# Ilhan Omar - A thread about her marriage and immigration history. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 20, 2019, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347 "2019-07-20T12:32:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/201 "2019-07-30T13:54:04Z")
The new American example to the world of dignity and gravitas: A so-called president that is more motivated by partisan morning talk shows than his actual intelligence briefings. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/202 "2019-07-30T13:57:35Z")
Worse than that, a Leader of the Free World who is actually \*annoyed \*by intelligence briefings and would rather just be told how wonderful he is. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/203 "2019-07-30T14:08:05Z")
Even worse than that, a Leader of the Free World who is actually annoyed by intelligence briefings and is just told how wonderful he is. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/204 "2019-07-30T14:34:12Z")
Who finds partisan morning talk shows a prime source of motivation. 😛 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/205 "2019-07-30T14:38:44Z")
Kim Jong Eun and people who think like him. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/206 "2019-07-30T14:44:33Z")
(Oh, I didn’t mean that as a question, but as a continuation of the 2 posts before it. I should have used the elipticals …) ---
**Author:** ![CurtC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce73a5/32.png) [@CurtC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CurtC)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/207 "2019-07-30T19:18:13Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > I should have used the elipticals … You lookin’ to get in shape? ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/208 "2019-07-30T19:26:08Z")
> [@CurtC](#): > > You lookin’ to get in shape? Obviously isn’t working for Trump… …😉 ---
**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2019, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/210 "2019-08-08T08:33:15Z")
Reported ---
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2019, 8:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/211 "2019-08-08T08:57:52Z")
n/m ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/212 "2019-08-11T04:05:06Z")
For the record, current visa processing times, according to USCIS are as such: 6 Months to 8 Months - Permanent resident filing for a spouse or child under 21 9 Months to 11.5 Months - U.S. citizen filing for a spouse, parent, or child under 21 77 Months to 100 Months - U.S. citizen filing for an unmarried son or daughter over 21 75.5 Months to 98.5 Months - Permanent resident filing for an unmarried son or daughter over 21 81 Months to 105.5 Months - U.S. citizen filing for a married son or daughter over 21 [https://egov.uscis.gov/processing-times/](https://egov.uscis.gov/processing-times/) It is fair to say that there is a quantitative difference between 10ish months and 80ish months. ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2019, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/213 "2019-08-12T13:11:54Z")
For the record… Gettysburg Address - 1863 First moon landing - 1969 It is fair to say that there is a quantitative difference between 1969 and 1863. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2019, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/214 "2019-08-12T17:52:05Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > She lived with both men. There was communication between the other husband and her when she said there wasn’t. She improperly filed her tax returns. She improperly used campaign funds to correct them. > > That’s the evidence that we know. The rest can’t be found out because people refuse to talk and evidence was deleted. So if you want to believe that’s all innocent, you’re free to do so. Not sure many will take you seriously outside the bubble of this board though. I lived with my sister for years (as a kid). I talk to my sister all the time, on the phone. Doesn’t mean i married her, you dumb ass troll. I didn’t keep records. Guess that means we’re secretly married. Dumb ass. ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2019, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/215 "2019-08-12T18:26:32Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > For the record, current visa processing times, according to USCIS are as such: For the record, the “record” doesn’t need any facts other than whether or not the dude she was married to was her brother. Every other fact you dredge up is irrelevant. She says the guy wasn’t her brother, and you don’t actually have any information that he is, do you? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2019, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/216 "2019-08-12T22:29:09Z")
> [@Cheesesteak](#): > > For the record, the “record” doesn’t need any facts other than whether or not the dude she was married to was her brother. > > Every other fact you dredge up is irrelevant. She says the guy wasn’t her brother, and you don’t actually have any information that he is, do you? Of course not. He’s _Just Asking Questions_ in his very own (I guess) poisoning the well special way. Of course he believes that nonsense. That’s why he reacts so badly when it’s pointed out to him it’s bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2019, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/217 "2019-08-12T23:34:14Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Of course not. He’s _Just Asking Questions_ in his very own (I guess) poisoning the well special way. Of course he believes that nonsense. That’s why he reacts so badly when it’s pointed out to him it’s bullshit. I’m throwing out hypotheticals that are within the boundaries of the known facts across the entire spectrum from exoneration to guilt, answering questions as they are asked, and correcting anyone who feels the need to declare my intentions as something other than they are. Personally, I’m ambivalent about whether you choose to hold a particular view on Omar. But if you want to argue her innocence then argue it. Prove or disprove something. Denialism is not evidence. And if you have no interest in that, then stop harping on it and be happy knowing in your heart of hearts that I’m an evil man who makes up lies and impugns the innocent for malicious and unfounded reasons. It’s your freedom to believe what you want in your heart. But it’s also rude to go telling people what you think of them, Senor I’m-too-partisan-to-logic. If you’re not interested in taking apart the evidence and I don’t care about the topic until more better evidence turns up one way or the other, all that leaves us is the ability to call one another poopy-head and shit-cock. Presumably, you have better things to do in your life. Go. Be happy. Be free. Enjoy your correctness. But, leave me out of it or spend some time trying to prove that the social media posts are faked. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2019, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/218 "2019-08-13T01:15:21Z")
Case in point. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2019, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/219 "2019-08-13T02:10:59Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Case in point. Yeah. I don’t see any evidence of their stupid claims. Instead, they expect us to prove their stupid claims are untrue. It doesn’t work that way. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2019, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/220 "2019-08-13T03:07:30Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Yeah. I don’t see any evidence of their stupid claims. Instead, they expect us to prove their stupid claims are untrue. > > It doesn’t work that way. How’s the quote go? Something about [extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagan_standard)? ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2019, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/221 "2019-08-13T03:20:59Z")
> [@Morgyn](#): > > How’s the quote go? Something about [extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagan_standard)? I don’t know that I would classify immigration fraud as an extraordinary event. It’s not invisible pink unicorns. But certainly the evidence for anything untoward by Omar (except a tax documentation oddity) is not there at the moment. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347.md?page=12)