# Ilhan Omar - A thread about her marriage and immigration history.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 20, 2019, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347 "2019-07-20T12:32:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Northeast\_Refugee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a183cd/32.png) [@Northeast\_Refugee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northeast_Refugee)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/942 "2019-10-04T03:20:03Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> [Conjecture](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/conjecture)  
> The claim was made that she married her brother. Either the claimant has facts and evidence or they don’t. If they do, it should be provided. If they don’t, they lied.

She’s a known scam artist. When you have a well-deserved reputation as a scam artist, and you’re being accused of running another scam…Well, your reputation speaks for itself.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/943 "2019-10-04T03:29:30Z")

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> [@Northeast\_Refugee](#):
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> She’s a known scam artist. When you have a well-deserved reputation as a scam artist, and you’re being accused of running another scam…Well, your reputation speaks for itself.

Cite?

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**Author:** ![Northeast\_Refugee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a183cd/32.png) [@Northeast\_Refugee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northeast_Refugee)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/944 "2019-10-04T03:36:02Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Cite?

Cite for what? For this muslim scam artist filing illegal joint tax returns with one man, while being married to another?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/945 "2019-10-04T03:39:57Z")

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> [@Northeast\_Refugee](#):
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> Cite for what? For this muslim scam artist filing illegal joint tax returns with one man, while being married to another?

If that’s true, then whoever possesses the proof could get the IRS interested. Since the claim is that she’s a tax cheat and the IRS is not interested, then the only possible conclusion is that the accusers are liars.

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**Author:** ![Northeast\_Refugee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a183cd/32.png) [@Northeast\_Refugee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northeast_Refugee)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/946 "2019-10-04T03:41:09Z")

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This thread is 19 pages long, so apologies if this has been covered already, but what do you guys think about Ilhan paying some dude [230K](https://nypost.com/2019/08/27/my-husband-dumped-me-for-rep-ilhan-omar-dc-mom-says-in-divorce-filing/?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_medium=SocialFlow&utm_source=NYPTwitter) to fuck her?

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**Author:** ![Northeast\_Refugee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a183cd/32.png) [@Northeast\_Refugee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northeast_Refugee)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/947 "2019-10-04T03:42:16Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> If that’s true, then whoever possesses the proof could get the IRS interested. Since the claim is that she’s a tax cheat and the IRS is not interested, then the only possible conclusion is that the accusers are liars.

Well, [Minnesota Campaign Finance and Public Disclosure Board](https://www.apnews.com/b49ee5604ec2435a90945820b7c973eb) says that it’s true.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/948 "2019-10-04T03:45:39Z")

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Cites for any of it. The whole thing started with a random complaint by a known troll, and absolutely none of it has been proven. You keep fucking that chicken though.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/949 "2019-10-04T03:51:17Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> Unlikely, but I’d like to hear your reasoning.

I already explained this to you elsewhere, but for the benefit of those who didn’t read both threads:

If I get an Uber call and it is for a stripper leaving at the end of her shift and I refuse to take her home, I can get fired. But I don’t have any more information about her than anyone else who lives in the community and knows that these kinds of people work at the strip club. So if you have a strip club in your city, you are free to go and try to call the authorities or picket outside or whatever you think appropriate, without jeopardizing your employment. So you are actually _more_ responsible than I am. You have no conflicts between your work responsibilities and your whistleblowing. But of course talk is cheap, and you are the type who is all talk.

You’re also just extremely irritating in general, and yet I defend you elsewhere because I am that magnanimous a guy.

> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> Jacob Wohl is responsible for putting this ridiculous story in the public arena? Holy shit. Slacker, I did not think you were actually this stupid.

WTF are you on about now? My source was the Minneapolis Star Tribune. Try actually reading the thread before you spout your hysterical nonsense.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/950 "2019-10-04T03:54:38Z")

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> [@Northeast\_Refugee](#):
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> This thread is 19 pages long, so apologies if this has been covered already, but what do you guys think about Ilhan paying some dude [230K](https://nypost.com/2019/08/27/my-husband-dumped-me-for-rep-ilhan-omar-dc-mom-says-in-divorce-filing/?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_medium=SocialFlow&utm_source=NYPTwitter) to fuck her?

She got off cheap compared to what Trump paid Daniels?

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/951 "2019-10-04T03:56:51Z")

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[Jacob Wahl](https://www.thecut.com/2019/10/who-is-jacob-wohl-failed-smears.html), known for things like the fake Mueller sex scandal, and the fake Elizabeth Warren sex scandal.

