625) heh - ninja’ed by seconds ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/6 "2019-07-22T13:48:58Z")
As far as I can tell, there’s still no actual evidence (aside from a maybe-exists, maybe-it-doesn’t supposed social media post about nieces/nephews that may or may not have been made by the person in question) that she married her brother. And if I understand immigration law at the time correctly, there would have been no immigration motive – her brother would have had the same ability to immigrate as her husband. Sounds a lot like birtherism to me – bullshit evidence, tons of innuendo from internet nutbars, and (unfortunately) significant numbers of Americans who latch on because they’re eager for any reason, even bullshit ones, to cast aspersions on dark-skinned people who reach high office. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/7 "2019-07-22T14:01:10Z")
There’s a lot of evidence, including her own admission and apology, that there were some paperwork problems with her marriage, that resulted in her having to pay a fine to the IRS. Nobody disputes this. There’s no evidence at all that she married her brother. Repeating the evidence for the former over and over again does not constitute evidence of the latter. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/8 "2019-07-22T14:12:34Z")
> [@Annoyed](#): > > This is my first post on this forum. No, I’m not a previously banned member. No, I’m not a troll. I have been lurking this forum for a few months now after finding this place through some google searches. “The Pit” seems to be the most appropriate place to post this in, but if its not, my apologies. > > Now that that’s out of the way: > > This is not getting much play in the mainstream media, but it really does seem like Omar married her brother to get him American citizenship, among other things. > > In my opinion, this needs to be investigated and if true, she needs to be prosecuted. > > [https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/07/david-steinberg-tying-up-loose-threads-in-the-curious-case.php](https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/07/david-steinberg-tying-up-loose-threads-in-the-curious-case.php) > > [https://twitter.com/realDSteinberg/status/1095789152589754377](https://twitter.com/realDSteinberg/status/1095789152589754377) Why, you’re just asking questions. How very reasonable! and bullshit that you’re not a sock or a banned poster coming back. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/9 "2019-07-22T14:34:21Z")
Why would she marry her brother? Pretty sure immigration asks about siblings, and she would have been caught out… ������ ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/10 "2019-07-22T14:40:04Z")
So, **Annoyed** : [ul] [li]Join date = Oct 2017.[/li][li]Lurking for a “few months”[/li][li]First post = July 20, 2019[/li][/ul] What have you been doing the rest of the time? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/11 "2019-07-22T14:43:20Z")
> [@Annoyed](#): > > This is my first post on this forum. After registering a year and a half ago this is your first post in _any_ forum, and you use it to post already debunked right-wing glurge that is still being discussed in another thread. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/12 "2019-07-22T14:48:45Z")
Had the sense enough to put it in the Pit, that’s gotta count for something. I for one am on the edge of my seat waiting to see what else Annoyed has to say on the subject. ---
**Author:** ![Not\_Carlson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc79bd/32.png) [@Not\_Carlson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_Carlson)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/13 "2019-07-22T14:59:44Z")
> [@Annoyed](#): > > This is my first post on this forum. No, I’m not a previously banned member. No, I’m not a troll. I have been lurking this forum for a few months now after finding this place through some google searches. I guess 2 years could still be considered “a few months”. That’s some dedicated lurking. > [@](#): > > This is not getting much play in the mainstream media, but it really does seem like Omar married her brother to get him American citizenship, among other things. Some quickie questions you might want to ask yourself: 1. Considering Omar has been the focus of so much news, and the focus of so many attacks of late, why do you think this story hasn’t gained more traction in the mainstream media? Not juicy enough? Conspiratorial coverup? Disinterest in the private lives of public figures? 2. Does Omar actually have a brother named Elmi? 3. Does Elmi now have US citizenship? 4. If Elmi were her brother, wouldn’t he already be eligible for US citizenship? 5. What, if anything, do you mean by “among other things”? And If you don’t actually have anything else to suggest, why did you feel the need to vaguely imply other nefarious deeds? > **[Did U.S. Rep. Ilhan Omar Marry Her Brother?](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ilhan-omar-marry-brother/)** > > Rep. Ilhan Omar has been the subject of recurrent controversies, including ones regarding her marriages and family immigration history. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/14 "2019-07-22T15:07:37Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > What have you been doing the rest of the time? :dubious: Training apparently takes longer for some people than others. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/15 "2019-07-22T15:07:44Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > So, **Annoyed** : > [ul] > [li]Join date = Oct 2017.[/li][li]Lurking for a “few months”[/li][li]First post = July 20, 2019[/li][/ul] > > What have you been doing the rest of the time? :dubious: Shaking his head, tapping his foot, rolling his eyes and sighing theatrically. ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/16 "2019-07-22T15:08:23Z")
Annoyed is just a Russian shit-stirrer. Let’s fuck with him (if he ever comes back). ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/17 "2019-07-22T15:20:55Z")
сообщается. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/18 "2019-07-22T15:29:23Z")
Well, I’m…annoyed by his/her presence. Here’s to hoping he/she doesn’t come back. At least not today. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/19 "2019-07-22T15:34:14Z")
> [@Annoyed](#): > > This is my first post on this forum. > [@](#): > > “The Pit” seems to be the most appropriate place to post this in I think these are the only true statements from the OP. Everything else was BS, including not being a sock or troll. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/20 "2019-07-22T15:55:22Z")
Nothing speaks to one’s innocence more than beginning a convo with a list of rules one hasn’t broken. “Officer, I surely wasn’t speeding and that kicking you hear in my trunk is merely the muffler, and this is ketchup on my shirt.” [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347.md?page=2)