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> The failed Ilhan Omar smear
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> In February 2019, Wohl and another far-right conspiracy theorist and fellow banned Twitter user Laura Loomer traveled to Minnesota to “prove” that Representative Ilhan Omar had married her brother in order to get him U.S. citizenship, a racist, fully-debunked attack that has long been made on the Somali-American politician. Wohl claimed he had to travel with security because of “Somali jihadists” who had threatened him, but refused to show any of these armed bodyguards on his livestream.

When Jacob Wohl is driving the story, you might want to reconsider how seriously you take it.

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**Author:** ![Northeast\_Refugee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a183cd/32.png) [@Northeast\_Refugee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northeast_Refugee)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/952 "2019-10-04T03:58:20Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> She got off cheap compared to what Trump paid Daniels?

I don’t think you got your facts right, buddy. Not only Trump fucked Daniels, she paid him [293K](https://www.npr.org/2018/12/11/675872841/stormy-daniels-ordered-to-pay-trump-293-000-in-fees-in-defamation-lawsuit) for the privilege.  
And that’s why we love our President: he bangs whores, and makes them pay him. A winner all around.  
Our muslim scam artist, on the other hand, for 230K could find someone a lot better looking than a pasty white guy.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/953 "2019-10-04T04:20:20Z")

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> [@Northeast\_Refugee](#):
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> {…} muslim tax cheat.

> [@Northeast\_Refugee](#):
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> {…} muslim scam artist {…}

> [@Northeast\_Refugee](#):
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> {…} muslim scam artist, {…}

Shoebox confirmed.

CMC fnord!

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/954 "2019-10-04T04:38:31Z")

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> [@Northeast\_Refugee](#):
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> How the heck is it “unproven”, asshole?  
> She either married her brother or she didn’t.

The assertion that she married her brother is what “unproven” refers to.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/955 "2019-10-04T13:04:58Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> If I get an Uber call and it is for a stripper leaving at the end of her shift and I refuse to take her home, I can get fired.

Oh right. I wouldn’t want you to get fired from your lucrative career as an Uber driver

:rolleyes:

I don’t go to strip clubs, I don’t drive an Uber, and I’ve never driven any Eastern European girls from a strip to a motel.

I’m not advocating for you to go to strip clubs and protest or anything like that. A simple “Hey, are you in trouble or need help?” while you are ferrying strippers is all I ask. You can’t even bother to do that.

Despicable.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/956 "2019-10-04T13:23:53Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> Oh right. I wouldn’t want you to get fired from your lucrative career as an Uber driver
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> :rolleyes:
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> I don’t go to strip clubs, I don’t drive an Uber, and I’ve never driven any Eastern European girls from a strip to a motel.
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> I’m not advocating for you to go to strip clubs and protest or anything like that. A simple “Hey, are you in trouble or need help?” while you are ferrying strippers is all I ask. You can’t even bother to do that.
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> Despicable.

I’m not quite sure of what you’re advocating here.

Are you suggesting that Uber drivers should ask EVERY stripper they pick up whether or not she’s in trouble or needs help? Because despite the fearmongering about human trafficking, the vast majority of strippers and sex workers in the United States are doing the work of their own free will.

Human trafficking is an abomination, and everything possible should be done to stop it, but over the past few years, plenty of stings and prosecutions that claim to be going after “human traffickers” end up doing little more than depriving consensual sex workers of their livelihood. That was the case with the feds’ shutting down of [Backpage.com](http://Backpage.com) and arresting its owners. That was the case with the sting in Florida that caught Patriots owner Robert Kraft. Early in the piece, the US attorneys were hyping it as a big trafficking sting, but in the end basically all they managed was some low-level prostitution charges.

Cops and agents and prosecutors love alleging or implying human trafficking in their vice stings, because it gets the public on board with their moral crusades against consensual sex work.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/957 "2019-10-04T13:48:09Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> Are you suggesting that Uber drivers should ask EVERY stripper they pick up whether or not she’s in trouble or needs help?

Of course not.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/958 "2019-10-04T13:54:08Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> Of course not.

Fair enough.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/959 "2019-10-04T22:58:49Z")

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That was some whiplash right there, because it sure seemed like that was exactly what he was advocating in the past. Even though I have explicitly stated all along that these were chatty, friendly people who did not remotely seem to be in distress in any way. Therefore this is quite the sudden shift in attitude from Manson. :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2019, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/960 "2019-10-05T01:36:16Z")

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So you’re claiming that every stripper is Eastern European, lives with a group of similar women, and always move on after a few months? 'Cause otherwise, you’re not talking about the same thing.

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**Author:** ![Not\_Carlson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc79bd/32.png) [@Not\_Carlson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_Carlson)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2019, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/961 "2019-10-05T23:51:04Z")

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> [@Northeast\_Refugee](#):
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> … one can only shake one head and laugh.

I envy you.

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